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+x+x+x+x+x+xSounds like they're really just marketing the sale of a stake in the APL and giving you a free shirt (colour of your choice) with it Pretty much aiming for "MLS lite" status...... Chasing 150 million over the next few years .... good luck to them, hope it all fails in a steaming pile of garbage. There is some seriously delusional thinking out there. We've all seen the TV metrics. They are abysmal. Who on the earth would stump up 25 mill when it is impossible to see how anything broadcaster will pick up the next tv tights deal? I'm as concerned as anyone that, unless things turn around dramatically in the next three years (and the GF decision isn't helping), the next TV deal is going to be a massive cold shower for the APL. But I would say that international ownership groups aren't focussed so much on broadcast income. They'd more be looking to harvest players and on-sell them to overseas clubs. Which to be frank A-League clubs could get a lot better at doing. Our players have tended to be criminally under-valued, for a variety of reasons, including the absence of domestic transfers, prevalence of short-term contracts, a short season in the summer heat with relatively few games and the absence of relegation meaning the stakes of games are low. But it's also down to clubs not understanding well how the international transfer market works, and so they're just leaving money on the table. Fortunately this seems to be changing of late, e.g. Melbourne City getting $2m for Bos. If more internationally-owned clubs invest in academies, sell players to Europe for decent coin and then invest the proceeds back into the game, then that is a good thing for the league. It's an income stream the other codes don't have and can enable the A-League to close the gap with them financially. MLS, incidentally, was in the same boat but they're starting to learn how to work the transfer market. Almiron sold from Atlanta to Newcastle for £20m, and Castellanos looks like he will be going for €15m to Benfica (from New York City). We might not be able to command those kinds of fees but if clubs can start selling players for millions rather than hundreds of thousands that can make a big difference to their bottom line. Amazing if it is actually the case.... What incentive would a foreign corporation have in doing this though... as long as the "production line" of players is streaming one way (out of Australia) what would they care? So they can sign more players and sell them on too? It sounds cold-blooded but that is football economics in the modern day world, unfortunately. Granted your right but they don't need to do anything more than set up an "Academy" and poach existing youth players from around Australia to do that... They dont need a strong football league (below the Aleague) nor a strong national team.... They can get a strong 15-16 year old into their "system" play him/gher up a year level in the NPL, give him/her a season or two of Aleague and then sell....
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Getting close now ..... should hear the news soon....
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Is Canberra still coming in to the a-league its gone dead quiet.
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+xIs Canberra still coming in to the a-league its gone dead quiet. I heard a wild rumour that the inaugural Canberra coach will be Ufuk Talay
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On NZ TV news last night (geoblocked), in a report on building on WWC momentum, NZ Football chairman Andrew Pragnell talked about how excited he was about the upcoming September announcement of Auckland A-League men's and women's teams. But I can see no reporting on this anywhere else.
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+xOn NZ TV news last night (geoblocked), in a report on building on WWC momentum, NZ Football chairman Andrew Pragnell talked about how excited he was about the upcoming September announcement of Auckland A-League men's and women's teams. But I can see no reporting on this anywhere else. Good news for Auckland fans....
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Hopefully it is true and Canberra is also on track too, as we need some more good news. Must say though that the WWC may well be doing well in terms of interest, but it hasn’t really delivered much in the way of investment yet, other than the Home of the Matildas in Melbourne. Hopefully there is more govt investment to come in the game, along with A-league expansion/new owners and the NSD
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Townsend also confirmed that Auckland’s entry into the 2024-25 A-League was likely to be confirmed by the end of the week after Football Australia ratified the entry of a second New Zealand club into the competition. However, the addition of a Canberra club to the 2024-25 men’s A-League competition won’t be confirmed until after the start of the upcoming season. https://www.news.com.au/sport/football/fans-to-enjoy-better-understanding-of-var-decisions-in-new-aleague-mens-season/news-story/4e243f0f0a9bca0622ead67a31581b9f
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What's going on with Canberra?
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+xWhat's going on with Canberra? Told everyone already, ACT Gov doesn't want anything here but AFL, so they're dragging their feet on any government support, and the Canberra team ain't happening without a bit of input from them.
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+x+xWhat's going on with Canberra? Told everyone already, ACT Gov doesn't want anything here but AFL, so they're dragging their feet on any government support, and the Canberra team ain't happening without a bit of input from them. That sounds a bit odd. They support the Brumbies and the Raiders so why wont they support an A-League club?
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+x+x+xWhat's going on with Canberra? Told everyone already, ACT Gov doesn't want anything here but AFL, so they're dragging their feet on any government support, and the Canberra team ain't happening without a bit of input from them. That sounds a bit odd. They support the Brumbies and the Raiders so why wont they support an A-League club? Neither needed to cut a 25 million cheque to get in
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+x+x+xWhat's going on with Canberra? Told everyone already, ACT Gov doesn't want anything here but AFL, so they're dragging their feet on any government support, and the Canberra team ain't happening without a bit of input from them. That sounds a bit odd. They support the Brumbies and the Raiders so why wont they support an A-League club? +x+x+x+xWhat's going on with Canberra? Told everyone already, ACT Gov doesn't want anything here but AFL, so they're dragging their feet on any government support, and the Canberra team ain't happening without a bit of input from them. That sounds a bit odd. They support the Brumbies and the Raiders so why wont they support an A-League club? Neither needed to cut a 25 million cheque to get in They also were there before Andrew Barr took control of the ACT government. He only took over the leadership just before the Asian Cup, and probably would have done a Dan Andrews / Comm Games on that if he could have, considering he didn't put Canberra forward as a host for the Women's World Cup, when he is the probably one of the biggest "Diversity Kings" I've ever seen in government.
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WTF is going on with Canberra? The last thing we need is a 13 team league next year.
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+xWTF is going on with Canberra? The last thing we need is a 13 team league next year. Jets are looking a little shaky may only be a 12 team league yet?
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+xWTF is going on with Canberra? The last thing we need is a 13 team league next year. No one wants to spend the money in Australia. Hence, rescue packages for existing clubs taking priority (it's cheaper for the new owners)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCW5oCd6vScInterview with Tasmania Jackjumpers CEO on success. I've not watched this but the following video has some reports on team success in different sports and areas. It doesn't go into the depth of the delicate topic. I do find we've missed the boat and a green yellow kit for Tasmania FC would've been awesome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wVFn2m5Bpk
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Football Tasmania have said they want an A-League team by 2028 https://youtu.be/viFvOY0trfI?si=VQOt0PD_7g28DitS
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They better get in quick, there wont be anymore broadcast revenue past 2025.
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Not sure that's what was said, I heard ' An A-League team' being wafted around as inspiration to get 3 regional academies up and running Would explain why FT are poopooing the NSD bid from South Hobart Also note Pignata saying the A-league was the reason he came to Tasmania, despite starting the video saying this whole thing was the result of consultations with clubs done in March.
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MemberUpdateDear NicCarBel,I wantedto write to you with an update on the Canberra A-League project as we havereached a critical stage.With theA-League Men’s competition set to expand to 14 teams in 2025-26, my team and Ihave been working hard behind the scenes to finalise the investment that willensure Canberra fills the final available spot.Thisfunding will not only complete a 7-year journey we have all been on together tobring a professional Men’s team to the capital region, it will also secure thefuture of our beloved Canberra United Women’s team.We are currentlyin active conversations with a number of interested investors for the Canberralicence, and are at a critical juncture where the strength of the Canberraproposition will be decisive in whether we achieve a successful outcome.We are close. Wehave some impressive investors on the cusp of signing on the dotted line,including the potential of a revolutionary partnership with a top-tier Europeanclub that will bring substantial expertise and resources to Canberra and to theA-League. These investorsadd to the formidable management team with experience from major teams andleagues in Europe, along with their strong vision and strategy to connectCanberra more closely to the global football ecosystem. This will ensure thebest chance of success for our club and new possibilities for football inAustralia, and is a key attraction to the investors and to the A-Leagues.The AustralianProfessional Leagues group that runs theA-Leagues is working closely with us,and is excited by the vision and the progress that has been made.We just need onelast push.I was encouragedmid-week to read that Andrew Barr had committed to providing $3 million peryear into a Canberra Big Bash franchise. Canberra is a growing city so it’sonly right that its sports and entertainment ventures grow with it.However,there is a risk football gets left behind as it has so often in the past.As a footballfamily, we know that nationally, football has never had its fair share ofgovernment funding when compared to some other sporting codes. For example, theAustralian Sports Commission Annual Report shows in 2021-22, football received$7.9m in funding, compared to $10.7m for athletics, $8.0m for basketball, $9.8mfor hockey and $9.6m for sailing. Despite our game being far and away thenation’s biggest participation sport.While we supportinvestment into all Canberra sports teams, an A-Leagues club in Canberra stacksup on every front with a Big Bash team. According to YouGov, there are 217kpeople in the ACT who either play or follow football, which is almost half thepopulation and 10% more than cricket. We also know that an A-Leagues club wouldbe the only spring / summer tenant at a new rectangular stadium, and ourcurrent GIO stadium.Amatching $3 million per year commitment from local Government would go a longway to again demonstrating the commitment of Andrew Barr and the City tofinally get us the team we have waited so long for.It could almostcertainly be a deciding factor in locking in the last investment needed tosecure the future of Canberra United and bring an A-League Men’s team toCanberra.---Paywalled, but - ACT government funding crucial for Canberra A-League bid | The Canberra Times | Canberra, ACT
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+xMemberUpdateDear NicCarBel,I wantedto write to you with an update on the Canberra A-League project as we havereached a critical stage.With theA-League Men’s competition set to expand to 14 teams in 2025-26, my team and Ihave been working hard behind the scenes to finalise the investment that willensure Canberra fills the final available spot.Thisfunding will not only complete a 7-year journey we have all been on together tobring a professional Men’s team to the capital region, it will also secure thefuture of our beloved Canberra United Women’s team.We are currentlyin active conversations with a number of interested investors for the Canberralicence, and are at a critical juncture where the strength of the Canberraproposition will be decisive in whether we achieve a successful outcome.We are close. Wehave some impressive investors on the cusp of signing on the dotted line,including the potential of a revolutionary partnership with a top-tier Europeanclub that will bring substantial expertise and resources to Canberra and to theA-League. These investorsadd to the formidable management team with experience from major teams andleagues in Europe, along with their strong vision and strategy to connectCanberra more closely to the global football ecosystem. This will ensure thebest chance of success for our club and new possibilities for football inAustralia, and is a key attraction to the investors and to the A-Leagues.The AustralianProfessional Leagues group that runs theA-Leagues is working closely with us,and is excited by the vision and the progress that has been made.We just need onelast push.I was encouragedmid-week to read that Andrew Barr had committed to providing $3 million peryear into a Canberra Big Bash franchise. Canberra is a growing city so it’sonly right that its sports and entertainment ventures grow with it.However,there is a risk football gets left behind as it has so often in the past.As a footballfamily, we know that nationally, football has never had its fair share ofgovernment funding when compared to some other sporting codes. For example, theAustralian Sports Commission Annual Report shows in 2021-22, football received$7.9m in funding, compared to $10.7m for athletics, $8.0m for basketball, $9.8mfor hockey and $9.6m for sailing. Despite our game being far and away thenation’s biggest participation sport.While we supportinvestment into all Canberra sports teams, an A-Leagues club in Canberra stacksup on every front with a Big Bash team. According to YouGov, there are 217kpeople in the ACT who either play or follow football, which is almost half thepopulation and 10% more than cricket. We also know that an A-Leagues club wouldbe the only spring / summer tenant at a new rectangular stadium, and ourcurrent GIO stadium.Amatching $3 million per year commitment from local Government would go a longway to again demonstrating the commitment of Andrew Barr and the City tofinally get us the team we have waited so long for.It could almostcertainly be a deciding factor in locking in the last investment needed tosecure the future of Canberra United and bring an A-League Men’s team toCanberra.---Paywalled, but - ACT government funding crucial for Canberra A-League bid | The Canberra Times | Canberra, ACT What a fucking joke Andrew Barr is - umming and ahhing and putting the ALW side in Canberra under limbo over $200,000 - but commits $3m annually to a cricket team (5 games per year ) just because it’s going to use his Manuka Oval baby. Quite certain the ACT gov funding towards GWS Giants 3+1 deal (3 games plus 1 ALW Game) is around the same amount. In comparison, only $1.2m committed (in principle) by the ACT gov towards the A-League bid (which includes the aforementioned $200,000 for ALW)
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+x+xMemberUpdateDear NicCarBel,I wantedto write to you with an update on the Canberra A-League project as we havereached a critical stage.With theA-League Men’s competition set to expand to 14 teams in 2025-26, my team and Ihave been working hard behind the scenes to finalise the investment that willensure Canberra fills the final available spot.Thisfunding will not only complete a 7-year journey we have all been on together tobring a professional Men’s team to the capital region, it will also secure thefuture of our beloved Canberra United Women’s team.We are currentlyin active conversations with a number of interested investors for the Canberralicence, and are at a critical juncture where the strength of the Canberraproposition will be decisive in whether we achieve a successful outcome.We are close. Wehave some impressive investors on the cusp of signing on the dotted line,including the potential of a revolutionary partnership with a top-tier Europeanclub that will bring substantial expertise and resources to Canberra and to theA-League. These investorsadd to the formidable management team with experience from major teams andleagues in Europe, along with their strong vision and strategy to connectCanberra more closely to the global football ecosystem. This will ensure thebest chance of success for our club and new possibilities for football inAustralia, and is a key attraction to the investors and to the A-Leagues.The AustralianProfessional Leagues group that runs theA-Leagues is working closely with us,and is excited by the vision and the progress that has been made.We just need onelast push.I was encouragedmid-week to read that Andrew Barr had committed to providing $3 million peryear into a Canberra Big Bash franchise. Canberra is a growing city so it’sonly right that its sports and entertainment ventures grow with it.However,there is a risk football gets left behind as it has so often in the past.As a footballfamily, we know that nationally, football has never had its fair share ofgovernment funding when compared to some other sporting codes. For example, theAustralian Sports Commission Annual Report shows in 2021-22, football received$7.9m in funding, compared to $10.7m for athletics, $8.0m for basketball, $9.8mfor hockey and $9.6m for sailing. Despite our game being far and away thenation’s biggest participation sport.While we supportinvestment into all Canberra sports teams, an A-Leagues club in Canberra stacksup on every front with a Big Bash team. According to YouGov, there are 217kpeople in the ACT who either play or follow football, which is almost half thepopulation and 10% more than cricket. We also know that an A-Leagues club wouldbe the only spring / summer tenant at a new rectangular stadium, and ourcurrent GIO stadium.Amatching $3 million per year commitment from local Government would go a longway to again demonstrating the commitment of Andrew Barr and the City tofinally get us the team we have waited so long for.It could almostcertainly be a deciding factor in locking in the last investment needed tosecure the future of Canberra United and bring an A-League Men’s team toCanberra.---Paywalled, but - ACT government funding crucial for Canberra A-League bid | The Canberra Times | Canberra, ACT What a fucking joke Andrew Barr is - umming and ahhing and putting the ALW side in Canberra under limbo over $200,000 - but commits $3m annually to a cricket team (5 games per year ) just because it’s going to use his Manuka Oval baby. Quite certain the ACT gov funding towards GWS Giants 3+1 deal (3 games plus 1 ALW Game) is around the same amount. In comparison, only $1.2m committed (in principle) by the ACT gov towards the A-League bid (which includes the aforementioned $200,000 for ALW) That sucks for ACT dude, typical of all state govs though.
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Can I ask the question, why does the A-League need to expand? Personally I think 10 teams is fine, anything over 12 is pushing it. I'm for pro / rel (even though I think it will never happen) and I think creating franchises year after year is unsustainable. I understand having a NZ team but I'm not particularly for it, why does Canberra need a team? I know they have a women's team in the A-League W but I am completely unaware of them and npl capital football.
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+xCan I ask the question, why does the A-League need to expand? Personally I think 10 teams is fine, anything over 12 is pushing it. I'm for pro / rel (even though I think it will never happen) and I think creating franchises year after year is unsustainable. I understand having a NZ team but I'm not particularly for it, why does Canberra need a team? I know they have a women's team in the A-League W but I am completely unaware of them and npl capital football. mostly to get the season length up probably also helps to have more pathways
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+x+xCan I ask the question, why does the A-League need to expand? Personally I think 10 teams is fine, anything over 12 is pushing it. I'm for pro / rel (even though I think it will never happen) and I think creating franchises year after year is unsustainable. I understand having a NZ team but I'm not particularly for it, why does Canberra need a team? I know they have a women's team in the A-League W but I am completely unaware of them and npl capital football. mostly to get the season length up probably also helps to have more pathways Ah more pathways didn't think of that, makes sense tbh. Am I dense or would playing another team 3-4 times in a season work (Hint MLB)? Is there something logistical I'm over seeing?
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+x+x+xCan I ask the question, why does the A-League need to expand? Personally I think 10 teams is fine, anything over 12 is pushing it. I'm for pro / rel (even though I think it will never happen) and I think creating franchises year after year is unsustainable. I understand having a NZ team but I'm not particularly for it, why does Canberra need a team? I know they have a women's team in the A-League W but I am completely unaware of them and npl capital football. mostly to get the season length up probably also helps to have more pathways Ah more pathways didn't think of that, makes sense tbh. Am I dense or would playing another team 3-4 times in a season work (Hint MLB)? Is there something logistical I'm over seeing? Not sure, the might be worried about losing money on match day, so extra rounds might cost too much. Dont see how that is fixed by expansion mind u
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+x+x+x+xCan I ask the question, why does the A-League need to expand? Personally I think 10 teams is fine, anything over 12 is pushing it. I'm for pro / rel (even though I think it will never happen) and I think creating franchises year after year is unsustainable. I understand having a NZ team but I'm not particularly for it, why does Canberra need a team? I know they have a women's team in the A-League W but I am completely unaware of them and npl capital football. mostly to get the season length up probably also helps to have more pathways Ah more pathways didn't think of that, makes sense tbh. Am I dense or would playing another team 3-4 times in a season work (Hint MLB)? Is there something logistical I'm over seeing? Not sure, the might be worried about losing money on match day, so extra rounds might cost too much. Dont see how that is fixed by expansion mind u Yeah I think they would loose money (but football is a money pit), I was thinking that if u had a 10-12 team league and you played each other 3 or 4 times a season that would kind of equal out to or go over how many games we play in a season. But there would be no point in that if it was 14+ teams. Wouldn't they loose money anyway paying for travel anyway (in a 14 team league)? I wonder what would be more 'cost effective' (14 teams vs 10 with series(s))?
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+x+x+x+x+xCan I ask the question, why does the A-League need to expand? Personally I think 10 teams is fine, anything over 12 is pushing it. I'm for pro / rel (even though I think it will never happen) and I think creating franchises year after year is unsustainable. I understand having a NZ team but I'm not particularly for it, why does Canberra need a team? I know they have a women's team in the A-League W but I am completely unaware of them and npl capital football. mostly to get the season length up probably also helps to have more pathways Ah more pathways didn't think of that, makes sense tbh. Am I dense or would playing another team 3-4 times in a season work (Hint MLB)? Is there something logistical I'm over seeing? Not sure, the might be worried about losing money on match day, so extra rounds might cost too much. Dont see how that is fixed by expansion mind u Yeah I think they would loose money (but football is a money pit), I was thinking that if u had a 10-12 team league and you played each other 3 or 4 times a season that would kind of equal out to or go over how many games we play in a season. But there would be no point in that if it was 14+ teams. Wouldn't they loose money anyway paying for travel anyway (in a 14 team league)? I wonder what would be more 'cost effective' (14 teams vs 10 with series(s))? Mls have done a good job at keeping the season a minimum length despite having lots of different sized leagues each year. There definitely needs to be pressure to make the season l9nger
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+x+x+x+x+x+xCan I ask the question, why does the A-League need to expand? Personally I think 10 teams is fine, anything over 12 is pushing it. I'm for pro / rel (even though I think it will never happen) and I think creating franchises year after year is unsustainable. I understand having a NZ team but I'm not particularly for it, why does Canberra need a team? I know they have a women's team in the A-League W but I am completely unaware of them and npl capital football. mostly to get the season length up probably also helps to have more pathways Ah more pathways didn't think of that, makes sense tbh. Am I dense or would playing another team 3-4 times in a season work (Hint MLB)? Is there something logistical I'm over seeing? Not sure, the might be worried about losing money on match day, so extra rounds might cost too much. Dont see how that is fixed by expansion mind u Yeah I think they would loose money (but football is a money pit), I was thinking that if u had a 10-12 team league and you played each other 3 or 4 times a season that would kind of equal out to or go over how many games we play in a season. But there would be no point in that if it was 14+ teams. Wouldn't they loose money anyway paying for travel anyway (in a 14 team league)? I wonder what would be more 'cost effective' (14 teams vs 10 with series(s))? Mls have done a good job at keeping the season a minimum length despite having lots of different sized leagues each year. There definitely needs to be pressure to make the season l9nger Are you suggesting conferences ? Interesting ....
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