AJ has his Kingz and his Knights mixed up there.

Point 1 and 3 didn't apply to the Kingz.

Point 2 should be point 1 then. No Rufers = Kingz fail

Although the Kingz were more 'successful' than the Knights, I agree. But hardly. I have fond memories of the Kingz beating Marconi Stallions at the cake tin in Wellington in front of a sizeable crowd.

humm, checks smh.com.au, yes MICHAEL COCKERILL has an article today, oops nothing to do with this though. The bullshit rating is edging higher.

http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/27/what-the-b-league-should-look-like/

what u think clowns?

The question mark at the end of the words indicates that he maybe trying to ask a question to somebody. But I have no idea what he is saying.

LOL, you're so funny, that’s not posted by a journalist its posted by a reader, probably you. Mate you can call us clowns once we start looking as silly as you.

LOVE THE IDEA but would ffa run with it racists

well this was a good funni story, no salary cap ay, so if they ever get promoted they would really need to get rid of half there time to fit under the a-league cap, yer mad idea, but thanks for the laugh anyway,

lol at this thread. This is the rumour mill not the enchanted forest.

Remember in the old FIFA games with no A-League when u could rename clubs in the English Championship so you would form the Australian league and change the kits etc? You would always have to make up some some new teams to fill all the extra spots and you end up with a fantasy league.
9/10 on creativity and productivity in your spare time, but 0/10 on the way you have dealt with the obvious criticism that was inevitably going to come your way with such a fanciful 'rumour'

what the deal with the b-league or A2 league what ever u want to call it?

any news lately?

can sydney olympic take the ffa to the anti discrimination board if they are not allowed in due to their supportters having greek backgrounds? only in australia god love this country

Edited by OLYMPICMAS: 16/1/2010 02:50:59 PM

If the capacity stadiums are less than 10000 the FFA should stop wasting their time.

I know that the UK have stadiums less than 10000 (but not many) but yet again Australia are that many times larger than the UK.

This B league won't happen. The A League should expand to a good 15 teams, then they should keep it for a few seasons and then think about a new league. If the B league was going in next season it would be the most rubbish professional football league in the world, because A League players aren't that good either.

1. The level of football would be very amateur

2. Would fans be bothered to go across Australia to watch amateur players? No.

3. Funding would all go to the A League

4. No new talent would erupt there because it's easy enough for players to make it in the A League

5. People very disinterested

6. Only Australian players because foreign players wouldn't bother

7. Global knowledge- very very low. Everyone knows about the Championship, French Ligue 2, Serie B, Liga 2 in Spain, etc. Even the US don't have a 2nd tier, (or if they do no one knows about it). Hardly anyone knows about the A League

8. Sponsorship would probably the local butcher shop (okay exaggerating a little) but you get what I mean.

Enough???

HUH? we have a larger land mass but a much much smaller population.
The B-League would only aim to draw around 3-5k supporters, so large stadiums would be an eyesore and a drain on the finances.

You think Sydney Olympic should take the FFA to the anti discrinination board because they wont let them join a competetion that doesnt exist?

Maybe you should sue me for not letting you into my 9 story mansion but what has that got to do with "only in australia". Does the FA in England let teams with ethnic fans join nonexistent compeitions? If it does sorry that we discriminate more than they do.

the crowd average gave you away

i think crowds for the b league would be in the 1k-3k range since the a league isnt pulling huge crowds.

and operating costs for div 2 teams in USA are about $2M
so you wouldnt want any more than say $3M

and yeah second teams in perth and brissy are a miss for now

and since you asked

A League

1. Adelaide United
2. Brisbane Roar
3. Central Coast Mariners
4. Gold Coast United
5. Melbourne Heart
6. Melbourne Victory
7. Newcastle Jets
8. North Queensland Fury
9. Perth Glory
10. Sydney FC
11. Sydney Rovers
12. Wellington Pheonix

13. Camberra United
14. South Coast FC
15. Hobart FC
16. Auckland Attempt 2 FC (not including NSL)

B League

1. Perinth FC
2. SE Melbourne FC
3. Sunshine Coast FC
4. Geelong FC
5. Darwin FC
6. Peel Coast FC
7. Christchurch FC
8. Launceston FC

this is assumed that places like peel and darwin keep growing
could have another sydney/melb/adelaide maybe and Toowoomba/Albury

C League

basically mixture of teams from VPL and NSWPL
you can guess who they are

but aus is years and years off even getting the a league to 16 teams
i dont foresee a second div until at least 2022.....

"B League teams in anywhere there is a A League team woulden't work. Why would you go to an inferior new franchise when you already support/can support a top division one.

Edited by mvictory: 17/1/2010 12:12:10 PM

Correct. The idea of formalising a third tier with heritage teams is interesting, but for even the B-League teams to survive, they would need to stand alone for a period. A third tier would be at least 20 years away.

Where the hell is the FC FC Wagga Wagga Froggers, Atletico Kakadu, 1860 Ballarat, SS Toowoomba, Real Goondiwindi, Futbol Club De Mt Gambier, South Auckland Bros, Calcio Narre Warren, Coffs Harbour Cough Medicines, Christchurch Saint-Germain, Werder Dunedin, Dinamo Orange & El Sportivo Port Moresby. This is an outrage. How can football heartland continue to get overlooked!!!

I wish people would stop listing areas for expansion/2nd division sides.

The make-up of any second division will depend entirely on who is willing to back a side in a lower division.

The fact that so few are able to afford A-League franchises indicates that finding backers for a lower division will be even harder...

So we're left asking the question - if we have no backers, but still want a 2nd division, where can we get 'new' teams from?

I still believe that the answer is to say that the 2nd division should be a 'stand-alone' division consisting of existing clubs, no promotion or relegation, used almost entirely to condense the 'best of the rest' talent in Australia into a smaller, better quality pool. Take away promotion/relegation, then the 'fear' of old clubs polluting the A-League with their scary ethnicity is dissolved somewhat.

Also, as a non-franchise league, there wouldn't be problems with major investors if the FFA felt the need to remove/replace an under-performing (either on the field, in the stands or at the bank). Best case scenario, if a club does well year-on-year, the FFA can invite them to step up to the A-League.

I'd play the entire competition Tues-Thurs, 2 games a night.

So, the FFA gets it's second division; the old clubs get a national competition and get to keep their 'identity'; the players get another chance at pro football; the supporters get more choice; Fox Sports get extra games; and the FFA has it's insulation if things go wrong.

I've said this all before though.

Same question could be asked of Melbourne Heart though. Why would you go to a new franchise when you already have the best supported, most successful team in the league on your doorstep?

The answer, I suppose, is choice. Especially if the 2nd division (not B League, please, we're in Australia, not Baustralia) consists of existing clubs with their existing small supporter base.

confirmed to me by a friend yesterday that b-league will come into play by 2014

So what teams is this B-League meant to include by 2014.

olympic, south melbourne, united , melbourne knights, adelaide second team, richmond, brisane second team, tassie, wollongong, darwin, marconi

If you want people to actually believe your bullshit don;t make it so fanciful and un realistic.

Absolutely pathetic. At least admit you made every single piece of this up yourself.

Auckland will never be given another chance. That's reasonably obvious. New Caledonia and Auckland? Really? Considering the AFC is trying to block the Phoenix out?

And I'm pretty sure it'd be called the A2-League or A-League division 2. Not B-League. The 'A' stands for Australia. What does the 'B' stand for? Bullshit?

We shouldn't be so quick to critize his bullshit, he's given it 4 years before it occurs..

:roll:

a2 commencing from 2014

Its offical, zero gravity football to replace ground football as more popular game in 2098!! (Olympic wont be allowed in it either)

B is for bullshit,yes? these have more chance of happening
Queensland will stay as is
on the NSW side
1 Olympic will merge with the Berries,Dulwich Hill,St George FC,Stanmore Hawks
2 Marconi will merge with BWE
3 South coast will merge with SutherLand Sharks
4 United will merge with Macarthur Rams,
5 APIA will merge with Rockdale,Fraser Park FC
6 Blacktown will merge with Mt Druitt Town Rangers
7 Manly will merge with Northern Tigers FC, Central Coast Lightning
8 Bankstown will merge with Parramatta Eagles, Granville Rage, FC Bossy Liverpool
with the superleague, div1, div2 wound up and the clubs that don't make it wil beforced in to local amature comps.

the same type of consolidation and sheding of teirs will be done in VIC,SA,WA on till there is one main teir in of the big state markets with the those leagues being acl compliant(ACT,NNSW,NT TAS will be ignored)

It's not about the timeframe. It's about the fact that Frank Lowy and the FFA won't let those teams into a B-League. Simple as that.

yeah I get that. Read what I said, it was tounge in cheek.