f1dave
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Fuck me, I'm now reading De Silva is being sold to a club in Italy.
If true, all the best...
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hotrod
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f1dave wrote:Fuck me, I'm now reading De Silva is being sold to a club in Italy.
If true, all the best... That's just fucked. Completely and utterly fucked. Makeche, De Silva. Why would anyone want to play for Glory, especially youth. He'll tear it up there and end up playing for Australia. Meanwhile Glory scratch their heads and wonder what could have been. MAYBE IF THEY PLAYED HIM MORE AND IN HIS PREFERRED POSITION AND NOT ON THE WING. FUCKTARDS. ](*,)
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Best thing for him to be honest. Not even mad.
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hotrod wrote:f1dave wrote:Fuck me, I'm now reading De Silva is being sold to a club in Italy.
If true, all the best... That's just fucked. Completely and utterly fucked. Makeche, De Silva. Why would anyone want to play for Glory, especially youth. He'll tear it up there and end up playing for Australia. Meanwhile Glory scratch their heads and wonder what could have been. MAYBE IF THEY PLAYED HIM MORE AND IN HIS PREFERRED POSITION AND NOT ON THE WING. FUCKTARDS. ](*,) The kid has talent, all talented young players leave Australia, huge step from having potential to fulfilling that potential though. Good luck to him I hope he makes it.
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well at least we know why he hasn't been given game time. most likely has been kept in cotton wool while the deal gets over the line.
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f1dave
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He'll be loaned back to us apparently.
Still, so much for holding onto him till he was 18 (although from memory that was Edwards who said that, no-one else?)
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Benjo
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Da Silva isn't good enough to get more than 5 minutes off the bench, but apparently good enough for a Serie A team.
I know a lot of us wanted him bought along gently, but it's hard to say he's been bought along at all under Lowe. Given how shit our season has been, surely it would've made sense to try and change things in order to try and nab a win.
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hotrod
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Benjo wrote:Da Silva isn't good enough to get more than 5 minutes off the bench, but apparently good enough for a Serie A team.
I know a lot of us wanted him bought along gently, but it's hard to say he's been bought along at all under Lowe. Given how shit our season has been, surely it would've made sense to try and change things in order to try and nab a win. Exactly. Good enough for a Serie A but not good enough for a crap team on the bottom of the AL??? ](*,) If he is loaned back he MUST BE PLAYED in his preferred position.
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Shanagar
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There I go, I've commented for the Club, now I don't even have to wait for their glib reasoning:
"We won't stand in the way of players if there's other options they want to pursue and this is consistent with that."
One wonders how this extra year at Glory has progressed DDS as a footballer. Hard to see any benefits whatsoever, and the same goes for others. I do wonder why O'Neill signed on for his extra 2 years, as I see the same issues for him. Gets good runs pre-season, can be a fill-in, but only till our older, injury niggled players are on the scene when the real stuff starts.
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Oh surprise.
Good enough for Serie A, not good enough for A-League.
Dave, think you'll find Ali was quoting FIFA regulations, if the family doesn't move, De Silva can't be transferred until he's 18.
Would have made a lot of sense for him to stay here at least another year, actually play for the team and Glory actually manage to develop a youth player since Ruka in 09 (well even then Perth SC were the main ones there).
Too much to ask for obviously, at least he gets out of this rat hole.
Can't wait to see Marinkovic and some back up spud as the #10 next season. Already looking so exciting!
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http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/soccer/a/19463989/1m-de-silva-bid-rejected/^ That's the article from before ^ So he goes there now, comes back here in July? I guess his parents have to move to get around the regulations?
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bovs wrote: Every midfielder in the squad, apart from perhaps McGarry and Ryan Edwards, is either a winger or a genuine defensive midfielder. Since it was known that McGarry was probably not going to pull off the dynamic central midfield role based on past form... that meant Ryan Edwards as a proper central midfielder or no-one.
I agree that the squad was unbalanced and that Ali was one experienced central mid short, but I don't think that Cam Edwards is a 'genuine defensive midfielder'. He's a central passing midfielder. And although he didn't do well for us, there was also Cernak who not a def mid. bovs wrote:Combine that with the lack of cover at full-back and the fact that at the start of the season we only had Thwaite and Pantelidis as experienced CB options... I would definitely call that unbalanced. The idea was to have youth cover, not experienced cover. It just happened to pass that BOTH our full backs went down with long term injuries. Davies and Woodcock have probably been amongst the best of the youth players. Pantelidis is not really a player who will take us forward, and replacing him with a class CB was good in theory, but not perhaps in hindsight (both Ljubo and Gallas were big risks and we didn't get as much out of them as we hoped). O'Neill was earning praise all through pre-season as a CB and Clisby has done pretty well (again, youth mistakes, but the young lad are enterprising and look to push forward). bovs wrote:Watched Adelaide getting good coverage on SBS again tonight... what a joy to watch. Pass the ball about with precision and dictate games, create great goalscoring chances, good youngsters like Malik, Barker-Daish, Mabil and Bowles coming through, and 5 imports in Ferreira, Carrusca, Cirio, Isaias and Neumann who all fit into their salary restrictions and have more talent between them than the entire Glory squad.
And to think, barely over a year ago they were a troubled club and arguably behind Perth Glory in developmental terms. Amazing what a couple of smart signings of key personnel and a commitment to build a stylish and entertaining football tea can achieve. I'll definitely be cheering on the Reds come finals time. Those imports are class. Most came because they love to play under a good coach who they have faith in. Edwards was never going to able to find a bunch like that with his connections and the imperative to keep players like Burns and McGarry in the squad. However, I too will be cheering Adelaide in the finals - they are a great side and a sign of what one can achieve with a clever coach who has the freedom to go out and find key players to suit his system. Gombau was signed after an international search, with pressure within the club to name Valkanis as coach. They pulled it out of the fire and went for success rather than a boys club. Here's hoping we can head in this direction.
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GloryB
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f1dave wrote:http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/soccer/a/22101470/young-glory-star-eyes-italy-deal/
Again he will be loaned back to us. I can understand us not getting in his way and going for the money now. BUT once he is a loan player, the incentive to develop him further starts to diminish. We'll only use him once he's big enough to win us games, and Marinkovich will be nailed on at #10 if avail in the near future. If this season is any guide, I think that this might mean that De Silva sees less time in the near future with us rather than more. Overall, this has the potential to be worse for him and worse for the club.
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bovs
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GloryB wrote:
Those imports are class. Most came because they love to play under a good coach who they have faith in. Edwards was never going to able to find a bunch like that with his connections and the imperative to keep players like Burns and McGarry in the squad.
However, I too will be cheering Adelaide in the finals - they are a great side and a sign of what one can achieve with a clever coach who has the freedom to go out and find key players to suit his system. Gombau was signed after an international search, with pressure within the club to name Valkanis as coach. They pulled it out of the fire and went for success rather than a boys club. Here's hoping we can head in this direction.
That's kind of the point summed up regardless of squad balance and what-not... sign a class coach like Gombau has been so far, and you get a whole bunch of benefits: 1) success on the park 2) an attractive team to watch on the park 3) good players *wanting* to join your squad (giving the club the upper hand in salary negotiations) 4) better development of young players Ali Edwards was certainly delivering a number of positives (more than any other coach in the Sage era) but he *wasn't* delivering enough for me to justify all the claims that we would've been so much better on had we not fired him. We were not winning games that a finals-bound team would've been winning, we were not attractive to watch (save for 1 or 2 games at most) and after the bust-up with senior players and the claims of nepotism, no quality player would be seeking us out as the sort of club that'd be good for their career. PLUS we had DDS and O'Neill not being utilised by Ali well before they were being left out by Kenny so so much for player development. Hindsight is a wonderful thing for sure... but given it, it was a mistake to sign Ali Edwards after his interim spell and the club will be better off if we get the next coaching appointment right than if Ali Edwards was still around. Of course, the chances of us getting the next coaching appointment right are slim-to-none on past form. If DDS is as good as he has been made out to be (and we've seen so little of him at club level that I find it hard to judge definitively although he looked a class above at youth level)... he *needs* to be developing with equally elite young players in a European club environment for the sake of the Socceroos. Staying this season was a nice idea in theory, but we all presumed he'd play 15-20 games which he simply has not been given the chance to do... basically a wasted year in his development.
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Read the article now, and see DDS has started only twice, a sub 8 times, (and an unused sub twice). There weren't too many minutes in a lot of those subs.
Here's a couple of DDS stats - - Glory have won 5 games, DDS has been in 4 of those, and started in 1.
- He started against Phoenix (win) and CCM (lost, the late Burns hiccup on new years eve). - Both games subbed out before 60 minutes. - He was selected 6 times in Ali's 10 games, but an unused sub in one of those.
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It'd be nice if DDS played more games in the middle as well.
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Shanagar wrote:Read the article now, and see DDS has started only twice, a sub 8 times, (and an unused sub twice). There weren't too many minutes in a lot of those subs.
Here's a couple of DDS stats - - Glory have won 5 games, DDS has been in 4 of those, and started in 1.
- He started against Phoenix (win) and CCM (lost, the late Burns hiccup on new years eve). - Both games subbed out before 60 minutes. - He was selected 6 times in Ali's 10 games, but an unused sub in one of those.
http://www.aleaguestats.com/ALeagueStats_25Players_756.html13 appearances in total. Starting 11 on 2 occasions. Youngest ever player for Perth Glory (since the A-League started). 3rd youngest player in the A-League ever (Teeboy Kamara for Adelaide and Alusine Fofanah for WSW were younger).
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GloryB
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And DDS has mostly been out on a wing. He should have been given a few minutes at #10, esp at games end when things slow up a bit. Now, if he's already sold, where is the incentive to develop him? Should only sell and loan back a young player if he's already demanding a place in the side. Buying club know he'll develop cos selling club need him to win games.
@ bovs. yep, Edwards wasn't the messiah and he made a number of miscalculations which got him sacked and would have made it hard to play good football this season. I think we just disagree a bit to the EXTENT that that Edwards messed up.
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Shanagar
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http://www.aleaguestats.com/ALeagueStats_25Players_756.html13 appearances in total. Starting 11 on 2 occasions. Youngest ever player for Perth Glory (since the A-League started). 3rd youngest player in the A-League ever (Teeboy Kamara for Adelaide and Alusine Fofanah for WSW were younger). [/quote] Apologies for adding up my stats wrong. ALeague have 4 matches last year, and 9 this year, while ME counted only this season. I still like the idea of DDS being involved in 4 of our 5 wins. Regardless of what he's done, nearly makes him worthwhile to at least get in each game day squad.
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0-1 in NPL v Stirling Lions. Very bright start with QuaQua and Edwards linking up well. Much higher standard than previous home game. Woodcock on left wing again. Stirling goal scored by Daniel Micevski after about 30 mins. Glory may have been briefly down to 10 when goal scored (not sure if injured player had come back on). Glory's best chance came just before half time. Good overlapping run by left back Josh Tucker into box. Stepped over a challenge that if he had allowed contact would have been a penalty. Cross tipped away by keeper came to QuaQua who completely stuffed a clear shot on goal. Ex Glory players Hayden Doyle and Aleks Vrteski playing for Stirling. Actually not sure if it is Vrteski - it looks like a bloke who has eaten Aleks Vrteski.
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biscuitman1871 wrote:...a bunch of informative and interesting stuff... thanks again biscuitman.
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Woodcock off after about an hour. Good chance for O'Brien well saved by Vrteski but O'Brien could have done better. Sub on was Borbor Sambindi has had two good chances already. Glory have also had a goal disallowed for questionable offside (from the reaction of spectators in line)
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Finished 0-2. Glory lost ball in midfield, Stirling came through the middle and sub Jack Salter dinked the ball over advancing Greenwood. Edwards subbed off about 15 mins before end for Lawrence Shuruma who missed a great chance created by a very lively Sambindi who did a lot of good stuff but final ball let home down on most occasions. Very good for Glory was Rocco Pizzata (who I mistook for Jacob Collard last home game). Plays centre back, quick and good on the ball, but probably not tall enough to play centre back at A League level. Crowd probably less than half of last home game. Half a dozen active fans behind goal waving flags but no chanting obviously. Much better announcing of teams, subs etc. Played "Always look on the bright side of life"'after final whistle. Edited by biscuitman1871: 22/3/2014 08:34:46 PMEdited by biscuitman1871: 25/3/2014 04:03:28 PM
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Thanks for the reports.
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Regarding The DDS 'saga', I don't think it's fair to say the club thinks he's 'not good enough for a league level'. The kid maybe 17 but he has The build of a 14yo. He would just be getting hacked every week so I agree that he needs to be carefully managed (keeping in mind he has had injury troubles this season).
If it is true that he gets loaned back next season one would hope he is playing a bit more regularly. We all knew he was leaving when he turned 18 so what harm is it if he gets his overseas deal sorted now while we have absolutely nothing to play for?? The important thing is that transfer fee isn't wasted...
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Was at Sorrento today to watch the Gulls v Perth SC.
Former Glory players Todd Harnwell (NSL), Scott Bulloch, and Reece Vittiglia lined up for the home side, the latter grabbing a goal. Entertaining game which ended 5-3 to Perth; ridiculously good value for $10, certainly above anything I've seen from Glory this year bar maybe the Welly game.
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I'm just going to leave this here...  *walks away slowly...* Edited by f1dave: 23/3/2014 12:12:08 AM
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f1dave wrote:I'm just going to leave this here...  *walks away slowly...* Edited by f1dave: 23/3/2014 12:12:08 AM Oh dear, Perth Glory social media strikes again. Reminds me of this
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