The Orange Army. (Brisbane Roar Official Thread)


The Orange Army. (Brisbane Roar Official Thread)

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paulc wrote:
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Ivan & North have been confirmed that they'll miss tomorrow. Backline = Hingert, Smith, Stef, Ferreira


That's what I predicted earlier in the week. Few alternatives left open so is the best we have left have to agree.

If Ferreira has another great game in his second full match at LB then there has to be some serious consideration for him playing in that role in the future.


He's had one good game this whole season... :-|


Agree but has played in a different possie every game which is quite unfair. I don't think that much of him but if we're short of fit players and there are no better options then he should be given the LB role ahead of all others where he did play very well.

I read in another thread though that North and Franjic are now in the squad to play tonight?


On Thursday when they released the squad list it had North and franjic back. But the squad on friday member email is:

Brisbane Roar squad: 1. Michael THEO, 2. Matthew SMITH (c), 3. Shane STEFANUTTO, 8. Steven LUSTICA, 10. HENRIQUE, 11. Liam MILLER, 14. Diogo FERRIERA, 16. Jean Carlos SOLORZANO, 17. Matt McKAY, 18. Luke BRATTAN, 19. Jack HINGERT, 20. Matthew ACTON (gk), 22. Thomas BROICH, 23. Dimitri PETRATOS, 27. Devante CLUT, 28. Brandon BORRELLO

With no back up defenders on the bench is a little worrying. We got 4 chances to win the title now, its not worth players that not 100% ready.
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Mfrendin_Roar wrote:
paulc wrote:
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Ivan & North have been confirmed that they'll miss tomorrow. Backline = Hingert, Smith, Stef, Ferreira


That's what I predicted earlier in the week. Few alternatives left open so is the best we have left have to agree.

If Ferreira has another great game in his second full match at LB then there has to be some serious consideration for him playing in that role in the future.


He's had one good game this whole season... :-|


Agree but has played in a different possie every game which is quite unfair. I don't think that much of him but if we're short of fit players and there are no better options then he should be given the LB role ahead of all others where he did play very well.

I read in another thread though that North and Franjic are now in the squad to play tonight?

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paulc wrote:
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Ivan & North have been confirmed that they'll miss tomorrow. Backline = Hingert, Smith, Stef, Ferreira


That's what I predicted earlier in the week. Few alternatives left open so is the best we have left have to agree.

If Ferreira has another great game in his second full match at LB then there has to be some serious consideration for him playing in that role in the future.


He's had one good game this whole season... :-|
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Just a heads up, not sure if most fans know but the trains are down tomorrow so i guess its the bus for most people. I normally drive to Chermside then bus it straight to Suncorp.



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So The back four is officially threadbare.What happens if there is an injury now .?Who can fill in at each position?
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Mightyroar wrote:
Ivan & North have been confirmed that they'll miss tomorrow. Backline = Hingert, Smith, Stef, Ferreira


That's what I predicted earlier in the week. Few alternatives left open so is the best we have left have to agree.

If Ferreira has another great game in his second full match at LB then there has to be some serious consideration for him playing in that role in the future.

In a resort somewhere

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Ivan & North have been confirmed that they'll miss tomorrow. Backline = Hingert, Smith, Stef, Ferreira
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:
So with Franjic, Don, North and Brown all out, its certainly shown why we still need Stef.


The squad list said the Ivan north and stef are available. So we should be fine.
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So with Franjic, Don, North and Brown all out, its certainly shown why we still need Stef.
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switters wrote:
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not sure if its been posted but its an interview with thomas broich about his highs and lows in Germany and i think its a great insight

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/video/172559939539/Broichs-highs-and-lows


my favourite player in the A leagues history, such a great interview.
Without a doubt.
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Mrmcjewpants wrote:
not sure if its been posted but its an interview with thomas broich about his highs and lows in Germany and i think its a great insight

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/video/172559939539/Broichs-highs-and-lows


my favourite player in the A leagues history, such a great interview.
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not sure if its been posted but its an interview with thomas broich about his highs and lows in Germany and i think its a great insight

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/video/172559939539/Broichs-highs-and-lows
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Unfortunately, even if Lustica comes really good Mulvey has to justify to the board the contract and larger payments to Miller, so Miller will end up being No1 until his contract runs out for Mickey to save face.

I'm placing my midfield hopes on Lambaridis for next season more than Lustica. I just wish Miller will go away.


Do you know how much Miller is on?


No, do you?

But take note that the reason given for Miller's departure from Glory was because he wanted more money and a term longer than one year. Then bingo, he's at Roar on a 2 year term and a wage, well it's quite reasonable to assume it is to Miller's satisfaction and expectation. It will also be senior player's wage higher than any of the young Aussies used to date including Lustica. All common sense.



I don't, but you keep saying he is on a lot when both of us don't know. Maybe he was willing to take less per year at the Roar in order to get a 2 year deal. Ie 250k a year for 2 years instead of 300/350k for 1 at glory.


I keep saying "larger" payments, compared to alternatives.

I wouldn't bet he'd be cheap as chips considering the reasons he left Glory.

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paulc wrote:
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Unfortunately, even if Lustica comes really good Mulvey has to justify to the board the contract and larger payments to Miller, so Miller will end up being No1 until his contract runs out for Mickey to save face.

I'm placing my midfield hopes on Lambaridis for next season more than Lustica. I just wish Miller will go away.


Do you know how much Miller is on?


No, do you?

But take note that the reason given for Miller's departure from Glory was because he wanted more money and a term longer than one year. Then bingo, he's at Roar on a 2 year term and a wage, well it's quite reasonable to assume it is to Miller's satisfaction and expectation. It will also be senior player's wage higher than any of the young Aussies used to date including Lustica. All common sense.



I don't, but you keep saying he is on a lot when both of us don't know. Maybe he was willing to take less per year at the Roar in order to get a 2 year deal. Ie 250k a year for 2 years instead of 300/350k for 1 at glory.
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Roar #1 wrote:
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Unfortunately, even if Lustica comes really good Mulvey has to justify to the board the contract and larger payments to Miller, so Miller will end up being No1 until his contract runs out for Mickey to save face.

I'm placing my midfield hopes on Lambaridis for next season more than Lustica. I just wish Miller will go away.


Do you know how much Miller is on?


No, do you?

But take note that the reason given for Miller's departure from Glory was because he wanted more money and a term longer than one year. Then bingo, he's at Roar on a 2 year term and a wage, well it's quite reasonable to assume it is to Miller's satisfaction and expectation. It will also be senior player's wage higher than any of the young Aussies used to date including Lustica. All common sense.



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lbennie wrote:
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Hopefully Lustica gets his form back,because he is here for a while.Miller I think needs game time for confidence before he starts to think about passing forward instead of backwards.If you look at our midfield options,Brattan,McKay,Miller and Lustica are all small,but generally good technically..


I'm on record stating from the outset that Miller doesn't fit the Roar playing culture and so far he has failed to meet that expectation.

I also don't believe he's that technical. You already mentioned how negatively he plays now look at the details. Passes almost always with his instep, unable to control the ball under mediocre pressure, unable to feed clever balls, can't dribble (how can you when he is constantly playing with a straight back and unable to drop his shoulder) etc.

That's why I'm looking forward to see Lambaridis next season as he impressed me in the few times I've seen him. He's certainly got the height we're missing and the skill that is absent from Miller.

Don't hate the guy as some may have asserted but just want what's obviously best for the team.

Edited by paulc: 26/2/2014 02:35:59 PM


My god you speak some shit :lol:

We play like shit when we're missing miller or mckay.
Both have been mainstays in what is, far & away, the best midfield in the league so far.




I know you'll always support uncle Liam but we did very well earlier without Miller earlier in the season when he was injured. It's when the gaffer continues to put two inexperience young defenders in a 3 man mid is when we have issues.
You should read what everyone have said about Miller in these last few posts, that is if uncle Liam has taught you to read.

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paulc wrote:
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Hopefully Lustica gets his form back,because he is here for a while.Miller I think needs game time for confidence before he starts to think about passing forward instead of backwards.If you look at our midfield options,Brattan,McKay,Miller and Lustica are all small,but generally good technically..


I'm on record stating from the outset that Miller doesn't fit the Roar playing culture and so far he has failed to meet that expectation.

I also don't believe he's that technical. You already mentioned how negatively he plays now look at the details. Passes almost always with his instep, unable to control the ball under mediocre pressure, unable to feed clever balls, can't dribble (how can you when he is constantly playing with a straight back and unable to drop his shoulder) etc.

That's why I'm looking forward to see Lambaridis next season as he impressed me in the few times I've seen him. He's certainly got the height we're missing and the skill that is absent from Miller.

Don't hate the guy as some may have asserted but just want what's obviously best for the team.

Edited by paulc: 26/2/2014 02:35:59 PM


My god you speak some shit :lol:

We play like shit when we're missing miller or mckay.
Both have been mainstays in what is, far & away, the best midfield in the league so far.



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paulc wrote:
Unfortunately, even if Lustica comes really good Mulvey has to justify to the board the contract and larger payments to Miller, so Miller will end up being No1 until his contract runs out for Mickey to save face.

I'm placing my midfield hopes on Lambaridis for next season more than Lustica. I just wish Miller will go away.


Do you know how much Miller is on?
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crimsoncrusoe wrote:
Hopefully Lustica gets his form back,because he is here for a while.Miller I think needs game time for confidence before he starts to think about passing forward instead of backwards.If you look at our midfield options,Brattan,McKay,Miller and Lustica are all small,but generally good technically..


I'm on record stating from the outset that Miller doesn't fit the Roar playing culture and so far he has failed to meet that expectation.

I also don't believe he's that technical. You already mentioned how negatively he plays now look at the details. Passes almost always with his instep, unable to control the ball under mediocre pressure, unable to feed clever balls, can't dribble (how can you when he is constantly playing with a straight back and unable to drop his shoulder) etc.

That's why I'm looking forward to see Lambaridis next season as he impressed me in the few times I've seen him. He's certainly got the height we're missing and the skill that is absent from Miller.

Don't hate the guy as some may have asserted but just want what's obviously best for the team.

Edited by paulc: 26/2/2014 02:35:59 PM

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Unfortunately, even if Lustica comes really good Mulvey has to justify to the board the contract and larger payments to Miller, so Miller will end up being No1 until his contract runs out for Mickey to save face.

I'm placing my midfield hopes on Lambaridis for next season more than Lustica. I just wish Miller will go away.

In a resort somewhere

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I think Lustica will come good. He is still getting used to being back at the Roar and maybe still getting over the break up with Adelaide. I thought he was very good during his loan spell with us and added some goals which was great.
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Hopefully Lustica gets his form back,because he is here for a while.Miller I think needs game time for confidence before he starts to think about passing forward instead of backwards.If you look at our midfield options,Brattan,McKay,Miller and Lustica are all small,but generally good technically.They shine when the game is played at a faster pace.When it is slower they tend to pass backwards more and can lose the midfield battle because they get out muscled.WSW,NJ and MH did this.
Roar play best when up front there is a lot of movement (not backwards).
Generally they have no trouble taking the ball down the wings and to the line.In fact teams are happy to let them do that ,because so often the stacked defence forces them to pass back and sideways until they give up and pass the ball to noone and are forced to chase a counter attack.
In my opinion they are too structured sometimes in the front third in these situations and dont take the obvious option of getting the ball into the box from the sides.Once the ball is at some ones feet inside the box ,the defenders can no longer hack at their leasure.Plus with a few of our technically proficient players holding the ball in the box anything can happen.In this respect ,Berisha should be getting in the box but closer to the the ball.Once the ball is at his feet in the box ,its panic stations for the defence.So get him closer to the sides of the box to mix things up.Same for Petratos .
When I watch Roar games I see these opportunities all the time.But so often the front three are predictably spread across the field.If they were compressed to overload one side with others coming from deeper to cover ,when a break was made down a wing,it would be easier to pass their way into the box and draw in defenders away from the center.With Brattan and Franjic positioned more centrally for the pass back,there would be a lot of opportunities for shots on goal.
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clockwork orange wrote:
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Amazing isn't it.

Henrique, Stefanutto and Miller have been given overly generous contracts that should have ended this season at best.

Of the 3 though Henrique can still be an X Factor when he comes on as a sub and therefore makes him a cheap squad player.

The other 2 do nothing.


Miller is a valuable experienced head when McKay and Franjic are absent with the NT. Steffanuto needs to retire gracefully at the end of the season.


Mulvey didn't put cool heads (even though he could have) in midfield when Miller was out. So what's the difference if Mackay and Franjic are not there due to NT duties which would not be many?

However I do agree with you that experience does count and I'd have Miller in ahead of Fereirra, Clut or Lustica this season at least.

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clockwork orange wrote:
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In this respect the midfield failed again.Miller in particular spent most of the time passing backwards when we had the chance to break the last line of defence open.


You know I don't have to say I agree 100% with this :d

Miller basically tries to play it safe all the time given his lack of ball skills and in doing so maintains the status quo and doesn't add value from a proactive or offensive perspective.


:lol: I served that one on a platter, you are slipping.How many minutes did that take?;)


:lol:

But now you got me going (bastard). During the Mick Mulvey press conference he says that his main half time instructions were for the team to keep probing in the final third because they were not doing enough of it. Now if this was his main attack plan then why didn't he change something at half time like replacing Miller, the main culprit who constantly plays negatively contrary to what Mulvey expects of his players? Why wait until well after the first goal was conceded before doing something?

There's been some main problems not just vs Heart but Newcastle also as well as WSW before that. That's 3 games.

I'm not happy I tell ya, not at all.

I think Miller needs to be replaced with a proper creative no. 10. We have lacked one ever since Nichols left. We need somebody to take the burden off Broich who at present seems to be our only creative outlet.


Hingert/Donachie to RB, Franjic to RM for Miller, Petratos to RW for henrique. Both Petratos and Franjic can score goals and create them. Henrique and Miller do not have those qualities.

Personally I think its a no brainer and it peeves me a little to see Henrique start every week ahead of Dimi.

Agreed. Dimi's close control and shooting ability shits all over Henrique's. IMO it's time to let Henrique go.


How quickly we forget the Jets game ... where we barely created a chance till Henrique replaced Petratos who started and had done nothing. :oops:



We still didnt win. Sure henrique may do some good things, But his fuck ups and turn overs by far out weigh the good he does. He has missed 2/3 tap ins, a header from 6 yards, 2 badly missed placed passes the could/ should have leaded to a goal, a number of scuffed shots, just this season off the top of my head. Sure its ok to make mistakes but he doesnt make up for them with a goal or assist later on
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paulc wrote:
Amazing isn't it.

Henrique, Stefanutto and Miller have been given overly generous contracts that should have ended this season at best.

Of the 3 though Henrique can still be an X Factor when he comes on as a sub and therefore makes him a cheap squad player.

The other 2 do nothing.


Miller is a valuable experienced head when McKay and Franjic are absent with the NT. Steffanuto needs to retire gracefully at the end of the season.
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YerNathanael wrote:
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YerNathanael wrote:
paulc wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
paulc wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
In this respect the midfield failed again.Miller in particular spent most of the time passing backwards when we had the chance to break the last line of defence open.


You know I don't have to say I agree 100% with this :d

Miller basically tries to play it safe all the time given his lack of ball skills and in doing so maintains the status quo and doesn't add value from a proactive or offensive perspective.


:lol: I served that one on a platter, you are slipping.How many minutes did that take?;)


:lol:

But now you got me going (bastard). During the Mick Mulvey press conference he says that his main half time instructions were for the team to keep probing in the final third because they were not doing enough of it. Now if this was his main attack plan then why didn't he change something at half time like replacing Miller, the main culprit who constantly plays negatively contrary to what Mulvey expects of his players? Why wait until well after the first goal was conceded before doing something?

There's been some main problems not just vs Heart but Newcastle also as well as WSW before that. That's 3 games.

I'm not happy I tell ya, not at all.

I think Miller needs to be replaced with a proper creative no. 10. We have lacked one ever since Nichols left. We need somebody to take the burden off Broich who at present seems to be our only creative outlet.


Hingert/Donachie to RB, Franjic to RM for Miller, Petratos to RW for henrique. Both Petratos and Franjic can score goals and create them. Henrique and Miller do not have those qualities.

Personally I think its a no brainer and it peeves me a little to see Henrique start every week ahead of Dimi.

Agreed. Dimi's close control and shooting ability shits all over Henrique's. IMO it's time to let Henrique go.


How quickly we forget the Jets game ... where we barely created a chance till Henrique replaced Petratos who started and had done nothing. :oops:


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Amazing isn't it.

Henrique, Stefanutto and Miller have been given overly generous contracts that should have ended this season at best.

Of the 3 though Henrique can still be an X Factor when he comes on as a sub and therefore makes him a cheap squad player.

The other 2 do nothing.

In a resort somewhere

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YerNathanael wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
YerNathanael wrote:
paulc wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
paulc wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
In this respect the midfield failed again.Miller in particular spent most of the time passing backwards when we had the chance to break the last line of defence open.


You know I don't have to say I agree 100% with this :d

Miller basically tries to play it safe all the time given his lack of ball skills and in doing so maintains the status quo and doesn't add value from a proactive or offensive perspective.


:lol: I served that one on a platter, you are slipping.How many minutes did that take?;)


:lol:

But now you got me going (bastard). During the Mick Mulvey press conference he says that his main half time instructions were for the team to keep probing in the final third because they were not doing enough of it. Now if this was his main attack plan then why didn't he change something at half time like replacing Miller, the main culprit who constantly plays negatively contrary to what Mulvey expects of his players? Why wait until well after the first goal was conceded before doing something?

There's been some main problems not just vs Heart but Newcastle also as well as WSW before that. That's 3 games.

I'm not happy I tell ya, not at all.

I think Miller needs to be replaced with a proper creative no. 10. We have lacked one ever since Nichols left. We need somebody to take the burden off Broich who at present seems to be our only creative outlet.


Hingert/Donachie to RB, Franjic to RM for Miller, Petratos to RW for henrique. Both Petratos and Franjic can score goals and create them. Henrique and Miller do not have those qualities.

Personally I think its a no brainer and it peeves me a little to see Henrique start every week ahead of Dimi.

Agreed. Dimi's close control and shooting ability shits all over Henrique's. IMO it's time to let Henrique go.


I totally agree about letting Henrique go. He doesnt have the speed that he used to and I think he just isnt up to the standard anymore. But I feel like he still has 1 or 2 years to go on his contract after this season, which is a shame.
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Roar #1 wrote:
YerNathanael wrote:
paulc wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
paulc wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
In this respect the midfield failed again.Miller in particular spent most of the time passing backwards when we had the chance to break the last line of defence open.


You know I don't have to say I agree 100% with this :d

Miller basically tries to play it safe all the time given his lack of ball skills and in doing so maintains the status quo and doesn't add value from a proactive or offensive perspective.


:lol: I served that one on a platter, you are slipping.How many minutes did that take?;)


:lol:

But now you got me going (bastard). During the Mick Mulvey press conference he says that his main half time instructions were for the team to keep probing in the final third because they were not doing enough of it. Now if this was his main attack plan then why didn't he change something at half time like replacing Miller, the main culprit who constantly plays negatively contrary to what Mulvey expects of his players? Why wait until well after the first goal was conceded before doing something?

There's been some main problems not just vs Heart but Newcastle also as well as WSW before that. That's 3 games.

I'm not happy I tell ya, not at all.

I think Miller needs to be replaced with a proper creative no. 10. We have lacked one ever since Nichols left. We need somebody to take the burden off Broich who at present seems to be our only creative outlet.


Hingert/Donachie to RB, Franjic to RM for Miller, Petratos to RW for henrique. Both Petratos and Franjic can score goals and create them. Henrique and Miller do not have those qualities.

Personally I think its a no brainer and it peeves me a little to see Henrique start every week ahead of Dimi.

Agreed. Dimi's close control and shooting ability shits all over Henrique's. IMO it's time to let Henrique go.
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YerNathanael wrote:
paulc wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
paulc wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
In this respect the midfield failed again.Miller in particular spent most of the time passing backwards when we had the chance to break the last line of defence open.


You know I don't have to say I agree 100% with this :d

Miller basically tries to play it safe all the time given his lack of ball skills and in doing so maintains the status quo and doesn't add value from a proactive or offensive perspective.


:lol: I served that one on a platter, you are slipping.How many minutes did that take?;)


:lol:

But now you got me going (bastard). During the Mick Mulvey press conference he says that his main half time instructions were for the team to keep probing in the final third because they were not doing enough of it. Now if this was his main attack plan then why didn't he change something at half time like replacing Miller, the main culprit who constantly plays negatively contrary to what Mulvey expects of his players? Why wait until well after the first goal was conceded before doing something?

There's been some main problems not just vs Heart but Newcastle also as well as WSW before that. That's 3 games.

I'm not happy I tell ya, not at all.

I think Miller needs to be replaced with a proper creative no. 10. We have lacked one ever since Nichols left. We need somebody to take the burden off Broich who at present seems to be our only creative outlet.


Hingert/Donachie to RB, Franjic to RM for Miller, Petratos to RW for henrique. Both Petratos and Franjic can score goals and create them. Henrique and Miller do not have those qualities.

Personally I think its a no brainer and it peeves me a little to see Henrique start every week ahead of Dimi.
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