Quick recap for those who slept in? :lol:

PS4 is exactly the same as what we have now (discs, trade in etc) but with a significant performance boost.

Destiny looks amazing.

Sony won the hardware battle, Xbox winning the game showcase (imo).

I'm genuinely shocked at no DRM on Ps4. I was positive that they would both do exactly the same thing.

Because of Halo 27 and Gears of War 14?

Please don't say it's because of Call of Duty 12 :-s

I don't like either, but Xbox will never have games like Uncharted or Last of Us.

-PB

The only reason I got a 360 was because of these two games. :lol:

Take my money Sony

Theres been what 3 uncharted games on the PS3?
4 Gears of War games current gen
4 Halo's current gen

Whats the big difference, that you allude to but not state?

Please don't say its because they're all the same, because then I genuinely worry that you're coming from a Video Game 'hipster' point of view, as opposed to someone who genuinely believes this stuff.

PS4 confirmed $549 in Australia

@Paulbagz For reference:

Uncharted: 07,09,11
Halo: 07,09,10,12
GOW: 06,08,11,13

Developmental cycles eerily similar, yet GOW and Halo are just cash cows?

Edited by jlm8695: 11/6/2013 01:43:01 PM

Source (EB Games Australia)

Why are EB Games stocking Xbox One if it's going to kill their used game market?

PS4 to require annual subscription fee, as you need PS+ to play online.

IIRC Playstaion+ is more expensive than 12 months of xbox live.

Sony destroyed Microsoft. Was extremely satisfying to watch.

It's a bummer about having to pay for online now but PS+ is such an amazing service that I'm more than happy to pay for it.

60 Bucks a year is about the same/little more than Xbox Live I think. But david's right, Playstation+ offers so much more than XboxLive, it's definitely got more value to it.

Xbox One... The new Sega 32X...

Actually that shames the 32X too much. How about Xbox One, the new Atari Jaguar

"Require" Probably not the best term to use. You don't have to pay anything, and you can still play all your games.

I'm getting a playstation

I'm not actually sure about Xbox Live Gold pricing. PS Plus is $69.95 a year. From what I can find retailers stock 12 month cards for Xbox Live at $89.95.


I'm sure there's cheaper ways for it though, surely people don't pay that much for Xbox Live Gold.

That's cheaper than xbl

Mine is around $75 a year iirc

Will PS+ keep the instant game collection? If so, I'd be more than happy to get PS Plus.

I'd pay that price for no DRM on its own.

Required to access the full content of your games, happy now?

And 12 months of XBL is $40, so a $20 difference.

And from experience, Xbox Servers> Playstation.

The playsation does look a more attractive proposition though, still getting both :lol:

Honestly for what you get with PS+ $60 is an absolute steal and mucu better value than XBL Gold

I can go to Ozgameshop right now and buy a 12 Month XBL subscription for 48 bucks. The new PS+ will be 5 A month, so 60 for a year. That's assuming that you can't get it cheaper elsewhere, like you can with XBL.

The PS4 online subscription shouldn't worry their fanbase, considering the majority of them play exclusively offline because of the big bad DRM right?

You mad bro?

Keen to see Microsoft's reply.

Rumours circulating at the moment that the Xbox One will change to disc authorisation (ie no online only), and if there's no disc, it will change to the online DRM system.

Sound's like a smart move.

Yes, you also get Drive Club free for PS4

:lol: :lol:

Worth considering: Third console syndrome? The major players in the home console market all seemed to have failed or stumbled in their third outing:

NES - SNES - N64 (trounced commercially, despite some excellent games, for refusing to innovate)

SMS - SMD - SAT (Questionable hardware decisions and poor software licensing negotiations, trounced commercially and effectively took SEGA out of the console market)

PS1 - PS2 - PS3 (Pricing issues, lost traction. Not a commercial failure but was outdone by the 360)

XBX - 360 - XBO (Severe consumer backlash towards announced features, fate TBD...)


Sony will be looking to outdo the performance of the historical players with their fourth console though, we know how the GC and DC went...

It certainly isn't a positive, but it's still 10x better than DRM. Either way, I don't have to pay for Plus to buy used games or lend them to a mate. I've borrowed dozens of games that I didn't connect to the internet on PS3. That won't happen with Xbox.