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Torres training alone, after he arrived back from Spain after the team finished... What are you thinking Nando?

And some pics of our possible new #9
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Looks like he's set to move tonight, and might make his debut this weekend against Liverpool.
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davidtorres wrote:
Yep just saw it on Twitter then. Hope this means he is staying...


Kenny spoke to Torres, told him to do this to make the owners buy Suarez. All good :P

I start back at Uni tomorrow, how am I meant to go to bed now ffs, when news might break!
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His armband proved he was a red Torres Torres
But Roman came and turned his head Torres Torres
Signed for the club that gives out flags
and the dirty captain shags your WAGS
Fernando Torres keep an eye on your bird


And now he's proved he’s not a Red
Torres, Torres
'I'm off to Stamford Bridge', he said,
Torres, Torres
He kissed the badge upon his chest,
Turned in his transfer request,
Fernando Torres told us a bunch of lies

Some funny mock ups I've seen :lol:
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Yep just saw it on Twitter then. Hope this means he is staying...
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Sky just showed Torres arriving at Melwood
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Can [size=1]the[/size] Liverpool FC [size=1] thread[/size] turn the page and move on from all the crap that has been tormenting them for the last few days pages?
:P

Really looking forward to the Stoke game.
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Guest wrote:
So basically what you are saying is you can not back up this argument with stats unless Liverpool singed a striker from Holland years ago who's scoring record has dropped since then.

That is stupid. A direct comparison about a now Liverpool player with players who have played in the same league and style as him is a perfectly acceptable argument. I point blank refuse to accept that it is wrong to compare players who have the same pedigree if they haven't played for the same clubs once leaving Holland. It is a perfectly valid argument to make and back up the point I am trying to make.

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Comparing the players is fine, going into an in depth discussion of their stats, is not. This thread is for Liverpool discussions, If you want to prove your point about strikers from Holland flopping after they move, start a new thread for it.

I'm not derailing this thread any further for this stupid argument, it ends here. Keep this thread for Liverpool Discussion, end of.

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No i'm not. I am justifying why I think that 26 million pounds for Suarez is a ridiculous fee.


By proving Huntelaar has a poor record? No. You're going about it the wrong way, so stop doing it.


When Huntelaar and for that matter the majority of strikers out of Holland have flopped outside of Holland. When Huntelaar and Suarez are the exact same type of player? Seems like a perfectly justifiable argument to me.

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No, you're missing the point.

1. Liverpool sign Suarez (About Liverpool)
2. Suarez will flop (Still About Liverpool)
3. No he won't, you can't prove that (Still About Liverpool)
4. Yes he will because heaps of strikers from Holland have flopped (Still About Liverpool (just))
5. No they haven't, Here are some names that haven't (Still just about Liverpool)
6. Here are there records outside of Holland, they flopped (Not about Liverpool)

You're up to point 6. The fact that you're wrong in the matter just adds more icing on the cake.


So basically what you are saying is you can not back up this argument with stats unless Liverpool singed a striker from Holland years ago who's scoring record has dropped since then.

That is stupid. A direct comparison about a now Liverpool player with players who have played in the same league and style as him is a perfectly acceptable argument. I point blank refuse to accept that it is wrong to compare players who have the same pedigree if they haven't played for the same clubs once leaving Holland. It is a perfectly valid argument to make and back up the point I am trying to make.

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Guest wrote:
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No i'm not. I am justifying why I think that 26 million pounds for Suarez is a ridiculous fee.


By proving Huntelaar has a poor record? No. You're going about it the wrong way, so stop doing it.


When Huntelaar and for that matter the majority of strikers out of Holland have flopped outside of Holland. When Huntelaar and Suarez are the exact same type of player? Seems like a perfectly justifiable argument to me.

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No, you're missing the point.

1. Liverpool sign Suarez (About Liverpool)
2. Suarez will flop (Still About Liverpool)
3. No he won't, you can't prove that (Still About Liverpool)
4. Yes he will because heaps of strikers from Holland have flopped (Still About Liverpool (just))
5. No they haven't, Here are some names that haven't (Still just about Liverpool)
6. Here are there records outside of Holland, they flopped (Not about Liverpool)

You're up to point 6. The fact that you're wrong in the matter just adds more icing on the cake.
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Funky Munky wrote:
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No i'm not. I am justifying why I think that 26 million pounds for Suarez is a ridiculous fee.


By proving Huntelaar has a poor record? No. You're going about it the wrong way, so stop doing it.


When Huntelaar and for that matter the majority of strikers out of Holland have flopped outside of Holland. When Huntelaar and Suarez are the exact same type of player? Seems like a perfectly justifiable argument to me.

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Guest wrote:
No i'm not. I am justifying why I think that 26 million pounds for Suarez is a ridiculous fee.


By proving Huntelaar has a poor record? No. You're going about it the wrong way, so stop doing it.
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Funky Munky wrote:
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The point still remains that paying big money for a striker out of the Dutch leagues is very risky business.

IIRC he was a starting XI player when he joined Milan and went something like 10 games without a goal and got benched.

Discussion about Huntelaar relates directly to Liverpool though at the moment now they have signed Suarez.

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Paying big money for any player to move to a new country is risky business.

And no, Huntelaar has nothing to do with Liverpool because they have signed Suarez. That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.


Huntelaar = Leading scorer in Holland before moving abroad.

Suarez = Leading scorer in Holland about to move abroad.

How is it not appropriate to compare players of the same position, who have the same style of play and same scoring records?

If it is not appropriate then sure Huntelaar has nothing to do with Liverpool but seeming it is appropriate to make these comparisons Huntelaar and how he has faired since leaving Holland is more than acceptable to bring up.


Because you're not comparing their records, you're trying to justify that why you think Huntelaar has a poor record outside of Holland. That has nothing to do with Liverpool.


No i'm not. I am justifying why I think that 26 million pounds for Suarez is a ridiculous fee.
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Guest wrote:
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The point still remains that paying big money for a striker out of the Dutch leagues is very risky business.

IIRC he was a starting XI player when he joined Milan and went something like 10 games without a goal and got benched.

Discussion about Huntelaar relates directly to Liverpool though at the moment now they have signed Suarez.

Edited by guest: 30/1/2011 11:14:15 PM


Paying big money for any player to move to a new country is risky business.

And no, Huntelaar has nothing to do with Liverpool because they have signed Suarez. That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.


Huntelaar = Leading scorer in Holland before moving abroad.

Suarez = Leading scorer in Holland about to move abroad.

How is it not appropriate to compare players of the same position, who have the same style of play and same scoring records?

If it is not appropriate then sure Huntelaar has nothing to do with Liverpool but seeming it is appropriate to make these comparisons Huntelaar and how he has faired since leaving Holland is more than acceptable to bring up.


Because you're not comparing their records, you're trying to justify that why you think Huntelaar has a poor record outside of Holland. That has nothing to do with Liverpool.
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Funky Munky wrote:
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The point still remains that paying big money for a striker out of the Dutch leagues is very risky business.

IIRC he was a starting XI player when he joined Milan and went something like 10 games without a goal and got benched.

Discussion about Huntelaar relates directly to Liverpool though at the moment now they have signed Suarez.

Edited by guest: 30/1/2011 11:14:15 PM


Paying big money for any player to move to a new country is risky business.

And no, Huntelaar has nothing to do with Liverpool because they have signed Suarez. That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.


Huntelaar = Leading scorer in Holland before moving abroad.

Suarez = Leading scorer in Holland about to move abroad.

How is it not appropriate to compare players of the same position, who have the same style of play and same scoring records?

If it is not appropriate then sure Huntelaar has nothing to do with Liverpool but seeming it is appropriate to make these comparisons Huntelaar and how he has faired since leaving Holland is more than acceptable to bring up.
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The point still remains that paying big money for a striker out of the Dutch leagues is very risky business.

IIRC he was a starting XI player when he joined Milan and went something like 10 games without a goal and got benched.

Discussion about Huntelaar relates directly to Liverpool though at the moment now they have signed Suarez.

Edited by guest: 30/1/2011 11:14:15 PM


Paying big money for any player to move to a new country is risky business.

And no, Huntelaar has nothing to do with Liverpool because they have signed Suarez. That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
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6 year deal for a striker from the Eredivise who's unproven in England is a bit ridiculous and a massive gamble.


Contracts don't count for nothing these days.... :-"


True, just an insurance policy so if he does flop they can ask for a bigger transfer fee I guess.


Precisely.
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Funky Munky wrote:
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Luis scored 81 goals in 108 apperances for Ajax, Impressive stat for a 24 yrold.


Huntelaar scored 76 in 92 at the age of 21/22/23 and how has he gone since then.


Well, he then played for Real Madrid... and then AC Milan... and is now doing very well at Schalke. Sounds like a pretty good career.


And he has played 63 games since leaving Holland for a total of 22 goals.


TBF on Huntelaar, nearly half those games have been off the bench, particularly at Real and AC Milan, where he struggled because of it. I'd wager that his actual goals per minutes played would stack up decently compared to other strikers in recent times.

EDIT: But that's another matter, for another thread, keep the discussion on Liverpool in this here Liverpool thread.

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The point still remains that paying big money for a striker out of the Dutch leagues is very risky business.

IIRC he was a starting XI player when he joined Milan and went something like 10 games without a goal and got benched.

Discussion about Huntelaar relates directly to Liverpool though at the moment now they have signed Suarez.

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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
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6 year deal for a striker from the Eredivise who's unproven in England is a bit ridiculous and a massive gamble.


Contracts don't count for nothing these days.... :-"


True, just an insurance policy so if he does flop they can ask for a bigger transfer fee I guess.


No way they will get 26 million for him if he does flop though.
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Luis scored 81 goals in 108 apperances for Ajax, Impressive stat for a 24 yrold.


Huntelaar scored 76 in 92 at the age of 21/22/23 and how has he gone since then.


Well, he then played for Real Madrid... and then AC Milan... and is now doing very well at Schalke. Sounds like a pretty good career.


And he has played 63 games since leaving Holland for a total of 22 goals.


TBF on Huntelaar, nearly half those games have been off the bench, particularly at Real and AC Milan, where he struggled because of it. I'd wager that his actual goals per minutes played would stack up decently compared to other strikers in recent times.

EDIT: But that's another matter, for another thread, keep the discussion on Liverpool in this here Liverpool thread.

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davidtorres wrote:
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6 year deal for a striker from the Eredivise who's unproven in England is a bit ridiculous and a massive gamble.


Contracts don't count for nothing these days.... :-"


True, just an insurance policy so if he does flop they can ask for a bigger transfer fee I guess.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
6 year deal for a striker from the Eredivise who's unproven in England is a bit ridiculous and a massive gamble.


Pointing out facts is trolling according to Liverpool fans ;)
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
6 year deal for a striker from the Eredivise who's unproven in England is a bit ridiculous and a massive gamble.


Contracts don't count for nothing these days.... :-"
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davidtorres wrote:
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Torres apparently didn't show up at training. FML.


Oh hush. He is obviously not going to run out on to the pitch and start training... shit is going down... it will get sorted or it wont. Wait and see.

SSN showed photos of Suarez at Melwood though :)


I know what you mean, but obviously he isn't going to be the same now for the rest of the season if he stays.


You mean he could be worse:lol: ;)
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imnofreak wrote:
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Torres apparently didn't show up at training. FML.


Oh hush. He is obviously not going to run out on to the pitch and start training... shit is going down... it will get sorted or it wont. Wait and see.

SSN showed photos of Suarez at Melwood though :)


I know what you mean, but obviously he isn't going to be the same now for the rest of the season if he stays.
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6 year deal for a striker from the Eredivise who's unproven in England is a bit ridiculous and a massive gamble.
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In another attempt to try and get this thread back on topic and avoid more trolling:


Jim Boardman - Suarez had his medical yesterday and last night the deal was all done bar "formalities". Should be able to celebrate that deal soon.

anfieldonline: Suarez set to sign 6 year deal. Met his new teammates at Melwood this morning.
3 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

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Luis scored 81 goals in 108 apperances for Ajax, Impressive stat for a 24 yrold.


Huntelaar scored 76 in 92 at the age of 21/22/23 and how has he gone since then.


Well, he then played for Real Madrid... and then AC Milan... and is now doing very well at Schalke. Sounds like a pretty good career.


And he has played 63 games since leaving Holland for a total of 22 goals.
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Guest wrote:
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Luis scored 81 goals in 108 apperances for Ajax, Impressive stat for a 24 yrold.


Huntelaar scored 76 in 92 at the age of 21/22/23 and how has he gone since then.


Well, he then played for Real Madrid... and then AC Milan... and is now doing very well at Schalke. Sounds like a pretty good career.
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davidtorres wrote:
Torres apparently didn't show up at training. FML.


Oh hush. He is obviously not going to run out on to the pitch and start training... shit is going down... it will get sorted or it wont. Wait and see.

SSN showed photos of Suarez at Melwood though :)
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