Cool_Cat2007
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lambs to the slaughter What do you think about the FourFourTwo article Kiwis Name Their World Cup Squad? CANTERBURY'S Aaron Clapham was the surprise inclusion when the New Zealand World Cup squad was announced in Auckland today.Have your say.
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Daniel1991
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If you blokes win one game...please make Italy.
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StiflersMom
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To be smacked from pillar to post, unattached player, wtf?
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Jets_Fan
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Jeremy Brockie - Good enough for world cup, not good enough for a-league? According to most people anyway. I've never seen him play.
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Maltese Rat
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Costa Barbarouses?
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Mickyroo
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FFA wants us to pay good money to see this rubbish team???
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Cool_Cat2007
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Quote:Jeremy Brockie - Good enough for world cup, not good enough for a-league? According to most people anyway. I've never seen him play. he was starting to string some games together, but then got his leg broke. not too sure how he gets picked. David Mulligan's inclusion is even funnier. ironically picked by the same coach who doesn't play him! wtf LOL
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PK75AU
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Isn't Moss suspended until the final group game?
Combined with the fact he sux, what's the point of picking him?
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bopman
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Oh god I can't wait until you and your team of geriatrics are on the same flight home as us with your tail between your legs having acheived your goal of being the most boring team at the tournament!
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PK75AU
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bopman wrote:Oh god I can't wait until you and your team of geriatrics are on the same flight home as us with your tail between your legs having acheived your goal of being the most boring team at the tournament! We call shotgun on the aisle seats\:d/
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marius lacatus
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yeah, you guys are f'n cocky given the gaps in your side. at the centre of defence and up front there is not a lot between your squad and ours.
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dandy_thunder
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fuk yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go clapham...dandy thunder star! was loaned to canterbury this season, was due to return (but fuk it, ur goin world cup) sik cunt...were all proud of ya!
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Tommycash
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Wicked, I like the fact they brought in two other countrys players. I think it's good initiative. Hey not the worst squad in the world. I think we may see them do ok. I hope they win some.
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JimmyO
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Woah Marius, the only defender Australia could want from the All Whites is Nelsen, while up front we still have better options than NZ. The likes of Colosimo, Holman, Carle & Griffiths would crawl into your team.
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bobbyR
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you Australians are so fucking arrogant.
concentrate on your own fucking team before you come onto forums and bash ours.
you guys are going to get a wake-up call at the WC. Wait and see....
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Diegos Son
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marius lacaus wrote:yeah, you guys are f'n cocky given the gaps in your side. at the centre of defence and up front there is not a lot between your squad and ours. Sam, we'll worry about our group, you worry about yours. We're playing in different groups at the Cup, just leave it at that.
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bopman
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@JimmyO You would take Reid aswell, ranked in the top 5 players in the Danish Premier Division last year and reportedly on the radar of Premier League and Serie A clubs.
While I dont whole heartedly agree with Marius I think the way you guys play means that we could give you a good run in Melbourne. Nelsen/Reid/Vicelich/Sigmund will be able to control Kennedy and the bombs that will rain down.
I think the squad is ok, I dont think they will disgrace themselves anyway.
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loyalgunner
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If I was Aussie coach I'd take Killen in the Aussie squad if he was eligible - you lads have massive gaps there. I think the NZ squad is good in defence and attack and is only missing out in midfield.
One mistake is bringing both Christie and Mulligan. Only one of them is necassary (or neither - we could bring Duncan Oughton in from the MLS). And Moss shouldn't come, Spoonley should take his spot. And to those who chuckle as if they have a clue about the fact Mulligan never played for the Phoenix (not much, anyway) but got selected for the All Whites by the same coach, you have no idea. The other players in the squad make it very different. Brown, Muscat, Ferrante and McKain could all play in Mulligan's position and this kept him out. Like I said, the All Whites are weak in midfield and the players are different so there's nothing funny or strange about Mulligan being there.
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bopman
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Diego's Son wrote:marius lacaus wrote:yeah, you guys are f'n cocky given the gaps in your side. at the centre of defence and up front there is not a lot between your squad and ours. Sam, we'll worry about our group, you worry about yours. We're playing in different groups at the Cup, just leave it at that. Could you be a more patronising arrogant cock? Honestly, you should try harder at it because it would be funny to see if you can get any worse.
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loyalgunner
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The other players in the Phoenix squad make it very different.*
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Cool_Cat2007
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Quote:yeah, you guys are f'n cocky given the gaps in your side. at the centre of defence and up front there is not a lot between your squad and ours. you must be kidding right?? and lets not forget the fact that the majority of your squad stopped playing months ago. We are stronger than you in 99% of positions. the only guy you can fall back on is that old war horse Nelson, who only got his starting position back after an injury to Samba! James Bannatyne (Team Wellington) playing at state league level Glen Moss (Melbourne Victory) sitting on the pine Mark Paston (Wellington Phoenix) injured. in fact, Reddy looked superior in every way to Paston Andy Boyens (New York Red Bulls) plays in MLS Tony Lochhead (Wellington Phoenix) very inconsistent defender. a massive liability who concedes penalties for fun David Mulligan (unattached) ironically picked by the same coach who doesn't play him! wtf LOL Ryan Nelsen (Blackburn Rovers) old war horse, getting slower by the day Winston Reid (FC Midtjylland) picked on hyped up dvd's Ben Sigmund (Wellington Phoenix) incredibly slow andtechnically inspipid Tommy Smith (Ipswich) bench warmer Ivan Vicelich (Auckland City) plays state league level Andy Barron (Team Wellington) plays state league level Leo Bertos (Wellington Phoenix) first half of hal season was good, 2nd half, dreadful Jeremy Brockie (Newcastle Jets) broke his leg, but still somehow in the squad? Tim Brown (Wellington Phoenix) one dimensional midfielder Aaron Clapham (Canterbury United) plays state league level Jeremy Christie (FC Tampa Bay) 2nd tier in US!! Simon Elliott (unattached) old war horse way past expiry date Michael McGlinchey (Motherwell) doesn't play Rory Fallon (Plymouth Argyle) league 1 striker Chris Killen (Middlesbrough) sits on the pine Shane Smeltz (Gold Coast United) good at a-league level Chris Wood (West Bromwich Albion) doesn't feature in match day squads Edited by cool_cat2007: 10/5/2010 01:57:14 PM
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Teza
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Cool_Cat2007 wrote:Quote:yeah, you guys are f'n cocky given the gaps in your side. at the centre of defence and up front there is not a lot between your squad and ours. you must be kidding right?? and lets not forget the fact that the majority of your squad stopped playing months ago. We are stronger than you in 99% of positions. the only guy you can fall back on is that old war horse Nelson, who only got his starting position back after an injury to Samba! James Bannatyne (Team Wellington) playing at state league level Glen Moss (Melbourne Victory) sitting on the pine Mark Paston (Wellington Phoenix) injured. in fact, Reddy looked superior in every way to Paston Andy Boyens (New York Red Bulls) plays in MLS Tony Lochhead (Wellington Phoenix) very inconsistent defender. a massive liability who concedes penalties for fun David Mulligan (unattached) ironically picked by the same coach who doesn't play him! wtf LOL Ryan Nelsen (Blackburn Rovers) old war horse, getting slower by the day Winston Reid (FC Midtjylland) picked on hyped up dvd's Ben Sigmund (Wellington Phoenix) incredibly slow andtechnically inspipid Tommy Smith (Ipswich) bench warmer Ivan Vicelich (Auckland City) plays state league level Andy Barron (Team Wellington) plays state league level Leo Bertos (Wellington Phoenix) first half of hal season was good, 2nd half, dreadful Jeremy Brockie (Newcastle Jets) broke his leg, but still somehow in the squad? Tim Brown (Wellington Phoenix) one dimensional midfielder Aaron Clapham (Canterbury United) plays state league level Jeremy Christie (FC Tampa Bay) 2nd tier in US!! Simon Elliott (unattached) old war horse way past expiry date Michael McGlinchey (Motherwell) doesn't play Rory Fallon (Plymouth Argyle) league 1 striker Chris Killen (Middlesbrough) sits on the pine Shane Smeltz (Gold Coast United) good at a-league level Chris Wood (West Bromwich Albion) doesn't feature in match day squads Edited by cool_cat2007: 10/5/2010 01:57:14 PM Can you be our new coach please as your understanding of NZ players is without equal.
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marius lacatus
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We have some serious limitations, no question. But the quality of our fringe players is really a bit of a red herring. 11 v 11 we are still massive underdogs but capable of making life difficult.
I do think Australia will have issues at centre of defence and real trouble if Neil got injured. Moore is past it, Griffiths a journeyman, North only good enough for Norway and COlosimo only good enough for the A-League. The AWs actually do have better credentialled centre backs. The Socceroos also have problems up front, esp with Kewell marginal.
And having said that I will be supporting the aussies. I hope they do well. I respect the success they have had in recent years. They're a good side, but not without their own personnel gaps.
FInally, DS, when your mates choose to slag off our squad, I deem that an invitation to take a closer look at yours. All the same Id be grateful if you could clarify your rules for me. Am I allowed to comment on any side outside NZ's group or not? And until when? Until the world cup begins? til it finishes? is this restriction limited to internet sites or all conversation? It is really lucky we have such great footballing minds and world game experts in Australia from whom we can learn so much.
Yours gratefully.
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PhoenixTerra
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why do you even need to waste your time on commenting on this post all you fags who say nothing but "yous are gonna be boring..." blah blah blah half of us dont even give a shit on what you have to say so you can go shove right back up your hole and stop wasting your time fags
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Don't get too worked up mate. I'm sure that most Aussies like myself will be cheering on the all whites. After all, we do like a good underdog.
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Daniel1991
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I really hope the A-League players of the squad can do really well and learn a thing or two and come back next year with a heapful of confidence. As for Moss...why is he in. If he was in against Bahrain we wouldnt even be having this discussion!
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Cool_Cat2007
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Griffiths over Smeltz anyday...
And yes, maybe Moore is past it. but If you are talking credentials for cb's, Moore wins out. I'm not sure what you meant by that. Mainly Moore's attitude is what brought him back from Greece. And Lucas Neil knocked back Liverpool because of $$$ and went on to play for West Ham and Everton before joining European giant Gala. Nelson's happy enough just to be playing for a lower table premier league team
The issue is Pim chooses to select mates. It's unfortunate that Kisnorbo is out (even though i don't rate him), but we still have some guys performing for top clubs in Asia. We have more depth than you in every position, guys like Madaschi would walk in to your team.
Younger guys like Ryhs williams can cover in that position also
Edited by cool_cat2007: 10/5/2010 03:38:44 PM
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Gyruss
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PhoenixTerra wrote:why do you even need to waste your time on commenting on this post all you fags who say nothing but "yous are gonna be boring..." blah blah blah half of us dont even give a shit on what you have to say so you can go shove right back up your hole and stop wasting your time fags lol @ fags.... How old are you? There's some pretty angry words there tiger!
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A.Haak
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Mulligan has to be the most perplexing inclusion in any world cup squad ever
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Teza
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Cool_Cat2007 wrote:Griffiths over Smeltz anyday...
And yes, maybe Moore is past it. but If you are talking credentials for cb's, Moore wins out. I'm not sure what you meant by that. Mainly Moore's attitude is what brought him back from Greece. And Lucas Neil knocked back Liverpool because of $$$ and went on to play for West Ham and Everton before joining European giant Gala. Nelson's happy enough just to be playing for a lower table premier league team
The issue is Pim chooses to select mates. It's unfortunate that Kisnorbo is out (even though i don't rate him), but we still have some guys performing for top clubs in Asia. We have more depth than you in every position, guys like Madaschi would walk in to your team.
Younger guys like Ryhs williams can cover in that position also
Edited by cool_cat2007: 10/5/2010 03:38:44 PM Hang on wasn't being past it one of the issues you had with a number of the All Whites?
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