BusbyBabe
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:BusbyBabe wrote:For example, if defender A is playing and his team are dominating the game and he only has to make one tackle but defender B is under the pump and makes 10 tackles. Is defender B better because he made more tackles? I agree with you to an extent, but you're taking a very narrow view of it. You obviously can't use stats to form a judgment or opinion based on one game, it's just not possible for obvious reasons. They're meant to be used over a period of time/games when things generally balance out. Yeh, I'm not disregarding stats completely, as I said they have their place but very, very rarely can it be used to simply rank similar players. They honestly only tell half the story.
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jlm8695
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The thing is, Evans and Koscielny aren't even near similar players. One was one of the best in the league this season, and the other is most probably going to be replaced by our 3rd choice CB.
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BusbyBabe
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jlm8695 wrote:The thing is, Evans and Koscielny aren't even near similar players. One was one of the best in the league this season, and the other is most probably going to be replaced by our 3rd choice CB. Yes, I know Koscielny had a good season, no doubting that, he has improved heaps. Evans has also been one of the best in the league in previous seasons. An Irishman who came through a clubs youth system is never going to get the attention (good or bad) that a foreign signing will though (especially when he has two club legends playing their part too). I also understand the point that you are only as good as your last game but last season Evans was injured for large parts and we had Moyes pulling the strings. Doesn't make Evans less of a player, he just needs to prove himself again. And in terms of style, they are actually very similar :lol: Edited by busbybabe: 4/7/2014 03:33:57 PM
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jlm8695
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I think if Evans wasn't plagued by persistent injuries that there wouldn't be much between them, but his last 2 seasons has seen him fall off the pace a little bit and as mentioned Koscielny is light years ahead of where he was 2 seasons ago. On potential for performance they're probably even, but with what's actually been delivered the past couple of years I think Kos is comfortably ahead.
Edited by jlm8695: 4/7/2014 03:40:56 PM
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BusbyBabe
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jlm8695 wrote:Fair enough, I do rate Evan's, I just think he's stagnated whereas Koscielny has gone from a liability to a top class CB. No doubt Evans has stalled, pretty much every United player has, our best players like Carrick, RVP etc all had stinkers. Arsenal had one of their best seasons, so it's only natural that they look to be on different paths but I would be really surprised if we have another season like we just did.
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jlm8695
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Would be so happy if this was our first 11 next year:lol:
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utd_19
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so would i
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jlm8695
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You should be more concerned about trying to play catch up with Everton and The Spuds than us mate.
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utd_19
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you amateur
manchester united plays catch up to nobody
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jlm8695
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utd_19 wrote:you amateur
manchester united plays catch up to nobody
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utd_19
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20 times 20 times man united
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utd_19 wrote:20 times 20 times man united Does anyone have a get-load-of-this-guy-cam (ala Wayne's World) gif cos I think its appropriate for this situation.
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Debuchy apparently confirmed to French TV that he's on his way. Reported fee is around £8m which is a fucking steal.
Also AS reporting that Sanchez has turned down Liverpool's offer and now Barcelona have two offers to pick from, ours or Juve and apparently, according to AS, they prefer our offer.
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Carlito
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Would love it if we get debuachey,alexis and k he'd ria . Also where's our links to Kalaou and gorcurff:lol:
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"Only Ozil could create the most chances at the World Cup while playing out of position and still get lambasted"
So fucking true. I don't think I've ever seen a player cop as much stick as Ozil, even when he's playing a level above his team-mates. It has to be this false concept that he's lazy or disinterested. Not his fault he can glide around the pitch and make it look effortless :lol:
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sydneycroatia58
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jlm8695 wrote:"Only Ozil could create the most chances at the World Cup while playing out of position and still get lambasted"
So fucking true. I don't think I've ever seen a player cop as much stick as Ozil, even when he's playing a level above his team-mates. It has to be this false concept that he's lazy or disinterested. Not his fault he can glide around the pitch and make it look effortless :lol: It's all because he has that classic eastern European look of appearing to be slow or lazy. Berbatov had the same thing.
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BusbyBabe
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What's the latest you guys have heard about Vermaelen?
We are hearing it could be close.
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jlm8695
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I've heard nothing from the usual Arsenal sources, but saw a tweet from some BBC journo saying its on.
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sydneycroatia58
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Expect that one to pick up again this week if Belgium are eliminated tonight.
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BusbyBabe
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:Expect that one to pick up again this week if Belgium are eliminated tonight. Yeh, I would guess it could be similar to when England got knocked out with Shaw. That's assuming there is a deal in place.
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Was the tweet by Debuchy saying "au revior Brazil, bonjour Arsenal" legit? Is he signed?
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Carlito
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Some itk saying debuchy doesn't have an instagram account but it does have the tick. .
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jlm8695
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Instagram doesn't have ticks.
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Carlito
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Well some one posted an instagram screen shot with a twitter tick on it .photos hop fail
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Carlito
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Or was it a screen shot the twitter feed
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David Ornstein reporting that we're in 'advanced' talks with both Sanchez and Debuchy and still in the market for a holding midfielder and GK.
Imo I think Debuchy is all but done, if not done already and any announcement will wait until the kit unveiling on Thursday.
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Carlito
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Do we know any names linked to us for dm?? Also would or should we go for keylor navas and or Julio cesar??
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Do we know any names linked to us for dm?? Also would or should we go for keylor navas and or Julio cesar?? Heard Schneiderlin a while ago. I think Debuchy will be an awesome signing, if you manage to get him.
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BusbyBabe
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Debuchy is a good signing but you would think they still need a first choice RB to come in. Would have taken him in a second behind Rafael.
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No Debuchy will be first choice and him and Rafael are on the same level, both good fullbacks.
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