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SFC cult player Alvin Ceccoli commenting "overrated" hahahahaha.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI am really enjoying this game. Both teams are playing some very attacking cohesive football, but also showing off some fast footed skills and solid body positioning. Holman is cutting his way through multiple defenders often and neither team is scared of passing the ball into a congested area and trusting the receiver to continue the play. Positive football is a pleasure to watch. And this (for Mono) without my team even getting a sniff at the cup this year after a failure to compete from the start. Odd that Piscopo did not get a free kick as the last play of the first half - looked like Jakolis came back and took his legs out but ref just called halftime. Oh I watched the match too mate. Can't say it was particularly enjoyable (watching that abomination of a trophy presentation in an empty stadium was the icing on the farcical FA cake) but agree some of the play was fast, fluid and entertaining... Victory's Vellipulay, was a tidy little player and unlucky not to score a cracker... Agree with whoever said that taking Machash off killed the game for them... and as for the marquee striker... hahahahah couldnt hit the side of a barn... told ya :)... As for Mcarthur, they won the cup with 3 shots on goal over 4 matches.... If their keeper gets injured they are looking at relegation this year... I mean if the Aleague was a football competition that is.... poor Harry sawyer, wandering around the paddock in an empty stadium while being ignored by his so called "team mates" what have you done lad????? I thought you would have been proud of MacArthur's shots on goal effort, would have reminded you of Greece in 2004. Never mind mate, Im sure the soap dodgers will win an international trophy (or at least an international match) one day... keep believing. Believe in what ? I have no interest in international football, as everyone on this board knows. Are you still believing, that your small club will become relevant, one day again ?
You don’t like facts that go against your little agendas, do you ? Interested enough in international football to know how many shots on target Greece had in an international tournament though? hahahah your such a fraud. Any clown with an inch of knowledge of football, would have known that. And it was twenty years ago, when I used to watch international tournaments. Fraud ? You don’t do irony much, do you ? It is certainly the very definition of irony that "any clown with an inch of knowledge of football" used to watch international tournaments 20 years ago, I agree. Change the story, good deflective tactics, when you have no mature answer.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xI am really enjoying this game. Both teams are playing some very attacking cohesive football, but also showing off some fast footed skills and solid body positioning. Holman is cutting his way through multiple defenders often and neither team is scared of passing the ball into a congested area and trusting the receiver to continue the play. Positive football is a pleasure to watch. And this (for Mono) without my team even getting a sniff at the cup this year after a failure to compete from the start. Odd that Piscopo did not get a free kick as the last play of the first half - looked like Jakolis came back and took his legs out but ref just called halftime. Oh I watched the match too mate. Can't say it was particularly enjoyable (watching that abomination of a trophy presentation in an empty stadium was the icing on the farcical FA cake) but agree some of the play was fast, fluid and entertaining... Victory's Vellipulay, was a tidy little player and unlucky not to score a cracker... Agree with whoever said that taking Machash off killed the game for them... and as for the marquee striker... hahahahah couldnt hit the side of a barn... told ya :)... As for Mcarthur, they won the cup with 3 shots on goal over 4 matches.... If their keeper gets injured they are looking at relegation this year... I mean if the Aleague was a football competition that is.... poor Harry sawyer, wandering around the paddock in an empty stadium while being ignored by his so called "team mates" what have you done lad????? I thought you would have been proud of MacArthur's shots on goal effort, would have reminded you of Greece in 2004. Never mind mate, Im sure the soap dodgers will win an international trophy (or at least an international match) one day... keep believing. Believe in what ? I have no interest in international football, as everyone on this board knows. Are you still believing, that your small club will become relevant, one day again ?
You don’t like facts that go against your little agendas, do you ? Relevancy? Who's club legend (player AND manager) is at a top 6 club in the best league in the world? The most popular league in the world. Remember he finished a massive 25 points behind Citeh.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI am really enjoying this game. Both teams are playing some very attacking cohesive football, but also showing off some fast footed skills and solid body positioning. Holman is cutting his way through multiple defenders often and neither team is scared of passing the ball into a congested area and trusting the receiver to continue the play. Positive football is a pleasure to watch. And this (for Mono) without my team even getting a sniff at the cup this year after a failure to compete from the start. Odd that Piscopo did not get a free kick as the last play of the first half - looked like Jakolis came back and took his legs out but ref just called halftime. Oh I watched the match too mate. Can't say it was particularly enjoyable (watching that abomination of a trophy presentation in an empty stadium was the icing on the farcical FA cake) but agree some of the play was fast, fluid and entertaining... Victory's Vellipulay, was a tidy little player and unlucky not to score a cracker... Agree with whoever said that taking Machash off killed the game for them... and as for the marquee striker... hahahahah couldnt hit the side of a barn... told ya :)... As for Mcarthur, they won the cup with 3 shots on goal over 4 matches.... If their keeper gets injured they are looking at relegation this year... I mean if the Aleague was a football competition that is.... poor Harry sawyer, wandering around the paddock in an empty stadium while being ignored by his so called "team mates" what have you done lad????? I thought you would have been proud of MacArthur's shots on goal effort, would have reminded you of Greece in 2004. Never mind mate, Im sure the soap dodgers will win an international trophy (or at least an international match) one day... keep believing. Believe in what ? I have no interest in international football, as everyone on this board knows. Are you still believing, that your small club will become relevant, one day again ?
You don’t like facts that go against your little agendas, do you ? Relevancy? Who's club legend (player AND manager) is at a top 6 club in the best league in the world? The most popular league in the world. Remember he finished a massive 25 points behind Citeh. Who cares? Spurs are playing in Europe.
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Christ almighty having a dig 25points behind citeh. There have been well renowned coach’s before him finish not much better their reign last 4yrs - not bad what he inherited and just ripped the so called biggest club the other day. Not bad for the ethnic Aussie imo. Point is no other Aussie coach been where he is now yes the biggest league in the world.
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+xDoes anyone rate Brattan? Not super familiar with his career. You don't watch football in this country.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThere is a numptie over at "the roar": who claims the Bulls will be getting 5 thousand fans through the gates this season (amongst other outlandish jibes at the "effniks") so Sunday should see at least 1/4 of these rusted ons come down for the final... surely? Another contributor interestingly claims South Melbourne has been given massive government grants otherwise they would be in the state league and "smaller" than other Greek Australian clubs around the country?!?!!? Hahahaha my word, the hatred runs sooooo deeeeep its complimentary. Tis madness to attract your own sport.The theme of all boats rise on an incoming tide seems lost on many as you say tribal folk. If I may indulge your time a little I went to watch a couple of weeks back a U 14 match between Apia n Gladesville Spirit. What I saw was decent folk there with their kids plus an awful lot of football knowledge. Last week went with a mate to watch the Mariners academy U14 play. Guess what I saw a lot of decent folk who had great knowledge of football. I think some people forget we are made up of mostly ordinary people just trying to do the right thing. I am so so so over the infighting and dick measuring. Sure mate, its terrible what people like your buddy over at the roar does in the name of defending the APL... Some things will never change unless we discuss the "wrongs" in this system though. I am not surprised one little tiny bit that you had a similar experience with like minded football people at APIA, Gladesville AND Mariners U14 game.... Of course you did, these clubs wouldnt exist if people diodnt adore this sport...... only difference is that the APIA and Gladesville folk will NEVER be allowed to cheer their senior team against Mariners in a league setup ..... why? THATS the question. Is there anything wrong with them or their clubs? Are they bad people? Are their kids and families not the same as any other Australian? I think we both want the same thing and that is a full FIFA system... we differ in how to get there.... my path is more build a successful league and increase Football to the point a FIFA system can be introduced ... your path as I understand it is to jump to a FIFA system now .... I suggest our differences are where we see Football in the Australian sporting environment .... at present I don't think the Australian public at large """respect """ Australian Football enough to support at a meaningful level a full FIFA model.... meaning we have to build that respect and I see that coming from a meaning first division.... I guess you see it differently and I respect your views... However that we both want a full FIFA model is not in question simply the best way to get there is the debate.. The A-League has had 20 years do create a 'respectable' league and it shoots itself in the foot every 5 years or so. The fans are there, the interest is there I think you would be surprised how many people of a certain generation follow (in the loosest terms) soccer than dare I say it ... AFL..., Members of the Australian public who are probably willing to go to a first division Australian soccer game (who don't already go) don't respect the A-League because theres no pro/rel and they don't care for expansion teams. I hear you, and yep the A_l has had 20 years... but we also had 70 + years before the A-L.... Without writing a book on the why's and where's... Australian professional Football has never had the respect it needs to create a fan base that would support a proper first division and divisions below at a high level of quality .... Until we learn to respect the quality of our players and coaches, respect the game as a whole we will struggle.... Your point on how poor our management has been is very true.... its hurt a lot... Thats the question atm ... How do we get people to 'respect' Australian Football? Do we get respect and then change the system or change the system and then gain respect. Yep IMO you need strong financial systems in place to ensure you can get a higher quality of players.... and in the eyes of the broader mainstream its a solid and reliable competition... Changing the system, sounds the right way to go...my personal thoughts are Football would struggle to gain respect of the broader public and the Euro snobs would feel its befilth them to even talk about.... I often refer to the MLS and look at what and how they have achieved what they have from a starting point well well well behind where the A-L started and the NSL for that matter... they believe they need to build a fan base and so far they have and they receive less than 10% of their revenue from broadcast mostly from crowds, sponsors and merchandise sales. The A_l needs to build its crowds IMO to an average of 15K, with say Div 2 teams an average of around 5K.... then we have a foundation to build P & R... put in a plan to get there with measurable KPI's.... I believe if you told the good folk of SM, and similar clubs, you guys average 5 to 6K per game over a season with you guys helping the A-L get to 15K per season and we have the base to move to P & R... those Div 2 clubs would help build the A-L as it would be in their interest... IMO the secret is putting in place a model where its in everybody's interest for everyone to grow and get better.. Sorry Mid I dont follow, are you saying that crowds need to increase BEFORE clubs are able to get promoted? How? Playing in the same old stale league they are now? Its not working at the moment, what do you think will change if the "carrot" of maybe/possibly/one day promotion was on the table? How are Auckland, and WU and Macarthur , allowed to have a direct place in the Alegaue with NO HISTORY of a paying crowd coming to their matchs beforehand? The "eurosnobs" arent going to watch them, the existing local football fans arent paying to watch them and "mainstream Australia" doesn't even know they exist..... Before the NSL we had 4-5 very very strong state league comps and yes a national competition was perhaps rushed and unprofessional.... but 27 years of the "effnik" disaster and 20 years of the "franchise disaster" and NOTHING has really changed.... surely its time to try plan B? Mid believes the MLS methods that for one we have no chance doing with pittance compared to billions for starters. Next their model is make believe in the big picture like the most of their sports they had no choice but to follow Franchise paths. We started by UK settlers/convicts followed by euro migrants by the plenty. We/they come from lands with P/R hence this current systems dilemma and barrier appeasing to the many beneath who dont want to grasp APL. Not All eurosnobs are totally closed about local football, countless of them are involved in grass roots and NPL lands. IF there ever was a NST some would gain interest. A football league doesn’t start from having the top all primed up and go from there for many have No connect. It won’t filter down no matter the bells and whistles working on fans to get to a game.
Maybe some like in the past but it won’t last again till there is local roots input and chance to go up and go down.
The emotional feel counts hence we are nothing like USA.
USA buys into everything to get a ROI - they are only worried about the buck !
Oh the final - lost interest once no NPL in it I lost interest when Manly Vale got knocked out in the early rounds. Then was interested with SFC, lost interest when they got knocked out. Just watched the final.
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+x+xDoes anyone rate Brattan? Not super familiar with his career. You don't watch football in this country. Get fucked. I've been consistently going to most smfc games for the past decade, and they play in what country?
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+x+x+xDoes anyone rate Brattan? Not super familiar with his career. You don't watch football in this country. Get fucked. I've been consistently going to most smfc games for the past decade, and they play in what country? He meant, top level football, not the minor version.
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+x+x+x+xDoes anyone rate Brattan? Not super familiar with his career. You don't watch football in this country. Get fucked. I've been consistently going to most smfc games for the past decade, and they play in what country? He meant, top level football, not the minor version. Then why didn't he say it?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI am really enjoying this game. Both teams are playing some very attacking cohesive football, but also showing off some fast footed skills and solid body positioning. Holman is cutting his way through multiple defenders often and neither team is scared of passing the ball into a congested area and trusting the receiver to continue the play. Positive football is a pleasure to watch. And this (for Mono) without my team even getting a sniff at the cup this year after a failure to compete from the start. Odd that Piscopo did not get a free kick as the last play of the first half - looked like Jakolis came back and took his legs out but ref just called halftime. Oh I watched the match too mate. Can't say it was particularly enjoyable (watching that abomination of a trophy presentation in an empty stadium was the icing on the farcical FA cake) but agree some of the play was fast, fluid and entertaining... Victory's Vellipulay, was a tidy little player and unlucky not to score a cracker... Agree with whoever said that taking Machash off killed the game for them... and as for the marquee striker... hahahahah couldnt hit the side of a barn... told ya :)... As for Mcarthur, they won the cup with 3 shots on goal over 4 matches.... If their keeper gets injured they are looking at relegation this year... I mean if the Aleague was a football competition that is.... poor Harry sawyer, wandering around the paddock in an empty stadium while being ignored by his so called "team mates" what have you done lad????? I thought you would have been proud of MacArthur's shots on goal effort, would have reminded you of Greece in 2004. Never mind mate, Im sure the soap dodgers will win an international trophy (or at least an international match) one day... keep believing. Believe in what ? I have no interest in international football, as everyone on this board knows. Are you still believing, that your small club will become relevant, one day again ?
You don’t like facts that go against your little agendas, do you ? Interested enough in international football to know how many shots on target Greece had in an international tournament though? hahahah your such a fraud. Any clown with an inch of knowledge of football, would have known that. And it was twenty years ago, when I used to watch international tournaments. Fraud ? You don’t do irony much, do you ? It is certainly the very definition of irony that "any clown with an inch of knowledge of football" used to watch international tournaments 20 years ago, I agree. Change the story, good deflective tactics, when you have no mature answer. Im rubber and you're glue boomer :P
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+x+x+x+xDoes anyone rate Brattan? Not super familiar with his career. You don't watch football in this country. Get fucked. I've been consistently going to most smfc games for the past decade, and they play in what country? He meant, top level football, not the minor version. minor version? HAHAHAHA thats a really sharp one ....
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+x+x+xDoes anyone rate Brattan? Not super familiar with his career. You don't watch football in this country. Get fucked. I've been consistently going to most smfc games for the past decade, and they play in what country? Albert Park is a town in Greece according to some of our more white supremacist inclined fellow football fans ...
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+x+x+x+x+xDoes anyone rate Brattan? Not super familiar with his career. You don't watch football in this country. Get fucked. I've been consistently going to most smfc games for the past decade, and they play in what country? He meant, top level football, not the minor version. Then why didn't he say it? My apologies, I don't follow any teams in the EPL, but I know all the best players.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xDoes anyone rate Brattan? Not super familiar with his career. You don't watch football in this country. Get fucked. I've been consistently going to most smfc games for the past decade, and they play in what country? He meant, top level football, not the minor version. Then why didn't he say it? My apologies, I don't follow any teams in the EPL, but I know all the best players. Ur actually so dense
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThere is a numptie over at "the roar": who claims the Bulls will be getting 5 thousand fans through the gates this season (amongst other outlandish jibes at the "effniks") so Sunday should see at least 1/4 of these rusted ons come down for the final... surely? Another contributor interestingly claims South Melbourne has been given massive government grants otherwise they would be in the state league and "smaller" than other Greek Australian clubs around the country?!?!!? Hahahaha my word, the hatred runs sooooo deeeeep its complimentary. Tis madness to attract your own sport.The theme of all boats rise on an incoming tide seems lost on many as you say tribal folk. If I may indulge your time a little I went to watch a couple of weeks back a U 14 match between Apia n Gladesville Spirit. What I saw was decent folk there with their kids plus an awful lot of football knowledge. Last week went with a mate to watch the Mariners academy U14 play. Guess what I saw a lot of decent folk who had great knowledge of football. I think some people forget we are made up of mostly ordinary people just trying to do the right thing. I am so so so over the infighting and dick measuring. Sure mate, its terrible what people like your buddy over at the roar does in the name of defending the APL... Some things will never change unless we discuss the "wrongs" in this system though. I am not surprised one little tiny bit that you had a similar experience with like minded football people at APIA, Gladesville AND Mariners U14 game.... Of course you did, these clubs wouldnt exist if people diodnt adore this sport...... only difference is that the APIA and Gladesville folk will NEVER be allowed to cheer their senior team against Mariners in a league setup ..... why? THATS the question. Is there anything wrong with them or their clubs? Are they bad people? Are their kids and families not the same as any other Australian? I think we both want the same thing and that is a full FIFA system... we differ in how to get there.... my path is more build a successful league and increase Football to the point a FIFA system can be introduced ... your path as I understand it is to jump to a FIFA system now .... I suggest our differences are where we see Football in the Australian sporting environment .... at present I don't think the Australian public at large """respect """ Australian Football enough to support at a meaningful level a full FIFA model.... meaning we have to build that respect and I see that coming from a meaning first division.... I guess you see it differently and I respect your views... However that we both want a full FIFA model is not in question simply the best way to get there is the debate.. The A-League has had 20 years do create a 'respectable' league and it shoots itself in the foot every 5 years or so. The fans are there, the interest is there I think you would be surprised how many people of a certain generation follow (in the loosest terms) soccer than dare I say it ... AFL..., Members of the Australian public who are probably willing to go to a first division Australian soccer game (who don't already go) don't respect the A-League because theres no pro/rel and they don't care for expansion teams. I hear you, and yep the A_l has had 20 years... but we also had 70 + years before the A-L.... Without writing a book on the why's and where's... Australian professional Football has never had the respect it needs to create a fan base that would support a proper first division and divisions below at a high level of quality .... Until we learn to respect the quality of our players and coaches, respect the game as a whole we will struggle.... Your point on how poor our management has been is very true.... its hurt a lot... Thats the question atm ... How do we get people to 'respect' Australian Football? Do we get respect and then change the system or change the system and then gain respect. Yep IMO you need strong financial systems in place to ensure you can get a higher quality of players.... and in the eyes of the broader mainstream its a solid and reliable competition... Changing the system, sounds the right way to go...my personal thoughts are Football would struggle to gain respect of the broader public and the Euro snobs would feel its befilth them to even talk about.... I often refer to the MLS and look at what and how they have achieved what they have from a starting point well well well behind where the A-L started and the NSL for that matter... they believe they need to build a fan base and so far they have and they receive less than 10% of their revenue from broadcast mostly from crowds, sponsors and merchandise sales. The A_l needs to build its crowds IMO to an average of 15K, with say Div 2 teams an average of around 5K.... then we have a foundation to build P & R... put in a plan to get there with measurable KPI's.... I believe if you told the good folk of SM, and similar clubs, you guys average 5 to 6K per game over a season with you guys helping the A-L get to 15K per season and we have the base to move to P & R... those Div 2 clubs would help build the A-L as it would be in their interest... IMO the secret is putting in place a model where its in everybody's interest for everyone to grow and get better.. Sorry Mid I dont follow, are you saying that crowds need to increase BEFORE clubs are able to get promoted? How? Playing in the same old stale league they are now? Its not working at the moment, what do you think will change if the "carrot" of maybe/possibly/one day promotion was on the table? How are Auckland, and WU and Macarthur , allowed to have a direct place in the Alegaue with NO HISTORY of a paying crowd coming to their matchs beforehand? The "eurosnobs" arent going to watch them, the existing local football fans arent paying to watch them and "mainstream Australia" doesn't even know they exist..... Before the NSL we had 4-5 very very strong state league comps and yes a national competition was perhaps rushed and unprofessional.... but 27 years of the "effnik" disaster and 20 years of the "franchise disaster" and NOTHING has really changed.... surely its time to try plan B? Mid believes the MLS methods that for one we have no chance doing with pittance compared to billions for starters. Next their model is make believe in the big picture like the most of their sports they had no choice but to follow Franchise paths. We started by UK settlers/convicts followed by euro migrants by the plenty. We/they come from lands with P/R hence this current systems dilemma and barrier appeasing to the many beneath who dont want to grasp APL. Not All eurosnobs are totally closed about local football, countless of them are involved in grass roots and NPL lands. IF there ever was a NST some would gain interest. A football league doesn’t start from having the top all primed up and go from there for many have No connect. It won’t filter down no matter the bells and whistles working on fans to get to a game.
Maybe some like in the past but it won’t last again till there is local roots input and chance to go up and go down.
The emotional feel counts hence we are nothing like USA.
USA buys into everything to get a ROI - they are only worried about the buck !
Oh the final - lost interest once no NPL in it I lost interest when Manly Vale got knocked out in the early rounds. Then was interested with SFC, lost interest when they got knocked out. Just watched the final. Haha I’d luv one of our local association clubs go a bit deeper one day but huge challenge let alone the NPL’s. Manly vale - did you ever frequent Bryant’s ?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThere is a numptie over at "the roar": who claims the Bulls will be getting 5 thousand fans through the gates this season (amongst other outlandish jibes at the "effniks") so Sunday should see at least 1/4 of these rusted ons come down for the final... surely? Another contributor interestingly claims South Melbourne has been given massive government grants otherwise they would be in the state league and "smaller" than other Greek Australian clubs around the country?!?!!? Hahahaha my word, the hatred runs sooooo deeeeep its complimentary. Tis madness to attract your own sport.The theme of all boats rise on an incoming tide seems lost on many as you say tribal folk. If I may indulge your time a little I went to watch a couple of weeks back a U 14 match between Apia n Gladesville Spirit. What I saw was decent folk there with their kids plus an awful lot of football knowledge. Last week went with a mate to watch the Mariners academy U14 play. Guess what I saw a lot of decent folk who had great knowledge of football. I think some people forget we are made up of mostly ordinary people just trying to do the right thing. I am so so so over the infighting and dick measuring. Sure mate, its terrible what people like your buddy over at the roar does in the name of defending the APL... Some things will never change unless we discuss the "wrongs" in this system though. I am not surprised one little tiny bit that you had a similar experience with like minded football people at APIA, Gladesville AND Mariners U14 game.... Of course you did, these clubs wouldnt exist if people diodnt adore this sport...... only difference is that the APIA and Gladesville folk will NEVER be allowed to cheer their senior team against Mariners in a league setup ..... why? THATS the question. Is there anything wrong with them or their clubs? Are they bad people? Are their kids and families not the same as any other Australian? I think we both want the same thing and that is a full FIFA system... we differ in how to get there.... my path is more build a successful league and increase Football to the point a FIFA system can be introduced ... your path as I understand it is to jump to a FIFA system now .... I suggest our differences are where we see Football in the Australian sporting environment .... at present I don't think the Australian public at large """respect """ Australian Football enough to support at a meaningful level a full FIFA model.... meaning we have to build that respect and I see that coming from a meaning first division.... I guess you see it differently and I respect your views... However that we both want a full FIFA model is not in question simply the best way to get there is the debate.. The A-League has had 20 years do create a 'respectable' league and it shoots itself in the foot every 5 years or so. The fans are there, the interest is there I think you would be surprised how many people of a certain generation follow (in the loosest terms) soccer than dare I say it ... AFL..., Members of the Australian public who are probably willing to go to a first division Australian soccer game (who don't already go) don't respect the A-League because theres no pro/rel and they don't care for expansion teams. I hear you, and yep the A_l has had 20 years... but we also had 70 + years before the A-L.... Without writing a book on the why's and where's... Australian professional Football has never had the respect it needs to create a fan base that would support a proper first division and divisions below at a high level of quality .... Until we learn to respect the quality of our players and coaches, respect the game as a whole we will struggle.... Your point on how poor our management has been is very true.... its hurt a lot... Thats the question atm ... How do we get people to 'respect' Australian Football? Do we get respect and then change the system or change the system and then gain respect. Yep IMO you need strong financial systems in place to ensure you can get a higher quality of players.... and in the eyes of the broader mainstream its a solid and reliable competition... Changing the system, sounds the right way to go...my personal thoughts are Football would struggle to gain respect of the broader public and the Euro snobs would feel its befilth them to even talk about.... I often refer to the MLS and look at what and how they have achieved what they have from a starting point well well well behind where the A-L started and the NSL for that matter... they believe they need to build a fan base and so far they have and they receive less than 10% of their revenue from broadcast mostly from crowds, sponsors and merchandise sales. The A_l needs to build its crowds IMO to an average of 15K, with say Div 2 teams an average of around 5K.... then we have a foundation to build P & R... put in a plan to get there with measurable KPI's.... I believe if you told the good folk of SM, and similar clubs, you guys average 5 to 6K per game over a season with you guys helping the A-L get to 15K per season and we have the base to move to P & R... those Div 2 clubs would help build the A-L as it would be in their interest... IMO the secret is putting in place a model where its in everybody's interest for everyone to grow and get better.. Sorry Mid I dont follow, are you saying that crowds need to increase BEFORE clubs are able to get promoted? How? Playing in the same old stale league they are now? Its not working at the moment, what do you think will change if the "carrot" of maybe/possibly/one day promotion was on the table? How are Auckland, and WU and Macarthur , allowed to have a direct place in the Alegaue with NO HISTORY of a paying crowd coming to their matchs beforehand? The "eurosnobs" arent going to watch them, the existing local football fans arent paying to watch them and "mainstream Australia" doesn't even know they exist..... Before the NSL we had 4-5 very very strong state league comps and yes a national competition was perhaps rushed and unprofessional.... but 27 years of the "effnik" disaster and 20 years of the "franchise disaster" and NOTHING has really changed.... surely its time to try plan B? Mid believes the MLS methods that for one we have no chance doing with pittance compared to billions for starters. Next their model is make believe in the big picture like the most of their sports they had no choice but to follow Franchise paths. We started by UK settlers/convicts followed by euro migrants by the plenty. We/they come from lands with P/R hence this current systems dilemma and barrier appeasing to the many beneath who dont want to grasp APL. Not All eurosnobs are totally closed about local football, countless of them are involved in grass roots and NPL lands. IF there ever was a NST some would gain interest. A football league doesn’t start from having the top all primed up and go from there for many have No connect. It won’t filter down no matter the bells and whistles working on fans to get to a game.
Maybe some like in the past but it won’t last again till there is local roots input and chance to go up and go down.
The emotional feel counts hence we are nothing like USA.
USA buys into everything to get a ROI - they are only worried about the buck !
Oh the final - lost interest once no NPL in it I lost interest when Manly Vale got knocked out in the early rounds. Then was interested with SFC, lost interest when they got knocked out. Just watched the final. Haha I’d luv one of our local association clubs go a bit deeper one day but huge challenge let alone the NPL’s. Manly vale - did you ever frequent Bryant’s ? It might happen, do we know if the state league teams are subject to the new npl youth requirements?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xDoes anyone rate Brattan? Not super familiar with his career. You don't watch football in this country. Get fucked. I've been consistently going to most smfc games for the past decade, and they play in what country? He meant, top level football, not the minor version. Then why didn't he say it? My apologies, I don't follow any teams in the EPL, but I know all the best players. Ur actually so dense First you tell me to get fucked, now you calling me dense, charming bloke!!! I hope you don't have children.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThere is a numptie over at "the roar": who claims the Bulls will be getting 5 thousand fans through the gates this season (amongst other outlandish jibes at the "effniks") so Sunday should see at least 1/4 of these rusted ons come down for the final... surely? Another contributor interestingly claims South Melbourne has been given massive government grants otherwise they would be in the state league and "smaller" than other Greek Australian clubs around the country?!?!!? Hahahaha my word, the hatred runs sooooo deeeeep its complimentary. Tis madness to attract your own sport.The theme of all boats rise on an incoming tide seems lost on many as you say tribal folk. If I may indulge your time a little I went to watch a couple of weeks back a U 14 match between Apia n Gladesville Spirit. What I saw was decent folk there with their kids plus an awful lot of football knowledge. Last week went with a mate to watch the Mariners academy U14 play. Guess what I saw a lot of decent folk who had great knowledge of football. I think some people forget we are made up of mostly ordinary people just trying to do the right thing. I am so so so over the infighting and dick measuring. Sure mate, its terrible what people like your buddy over at the roar does in the name of defending the APL... Some things will never change unless we discuss the "wrongs" in this system though. I am not surprised one little tiny bit that you had a similar experience with like minded football people at APIA, Gladesville AND Mariners U14 game.... Of course you did, these clubs wouldnt exist if people diodnt adore this sport...... only difference is that the APIA and Gladesville folk will NEVER be allowed to cheer their senior team against Mariners in a league setup ..... why? THATS the question. Is there anything wrong with them or their clubs? Are they bad people? Are their kids and families not the same as any other Australian? I think we both want the same thing and that is a full FIFA system... we differ in how to get there.... my path is more build a successful league and increase Football to the point a FIFA system can be introduced ... your path as I understand it is to jump to a FIFA system now .... I suggest our differences are where we see Football in the Australian sporting environment .... at present I don't think the Australian public at large """respect """ Australian Football enough to support at a meaningful level a full FIFA model.... meaning we have to build that respect and I see that coming from a meaning first division.... I guess you see it differently and I respect your views... However that we both want a full FIFA model is not in question simply the best way to get there is the debate.. The A-League has had 20 years do create a 'respectable' league and it shoots itself in the foot every 5 years or so. The fans are there, the interest is there I think you would be surprised how many people of a certain generation follow (in the loosest terms) soccer than dare I say it ... AFL..., Members of the Australian public who are probably willing to go to a first division Australian soccer game (who don't already go) don't respect the A-League because theres no pro/rel and they don't care for expansion teams. I hear you, and yep the A_l has had 20 years... but we also had 70 + years before the A-L.... Without writing a book on the why's and where's... Australian professional Football has never had the respect it needs to create a fan base that would support a proper first division and divisions below at a high level of quality .... Until we learn to respect the quality of our players and coaches, respect the game as a whole we will struggle.... Your point on how poor our management has been is very true.... its hurt a lot... Thats the question atm ... How do we get people to 'respect' Australian Football? Do we get respect and then change the system or change the system and then gain respect. Yep IMO you need strong financial systems in place to ensure you can get a higher quality of players.... and in the eyes of the broader mainstream its a solid and reliable competition... Changing the system, sounds the right way to go...my personal thoughts are Football would struggle to gain respect of the broader public and the Euro snobs would feel its befilth them to even talk about.... I often refer to the MLS and look at what and how they have achieved what they have from a starting point well well well behind where the A-L started and the NSL for that matter... they believe they need to build a fan base and so far they have and they receive less than 10% of their revenue from broadcast mostly from crowds, sponsors and merchandise sales. The A_l needs to build its crowds IMO to an average of 15K, with say Div 2 teams an average of around 5K.... then we have a foundation to build P & R... put in a plan to get there with measurable KPI's.... I believe if you told the good folk of SM, and similar clubs, you guys average 5 to 6K per game over a season with you guys helping the A-L get to 15K per season and we have the base to move to P & R... those Div 2 clubs would help build the A-L as it would be in their interest... IMO the secret is putting in place a model where its in everybody's interest for everyone to grow and get better.. Sorry Mid I dont follow, are you saying that crowds need to increase BEFORE clubs are able to get promoted? How? Playing in the same old stale league they are now? Its not working at the moment, what do you think will change if the "carrot" of maybe/possibly/one day promotion was on the table? How are Auckland, and WU and Macarthur , allowed to have a direct place in the Alegaue with NO HISTORY of a paying crowd coming to their matchs beforehand? The "eurosnobs" arent going to watch them, the existing local football fans arent paying to watch them and "mainstream Australia" doesn't even know they exist..... Before the NSL we had 4-5 very very strong state league comps and yes a national competition was perhaps rushed and unprofessional.... but 27 years of the "effnik" disaster and 20 years of the "franchise disaster" and NOTHING has really changed.... surely its time to try plan B? Mid believes the MLS methods that for one we have no chance doing with pittance compared to billions for starters. Next their model is make believe in the big picture like the most of their sports they had no choice but to follow Franchise paths. We started by UK settlers/convicts followed by euro migrants by the plenty. We/they come from lands with P/R hence this current systems dilemma and barrier appeasing to the many beneath who dont want to grasp APL. Not All eurosnobs are totally closed about local football, countless of them are involved in grass roots and NPL lands. IF there ever was a NST some would gain interest. A football league doesn’t start from having the top all primed up and go from there for many have No connect. It won’t filter down no matter the bells and whistles working on fans to get to a game.
Maybe some like in the past but it won’t last again till there is local roots input and chance to go up and go down.
The emotional feel counts hence we are nothing like USA.
USA buys into everything to get a ROI - they are only worried about the buck !
Oh the final - lost interest once no NPL in it I lost interest when Manly Vale got knocked out in the early rounds. Then was interested with SFC, lost interest when they got knocked out. Just watched the final. Haha I’d luv one of our local association clubs go a bit deeper one day but huge challenge let alone the NPL’s. Manly vale - did you ever frequent Bryant’s ? Did I ever frequent Bryants, yes it was walking distance to where I used to live, now a big housing estate. :(Prior to internet this was the go to pub to find out all the local scores every sat arvo. I saw a lot big bands in my young days there.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xDoes anyone rate Brattan? Not super familiar with his career. You don't watch football in this country. Get fucked. I've been consistently going to most smfc games for the past decade, and they play in what country? He meant, top level football, not the minor version. Then why didn't he say it? My apologies, I don't follow any teams in the EPL, but I know all the best players. Ur actually so dense First you tell me to get fucked, now you calling me dense, charming bloke!!! I hope you don't have children. HAHA fair enough, why not? Because they won't put up with bs from ppl like you?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xDoes anyone rate Brattan? Not super familiar with his career. You don't watch football in this country. Get fucked. I've been consistently going to most smfc games for the past decade, and they play in what country? He meant, top level football, not the minor version. Then why didn't he say it? My apologies, I don't follow any teams in the EPL, but I know all the best players. Ur actually so dense First you tell me to get fucked, now you calling me dense, charming bloke!!! I hope you don't have children. HAHA fair enough, why not? Because they won't put up with bs from ppl like you? Oi - no need to behave like this, robbos is cool relax
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThere is a numptie over at "the roar": who claims the Bulls will be getting 5 thousand fans through the gates this season (amongst other outlandish jibes at the "effniks") so Sunday should see at least 1/4 of these rusted ons come down for the final... surely? Another contributor interestingly claims South Melbourne has been given massive government grants otherwise they would be in the state league and "smaller" than other Greek Australian clubs around the country?!?!!? Hahahaha my word, the hatred runs sooooo deeeeep its complimentary. Tis madness to attract your own sport.The theme of all boats rise on an incoming tide seems lost on many as you say tribal folk. If I may indulge your time a little I went to watch a couple of weeks back a U 14 match between Apia n Gladesville Spirit. What I saw was decent folk there with their kids plus an awful lot of football knowledge. Last week went with a mate to watch the Mariners academy U14 play. Guess what I saw a lot of decent folk who had great knowledge of football. I think some people forget we are made up of mostly ordinary people just trying to do the right thing. I am so so so over the infighting and dick measuring. Sure mate, its terrible what people like your buddy over at the roar does in the name of defending the APL... Some things will never change unless we discuss the "wrongs" in this system though. I am not surprised one little tiny bit that you had a similar experience with like minded football people at APIA, Gladesville AND Mariners U14 game.... Of course you did, these clubs wouldnt exist if people diodnt adore this sport...... only difference is that the APIA and Gladesville folk will NEVER be allowed to cheer their senior team against Mariners in a league setup ..... why? THATS the question. Is there anything wrong with them or their clubs? Are they bad people? Are their kids and families not the same as any other Australian? I think we both want the same thing and that is a full FIFA system... we differ in how to get there.... my path is more build a successful league and increase Football to the point a FIFA system can be introduced ... your path as I understand it is to jump to a FIFA system now .... I suggest our differences are where we see Football in the Australian sporting environment .... at present I don't think the Australian public at large """respect """ Australian Football enough to support at a meaningful level a full FIFA model.... meaning we have to build that respect and I see that coming from a meaning first division.... I guess you see it differently and I respect your views... However that we both want a full FIFA model is not in question simply the best way to get there is the debate.. The A-League has had 20 years do create a 'respectable' league and it shoots itself in the foot every 5 years or so. The fans are there, the interest is there I think you would be surprised how many people of a certain generation follow (in the loosest terms) soccer than dare I say it ... AFL..., Members of the Australian public who are probably willing to go to a first division Australian soccer game (who don't already go) don't respect the A-League because theres no pro/rel and they don't care for expansion teams. I hear you, and yep the A_l has had 20 years... but we also had 70 + years before the A-L.... Without writing a book on the why's and where's... Australian professional Football has never had the respect it needs to create a fan base that would support a proper first division and divisions below at a high level of quality .... Until we learn to respect the quality of our players and coaches, respect the game as a whole we will struggle.... Your point on how poor our management has been is very true.... its hurt a lot... Thats the question atm ... How do we get people to 'respect' Australian Football? Do we get respect and then change the system or change the system and then gain respect. Yep IMO you need strong financial systems in place to ensure you can get a higher quality of players.... and in the eyes of the broader mainstream its a solid and reliable competition... Changing the system, sounds the right way to go...my personal thoughts are Football would struggle to gain respect of the broader public and the Euro snobs would feel its befilth them to even talk about.... I often refer to the MLS and look at what and how they have achieved what they have from a starting point well well well behind where the A-L started and the NSL for that matter... they believe they need to build a fan base and so far they have and they receive less than 10% of their revenue from broadcast mostly from crowds, sponsors and merchandise sales. The A_l needs to build its crowds IMO to an average of 15K, with say Div 2 teams an average of around 5K.... then we have a foundation to build P & R... put in a plan to get there with measurable KPI's.... I believe if you told the good folk of SM, and similar clubs, you guys average 5 to 6K per game over a season with you guys helping the A-L get to 15K per season and we have the base to move to P & R... those Div 2 clubs would help build the A-L as it would be in their interest... IMO the secret is putting in place a model where its in everybody's interest for everyone to grow and get better.. Sorry Mid I dont follow, are you saying that crowds need to increase BEFORE clubs are able to get promoted? How? Playing in the same old stale league they are now? Its not working at the moment, what do you think will change if the "carrot" of maybe/possibly/one day promotion was on the table? How are Auckland, and WU and Macarthur , allowed to have a direct place in the Alegaue with NO HISTORY of a paying crowd coming to their matchs beforehand? The "eurosnobs" arent going to watch them, the existing local football fans arent paying to watch them and "mainstream Australia" doesn't even know they exist..... Before the NSL we had 4-5 very very strong state league comps and yes a national competition was perhaps rushed and unprofessional.... but 27 years of the "effnik" disaster and 20 years of the "franchise disaster" and NOTHING has really changed.... surely its time to try plan B? Mid believes the MLS methods that for one we have no chance doing with pittance compared to billions for starters. Next their model is make believe in the big picture like the most of their sports they had no choice but to follow Franchise paths. We started by UK settlers/convicts followed by euro migrants by the plenty. We/they come from lands with P/R hence this current systems dilemma and barrier appeasing to the many beneath who dont want to grasp APL. Not All eurosnobs are totally closed about local football, countless of them are involved in grass roots and NPL lands. IF there ever was a NST some would gain interest. A football league doesn’t start from having the top all primed up and go from there for many have No connect. It won’t filter down no matter the bells and whistles working on fans to get to a game.
Maybe some like in the past but it won’t last again till there is local roots input and chance to go up and go down.
The emotional feel counts hence we are nothing like USA.
USA buys into everything to get a ROI - they are only worried about the buck !
Oh the final - lost interest once no NPL in it I lost interest when Manly Vale got knocked out in the early rounds. Then was interested with SFC, lost interest when they got knocked out. Just watched the final. Haha I’d luv one of our local association clubs go a bit deeper one day but huge challenge let alone the NPL’s. Manly vale - did you ever frequent Bryant’s ? Did I ever frequent Bryants, yes it was walking distance to where I used to live, now a big housing estate. :(Prior to internet this was the go to pub to find out all the local scores every sat arvo. I saw a lot big bands in my young days there. Haha pre tech. some of my biggest and epic nights was seeing Angels Oil’s etc incl up the road Antler amongst other venues. Pre breath testing and FREEDOM.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xDoes anyone rate Brattan? Not super familiar with his career. You don't watch football in this country. Get fucked. I've been consistently going to most smfc games for the past decade, and they play in what country? He meant, top level football, not the minor version. Then why didn't he say it? My apologies, I don't follow any teams in the EPL, but I know all the best players. Ur actually so dense First you tell me to get fucked, now you calling me dense, charming bloke!!! I hope you don't have children. HAHA fair enough, why not? Because they won't put up with bs from ppl like you? Oi - no need to behave like this, robbos is cool relax He's not behaving like it, most of the people on here (including urself) are cool and are down to talk, having proper convocations about football but our friend Robbos just likes to make snarky comments.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xDoes anyone rate Brattan? Not super familiar with his career. You don't watch football in this country. Get fucked. I've been consistently going to most smfc games for the past decade, and they play in what country? He meant, top level football, not the minor version. Then why didn't he say it? My apologies, I don't follow any teams in the EPL, but I know all the best players. Ur actually so dense First you tell me to get fucked, now you calling me dense, charming bloke!!! I hope you don't have children. HAHA fair enough, why not? Because they won't put up with bs from ppl like you? Oi - no need to behave like this, robbos is cool relax He's not behaving like it, most of the people on here (including urself) are cool and are down to talk, having proper convocations about football but our friend Robbos just likes to make snarky comments. But you are the one calling me dense & telling me to get fucked because I asked whether you followed football in this country because you asked about Bratten, one of the top players in Australia, though getting long in the tooth. But I'm the nasty one? never have I told you to fuck off or call you dense.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xDoes anyone rate Brattan? Not super familiar with his career. You don't watch football in this country. Get fucked. I've been consistently going to most smfc games for the past decade, and they play in what country? He meant, top level football, not the minor version. Then why didn't he say it? My apologies, I don't follow any teams in the EPL, but I know all the best players. Ur actually so dense First you tell me to get fucked, now you calling me dense, charming bloke!!! I hope you don't have children. HAHA fair enough, why not? Because they won't put up with bs from ppl like you? Oi - no need to behave like this, robbos is cool relax He's not behaving like it, most of the people on here (including urself) are cool and are down to talk, having proper convocations about football but our friend Robbos just likes to make snarky comments. But you are the one calling me dense & telling me to get fucked because I asked whether you followed football in this country because you asked about Bratten, one of the top players in Australia, though getting long in the tooth. But I'm the nasty one? never have I told you to fuck off or call you dense. Who is Bratten mate? Is he that guy with the headband that plays for MaCarthur that was complaining about the pitch at Lakeside being "too spongy" and then the next week played on a paddock with rugby union markings on it? HAhahaha is he one of the top players in Australia? The guy is a hack mate, nothing but slow movement and clumsy challenges, shouldnt have even played in the final but for lenient reffing in the semi. oh dear Robbo.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xDoes anyone rate Brattan? Not super familiar with his career. You don't watch football in this country. Get fucked. I've been consistently going to most smfc games for the past decade, and they play in what country? He meant, top level football, not the minor version. Then why didn't he say it? My apologies, I don't follow any teams in the EPL, but I know all the best players. Ur actually so dense First you tell me to get fucked, now you calling me dense, charming bloke!!! I hope you don't have children. HAHA fair enough, why not? Because they won't put up with bs from ppl like you? Oi - no need to behave like this, robbos is cool relax He's not behaving like it, most of the people on here (including urself) are cool and are down to talk, having proper convocations about football but our friend Robbos just likes to make snarky comments. But you are the one calling me dense & telling me to get fucked because I asked whether you followed football in this country because you asked about Bratten, one of the top players in Australia, though getting long in the tooth. But I'm the nasty one? never have I told you to fuck off or call you dense. Of course I follow football in Australia, why else would I be contributing to this forum? Someone was actually kind enough (unlike urself) to reply to my comment and outline Brattan's career. I knew of him and new he was at city (at some sort of capacity), but thats why I said 'super familiar'. I'm sorry If I offended you, and for not being well versed with someone who's peek was a decade ago whilst making 0 senior mens national team appearances.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xDoes anyone rate Brattan? Not super familiar with his career. You don't watch football in this country. Get fucked. I've been consistently going to most smfc games for the past decade, and they play in what country? He meant, top level football, not the minor version. Then why didn't he say it? My apologies, I don't follow any teams in the EPL, but I know all the best players. Ur actually so dense First you tell me to get fucked, now you calling me dense, charming bloke!!! I hope you don't have children. HAHA fair enough, why not? Because they won't put up with bs from ppl like you? Oi - no need to behave like this, robbos is cool relax He's not behaving like it, most of the people on here (including urself) are cool and are down to talk, having proper convocations about football but our friend Robbos just likes to make snarky comments. But you are the one calling me dense & telling me to get fucked because I asked whether you followed football in this country because you asked about Bratten, one of the top players in Australia, though getting long in the tooth. But I'm the nasty one? never have I told you to fuck off or call you dense. Who is Bratten mate? Is he that guy with the headband that plays for MaCarthur that was complaining about the pitch at Lakeside being "too spongy" and then the next week played on a paddock with rugby union markings on it? HAhahaha is he one of the top players in Australia? The guy is a hack mate, nothing but slow movement and clumsy challenges, shouldnt have even played in the final but for lenient reffing in the semi. oh dear Robbo. Mono, he's an old man now, why SFC let him go. Bit like me on a English football forum asking who is this James Milner guy because I don't have a team in the PL.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xDoes anyone rate Brattan? Not super familiar with his career. You don't watch football in this country. Get fucked. I've been consistently going to most smfc games for the past decade, and they play in what country? He meant, top level football, not the minor version. Then why didn't he say it? My apologies, I don't follow any teams in the EPL, but I know all the best players. Ur actually so dense First you tell me to get fucked, now you calling me dense, charming bloke!!! I hope you don't have children. HAHA fair enough, why not? Because they won't put up with bs from ppl like you? Oi - no need to behave like this, robbos is cool relax He's not behaving like it, most of the people on here (including urself) are cool and are down to talk, having proper convocations about football but our friend Robbos just likes to make snarky comments. But you are the one calling me dense & telling me to get fucked because I asked whether you followed football in this country because you asked about Bratten, one of the top players in Australia, though getting long in the tooth. But I'm the nasty one? never have I told you to fuck off or call you dense. Who is Bratten mate? Is he that guy with the headband that plays for MaCarthur that was complaining about the pitch at Lakeside being "too spongy" and then the next week played on a paddock with rugby union markings on it? HAhahaha is he one of the top players in Australia? The guy is a hack mate, nothing but slow movement and clumsy challenges, shouldnt have even played in the final but for lenient reffing in the semi. oh dear Robbo. I know you don't follow the A-League & I'm sweet with that, but Bratten has been a 4 times A-League Champion & 4 times A-League team of the season. I'm sorry you don't like him, but hard to argue his credentials. I'm not a big fan of Jordan Henderson, dumb of him to go to Saudi where his running, his main attributes, was never going to amount much in the heat, you need to rely more than than your physical strength when playing in the heat, but I would struggle to argue against his credentials for Liverpool.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xDoes anyone rate Brattan? Not super familiar with his career. You don't watch football in this country. Get fucked. I've been consistently going to most smfc games for the past decade, and they play in what country? He meant, top level football, not the minor version. Then why didn't he say it? My apologies, I don't follow any teams in the EPL, but I know all the best players. Ur actually so dense First you tell me to get fucked, now you calling me dense, charming bloke!!! I hope you don't have children. HAHA fair enough, why not? Because they won't put up with bs from ppl like you? Oi - no need to behave like this, robbos is cool relax He's not behaving like it, most of the people on here (including urself) are cool and are down to talk, having proper convocations about football but our friend Robbos just likes to make snarky comments. But you are the one calling me dense & telling me to get fucked because I asked whether you followed football in this country because you asked about Bratten, one of the top players in Australia, though getting long in the tooth. But I'm the nasty one? never have I told you to fuck off or call you dense. Who is Bratten mate? Is he that guy with the headband that plays for MaCarthur that was complaining about the pitch at Lakeside being "too spongy" and then the next week played on a paddock with rugby union markings on it? HAhahaha is he one of the top players in Australia? The guy is a hack mate, nothing but slow movement and clumsy challenges, shouldnt have even played in the final but for lenient reffing in the semi. oh dear Robbo. I know you don't follow the A-League & I'm sweet with that, but Bratten has been a 4 times A-League Champion & 4 times A-League team of the season. I'm sorry you don't like him, but hard to argue his credentials. I'm not a big fan of Jordan Henderson, dumb of him to go to Saudi where his running, his main attributes, was never going to amount much in the heat, you need to rely more than than your physical strength when playing in the heat, but I would struggle to argue against his credentials for Liverpool. I dont have ANY feelings about him mate, never seen him play apart from one or two matches... For a player who is such an Aleague legend Ive never heard of him play for the national team..... Jordan Henderson wore the three lions shirt 80+ times mate... the comparison is laughable.
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