The world cup is 'the biggest stage' - these games are not friendlies, the opposition are no mugs, every team in Qatar is there by right. 

The Socceroos squad has a large contingent of AL players or players developed in the AL 

Leckie (City) and Goodwin (AU) have scored against 2 of the top 10 nations in the world - that is 'fair impressive' 

i wont lie i had doubts esp after we got pumped by France but we actually showed the world cup that the A-League 'is not so bad' matter of fact the 'AL can produce players that are competitive of going head-to-head with some of the worlds best' on the biggest stage and that has to be a big W for the league 

it definitely should win respect amongst aussie fans (don't care what other countries think)

It has gone to a new level the last 2 seasons and that has been led by aussies.

I reckon I have had trouble telling the difference between the quality of the a league and the leagues most our osaussies play in

It' s   all   about   getting   the   results   when   it   really   matters .

And   the   A- league   has   certainly   produced   here .

The A-League is a good league.

Yes it is hamstrung by various suits but if you just look at on the pitch it is a good league.

People are WAY too harsh on it and see only what they want to see.

It's not the premier league but only the premier league is the premier league and people need to get over it.

really hope our asian champions league campaign goes well this year

Exactly. If we isolate the football alone, the A-League is exactly what you'd expect for the money that is spent on it. I'd say in many cases, some squads perform well above their dollar value. EFL League One is probably the most similar when it comes to dollar values, and I'd say the quality is pretty similar. Our best squads probably wouldn't be quite good enough to get promoted, but they would definitely be competitive in League One. That being said, the summer does us no favours. The A-League is definitely slower paced in comparison. 

Why    does   the   APL   choose   to   play  its   league   over   summer ?  Why   doesn' t    the   APL    just   play  it   in   Winter ?

If 2 consecutive WCup wins by a squad of many A league players can’t win respect then nothing can?!

hopefully- even if the Roos lose to Argentina- more new fans will start attending/watching AL games 

during the nsl era they found that winter football has 10% more passes per 90 minutes but at the cost of 30% lower crowds

Plus competing with AFL and NRL for attendance and viewers 🙁

Except Qatar...

Socceroos were the head stories tonight on Ch 9 news and lasted 9 minutes. 

That is meaningful, even if they do insist on calling football soccer.

Are   you    suggesting   that    the   APL   is   more   concerned   with    Metrics   than   the   quality   of    the   football ?

No. But the eggball codes are definitely competition for them which doesn’t help 

So   why   doesn' t   the   APL   choose   to  play   over   Winter  then ?

My colleague was raving about Leckie's goal today and I said, you know what, you can see him doing similar things week in week out just down the road. She's got a young kid into football so it might just translate into a crowd bump.

I think the World Cup shows just how fine a margin it can be between different levels. Like, obviously Eriksen is a class player but surround him with players of slightly lesser ability and he doesn't particularly stand out. Meanwhile, Mitch Duke seems to have a game style that's more or less as effective at A-League level as it is here on the world stage. That maybe a slightly uncouth style, but not denying he's a supreme athlete and a pest. 

Code can't survive on thin air 

Are   you   suggesting   that    the   APL   is   more   concerned   with   Metrics    than  the   quality    of   the  football ?

They don't. The agreement between the APL and the FA is that the FA chooses which months the A-League takes place over and the APL does the fixture for the individual matches. So the question is why doesn't the FA choose winter? It's a great question. Can't say for sure but probably fear. Which seems to be a fear based on gut feelings rather than actual evidence. 

Clearly it's because it's preferred by the TV owners and gets better airtime in summer due to less competition from other codes.

All that equals to improved sponsorship and more money.

the   Ca$$$h , " TV  owners "  etc

Depends from whose perspective. 

If you're talking about outsiders from Euro looking in, then NO I don't believe any respect has been gained. These snobs live in a fishbowl. They only care about their tiny milieu, everything else sucks. 

Hell even rusted on EPL supporters call Ligue 1 a 'Farmers League'. 

That being said, locally, I think the world cup performance is a real shot in the arm for the league.

When going through the start line up vsing the Danes......if I'm right 7 of them have done their time OS more than any AL Club.
4 AL.
Subs more AL and some OS Karacic/Hrustic/Cummings/Wright but you can't say they have done much game time.
Just a matter of opinion.
I'll say it again, Arnie quoted when starting up he looked here there was not much to pick so he went to the Olyroos.
Re read it
https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/world-cup/fifa-world-cup-2022-graham-arnold-calls-for-review-of-australian-youth-development-on-eve-of-socceroos-v-denmark/news-story/f2bbc095f815744706d664d2035de11b
“When you’re ringing A-League coaches and you’re talking about two players per club… I could barely get a squad together to go to Thailand and to Cambodia.
“It’s not right. We need kids more given an opportunity in Australia. For me there’s massive concerns for the future moving forward unless it’s fixed. It was a quick fix, that’s why I did the Olympic team for nothing.“That’s why I had to do it, for a reason, when I asked the organisation ‘what’s the Olympic program’ and it’s ten days preparation with a team that didn’t have a coach two months before. Those type of things are not right.”

I didnt realise the Aleague craved respect? I though they just wanted a ROI????? 

No the ALeague has not got respect overseas. Those in the know realize this is a handicapped league. Others don't even realize Australia has a pro league. Other Leagues spend ALOT MORE on better players. Here is one example of many, take ESPN fc's Craig Burley, everytime Socceroos or other nations of similar quality get a mention, he misses the show or is condescending and bothered. Continued success by the Socceroos and continual growth of the football code along with going two generations into the future, A League would then get the respect. The current generation have to die out unfortunately.
We don't even have two divisions, with pro/rel, transfer market income streams and 14-16 teams. The league is too small, we don't even play 30 rounds of the season proper, besides Australia Cup.
The WC will end and within a couple of days the Socceroos exploits will be in the back of the mind, not at the front like now, lets be honest about this. All the problems are not suddenly solved. Well done to the Socceroos, they have been great value for the moment.

To be clear i doubt many of us care about getting respect in europe it is local eurosnobs respecting the game and therefore getting involved locally that matters

They are all busy learning more about the Saudi League and brushing up on their arabic chants in preparation for the mighty "Ronaldo of Arabia" to notice the Aleague :)

There are many countries that don't respect their league.

I'm in a mad football country now, and they think their league is shit. When I look at their standard, it's on par or maybe a little less than the A-League and I don't think it's shit.

Trouble is, everyone wants to have a Premier League, Serie A, Bundesliga etc which is a fine ambition but...........

You take every opportunity to crap on the A-League, we know.

Mono I find your contributions very entertaining (if sometimes tediously defensive about NSL/NPL/ethnicity).

Why can't you be part of the solution? Oz football will never start to reach its true potential until all true believers are facing in the same direction.

With Paramount/10 going for the cricket, I wonder if they might prefer to have some winter sport...