Nice mate, youll get alot of joy watching him this year.... 

which club u support?

some a league mods have gone to club forums i notice. I wonder if we can entice 1 or 2 back

Confirmed now.

https://ccmariners.com.au/news/sabit-ngor-joins-central-coast-mariners-on-two-year-deal/

Rumour is he has already signed and club is waiting on the best time to announce it..... 

He is getting lots of thumps up on our forum, its seen as a very astute and clever signing with most expecting him to be in the first 11..... seems many people agree with your assessment... BTW he has been on trail for a while now... 

In their minds maybe - after-all they foisted the founding date of the colony of NSW on us as "Australia Day". Nevermind we had an Olympics in Melbourne prior.

Thing is though, the world was a much bigger place in 1956 than in 2000 let alone now. The tyranny-of-distance definitely reigned supreme, for one - but also there's the small matter of the postwar-migrant boom still being very much a work-in-progress(to say nothing of it being actively resisted by 'mainstream Australia' in an overall sense, never mind specifically a footballing one) then.

Fair points BA81 but really the Olympics may have had some influence modern times modern days 2000 let’s not forget Melb had the 56 ? Olympics but being a Sydney fella NRL has its stronghold though not like it used to but I don’t recall its media singling out our game so much and on radio compared to Melb, nor cause lots of ill truths and fixture issues etcetc
They wouldn’t want to give it the exposure I feel but for modern day stooges like Gould would make comment on crowd issues be it NPL or AL on radio or the talk shows on Fox nowadays.
We more so went through as Johnny W titled book Sheila’s Wogs Poofters.
That was fife at schools and on the streets.
Sissy game.

That's a very good point/theory actually...

In my experience, so this is as a born and raised in rural NSW (probably just north of the "Barassi" line), and then moving to Canberra in adulthood - it does always seem to be from the AFL land rather than Rugby League as well.

I would say that back then(late '90s) there def still was open-hostility towards football from Rugby League(and Union), even if not to the same extent as it had(and continues to) to put up with from the AFL in its respective strongholds.

It's always been my pet-theory that Sydney/NSW hosting a lil' sports-carnival by the name of the Olympic Games in 2000 went a *very* long way towards obliterating that sort of parochial bloodymindedness that by contrast still very much characterises Melb/VIC and the other AFL strongholds to this day...

?? Got me there.... I dont know much about matters up north... I guess maybe, being rugby and football both played on similarly sized pitches,  the turf war we experience down here isn't as pronounced? 

Good read, and everything spot on - but also proves the point that I mentioned in the first post:

No disdain for Parramatta Eels in there (as compared with Carlton and Collingwood).

franchises, franchises..... same old story, same old players.......

https://www.sbs.com.au/sport/article/a-league-expansion-driven-by-money-lacks-soul/hzmz94hjv

Interesting point of discussion - I notice they are the ones always brought up with this - but you mentioned another team/club that would fall into the same boat, that isn't generally mentioned in the same breath of "Imaging letting clubs from other evil sports in our league": Parramatta Power. My understanding is that they are essentially Parramatta Eels.

I know that nothing happened with Parra after the NSL folded (having lost the last NSL Grand Final and finishing 2nd on the table that season). "

Were there any conceptions of them possibly "ruining our sport from within" (as is probably the thinking with Carlton/Collingwood in the NSL), or does it seem like there's more respect for Football from the Rugba Leeg community? Genuinely curious on those old enough to have lived those days. I was a wee-one back then, and my main memories of the NSL are the two Perth v Sydney Olympic finals (in light of my brother's mate being playing for Olympic around that time/just afterwards) - nothing off-field like this.

yer saying reactive was being polite so to speak.
RD and look where we are so so many years later, same same Feds do their its my State outlook.
I get looking after your patch but we're in the same quick sand as in the past, FA should be able to rule over every State on specific directives so as every State is aligned on the same pathways/systems.
OMG the Carlton/whatstheirname scenario, joke.

Mentioning the NSL new dawn ethnic cleanse - sound familiar eh the young ones thought ol Frankie was the genious haha

Reactive is one way to summarise it. Thought bubbles by those in charge, marketing people, whatever were hastily brought in - everyone thought they had the fix.
The axing of Brunswick and Heidelberg more or less paved the way for Carlton and Collingwood to enter - for those not old enough to remember that scenario I won't go into detail - but just think - allowing AFL clubs to have a presence in the NSL... Yeh...

I still remember some of these initiatives being discussed by Johnny and Les on On The Ball. The penalty thing was lauded because they did it in Croatia (with apparently great success which is why they're still doing it - not). The Carlton/Collingwood thing - comparing them to European multis-sport super clubs like Real Madrid.. yes , they said something like that.

Because Perth Glory was succeeding as a "non-ethnic" club Northern Spirit and Parramatta Power were ushered in - where are they now?

thanks

Sign him up IMMEDIATELY.... very silky winger (quite young still I believe) was a stand out at the Bergers this year, go back and re-watch the Heidelberg v CCM Australia Cup game, he tore your fullbacks to shreds.... 

Mon
How much do you know about Sabit Jame Ngor, plays for Heidelberg United. 

Rumour on our forum he is signing with us on Thursday....

And politics. Although, that's a largely the sum of both the variables/problems you've already mentioned.

I dont think any "interstaters" want to take away the places of the franchise b teams playing up there in the premier competition... 

The only way P & R would work in this country is if the NPL NSW replaced the A-league as the premier football competition in Australia.  Cashed up interstaters could apply for licenses to join the competition down the track.  The principle problems in Australia are money and geography.

Hello darkest my old friend
We are talking about P & R again 
It was a vision softly creeping
and then it left my heart bleeding.

Dougie Brown and Steve Blair.... for lots of reasons, should have had long and illustrious Socceroos careers... 

I think this is one of your astute posts mate, yer I just can't see how you can break down how what when or whatever for the goal posts changed pre season, during season, end of season - next meeting to next - it had no foundation to go back on but play football.
Everything was done reactive even though the highs were brilliant and next not.

and even before them re being stiffed by results but lets not forget how part time it was in defense of them.

I think quite a few go above Wadey as much as he put in but he was SMH through and through maybe why :)

Dougie/Rooney/Abonyi/Baartz/Shaefer/Alston stand above and whoever else I've missed.

Yer Mooysie had the class we lack/ed, Rogic had some clout we lack, Maybe Milly and Jedi for guts and efforts.
Graz I'd have to delve into my stats data :) wink wink.

I mean no offence by the questions

Wade over muscat?

Only as rivals .... to answer your loaded questions with some semblance of sincerity:

Before - Paul Wade - Cptn Socceroo for longevity but I still think Boutsi, Trimboli and Polak where stiffed by playing in era of poor results.
After - the GG, not many, Rogic, Mooey, .... maybe.

Oops that was a dumb goof on my part :D

In my defence it was 6 in the morning here haha

Am i right that none of cahill, bresc, emerton, culina, moore, neill, grella, dukes, sterjovski, chippers, aloisi came through sm? Who do u think was the best roo before and after that mob?

Which lazaridis are you talking about mate? Stan Lazaridis????  Sorry mate Im not sure why or how you would associate anything to do with South Melbourne? 

Weve had 52 x players from our club wear the green and gold but NOT Stan the Man mate....

https://www.smfc.com.au/history/smfcsocceroos/

probably poorly worded on my part (for one thing it implies it was their fault rather than a centralized decision)

I meant that south melbourne didn't get relegated when they finished bottom of the ladder just before the league as a whole scrapped p&r, so I would expect their plateau in youth development to start before the league as a whole. I think south melbournes best product was laziridis whose birth year falls out of that purple patch of birth years 1975-80