We would have a 16 team league (14 Aus teams) with derbies in all major markets.

South Melb have been itching to get a licence.Personally after giving it some thought,as long as they can fund a licence it would be good timing to finally get them in.
I believe there would be great publicity and interest from everyone connected with football.
I would imagine decent crowds wherever they played and rivalries developed quickly.
In Melbourne there would surely be big games between them and MV and MC.
Even in Sydney I imagine there would be big games.
So what is the major impediment?
(Probably should be a separate thread)

Edited by crimsoncrusoe: 6/11/2015 04:22:31 PM

What type of crowds does south Melbourne currently get to their games?

Greek mostly

Edited by bohemia: 7/11/2015 02:42:03 AM

I figured :lol: but how many ?

Gold Coast > NZ teams

More and more it's looking like (and correctly so) the clubs will come from where the fish will be.

Wrong

Perth has been fastest growing capital for a while and is nearly same size as Brisbane.

Queensland state league outfit Palm Beach Sharks is set to change its name to Gold Coast City in an attempt to join an expanded National Youth League and, perhaps one day, the A-League.

The move by Palm Beach, last year's National Premier Leagues Queensland champions and two-time participants in the FFA Cup, is part of a strategy to garner broader support across the region and galvanise the football and business communities behind the club.

It has already won approval from Football Queensland to make the change but will run it past members at a meeting on Tuesday night.

The Gold Coast City name is not new, as the club, established in 1966, went by the same moniker while previously competing in other Brisbane and state competitions.

While an A-League licence is a far longer term goal, a more realistic proposition is entry into the NYL, which it's understood Football Federation Australia is considering expanding as it attempts to broaden its base of elite-level juniors.

The Gold Coast, which remains the biggest market in the country without an A-League presence, has already been discussed as a possible addition.

The NYL, which kicks off this weekend, has been condensed this season into a 10-game, two-conference structure, which could easily accommodate new teams and allow FFA to examine them closely as possible future A-League expansion candidates.

Football powerbrokers on the Gold Coast have been quietly working in the background to ensure the health of the grassroots game didn't suffer for the ugly demise of A-League club Gold Coast United in 2012, and have united behind Palm Beach, believing the NYL is an option worth exploring.

However, the crux of their plan is to entrench Gold Coast City as a powerhouse at state-league level and as a business, using the FFA Cup to build a level of national prominence, before pursuing any loftier ambitions such as the A-League.


http://www.ninemsn.com.au/article/9050140#s0kTdxTi6vURWUWG.99

To get a clearer picture you need to look at the numbers of people living there and playing/watching the game. Although our newspapers love using them for a bit of state or city rivalry, percentage growth statistics aren't really useful in that regard.

Also keep in mind that as far as raw population counts go, Perth's statistical area runs 160kms North-South. If Brisbane's was the same it'd include all of the Gold Coast and quite a lot of the Sunshine Coast.

Exciting stuff from Palm Beach, although I do wonder if the rest of the Gold Coast football community will get behind it; I remember a right ferfuffle when Palm Beach were awarded inaugural NPLQ membership ahead of a joint bid.

the nyl can take another 6 clubs under the new format making it 8 teams per conference

North Conference
W'gong Wolves
???
South Sydney

South Conference
Sth Mel
Gold Coast City Sharks
???

Or even more, it'd be an easy and cheap way to expand the talent pool and test new options and areas for expansion.

The goalposts tend to move around when defining a market. Population is enough to call Melbourne a large market despite having bugger all player numbers, but not enough for Perth?

I understand your point wrt the geographical spread of cities - if Adelaide counted its greater adelaide/hills regions to be consistent with the geographical catchment applied to sydney then it would have a population approaching 1.5 million. But these boundaries seem prone to moving around depending on who's arguing for what.

South Melb have been itching to get a licence.Personally after giving it some thought,as long as they can fund a licence it would be good timing to finally get them in.
I believe there would be great publicity and interest from everyone connected with football.
I would imagine decent crowds wherever they played and rivalries developed quickly.
In Melbourne there would surely be big games between them and MV and MC.
Even in Sydney I imagine there would be big games.
So what is the major impediment?
(Probably should be a separate thread)

Edited by crimsoncrusoe: 6/11/2015 04:22:31 PM

The ABS already counts the Adelaide Hills region as part of Adelaide's population.

not really when they have to fit in NPl commitments, 6 new clubs would be the max

Greater Adelaide isn't just the hills, and no it doesn't.

The northern boundary of the Adelaide GCCSA has been extended northwards to contain Gawler, Roseworthy and Two Wells. The eastern boundary of the Adelaide GCCSA includes a larger area of the Adelaide Hills, and towns such as Mt Barker and Lobethal are now included in the GCCSA.

the nyl can take another 6 clubs under the new format making it 8 teams per conference

North Conference
W'gong Wolves
???
South Sydney

South Conference
Sth Mel
Gold Coast City Sharks
???

Here's my idea for a B-League, basically ready to go for next season.

LEAGUE STRUCTURE

12 Team B-League split into two conferences.
The top 6 Victorian teams will be in the 'Victorian' Conference.
The top 6 NSW Teams will be in the 'NSW' Conference.

Teams will play teams from their conference twice.
Teams will play teams from the other conference once.
The season will consist of 16 regular season rounds and a grand final between the conference champions held at the leading point scorer's home ground.

PROMOTION AND RELEGATION

The state champions from Victoria/NSW will replace the wooden-spooners from the relevant conference.

Season from September to December.
Teams promoted from State Leagues will have 12 months to prepare for the B-League
Teams relegated from State Leagues will have 3 months to prepare for State Leagues.

OPERATIONS IMPACT

B-League junior clubs in the NPL system will continue to play in the system uninterrupted only the senior team will experience changes to their season as per promotion/relegation.

BENEFIT TO A-LEAGUE

The B-League will help bridge the gap between A-League and State Leagues, improving the player and coaching talent pool.
A-League teams will be able to loan players to the B-League for the start of the A-League season.
A-League teams will be able to sign in form B-League players in the January transfer window.

What's the point if it only involves clubs from 2 states? Isn't really an improvement from what currently happens

They'll be immediate scope for a "national conference" representing SA/QLD too. I stuck to NSW/VIC for now for the following reasons:

1. For the sake of getting a financially sound second division up in the first place.
2. Victoria and NSW have traditionally been the strongest footballing states.
3. Reduced travel costs

Edited by SoccerLogic: 8/11/2015 08:41:07 PM

I understand what you're getting at, I just don't think it really improves the current system.

And I think the Queensland clubs results in the FFA cup have somewhat dispelled the myth that Sydney and Melbourne clubs are considerably better.

What's the point if it only involves clubs from 2 states? Isn't really an improvement from what currently happens