Of course, until recently homosexuality was bary tolerated.

Doesn't mean we can't change the definition to reflect the views of 2014.

who's views?

What does redbull give you then?

a) I'm not a homosexual.

b) I wasn't comparing gay rights to racial rights, only using an example of how legal and/or constitutional definitions can and do change over time.


But way to make yourself lose credibility. Someone doesn't agree with your stance on gay rights and suddenly they must be a homosexual.

And there it is right there.

People on this forum just confirming to everybody else that they are nothing but an ignorant, pathetic, insecure homophobe.

Please crawl back under your rocks. The world no longer tolerates your viewpoints.

I'm done here.

Its 2014 FFS.

well if you're not a homosexual, then who are you to speak for them?

:lol: oh god, I'm not even going to argue with you.

And fwiw, I was in no way speaking for "them".

You MUST be a troll.

naming calling = bullying in 2014
i'd be careful if i were you, such activities could land you in jail

a wise move, since i've obliterated every one of your positions on this matter

:lol: ok mate. You haven't obliterated anything, I just didn't want to get into an internet argument.

Obviously it was a good decision as you have some growing up to do.

perhaps i need to watch dopey documentaries made by comedians to get educated about places i've never been like you

:lol: because I've said that's what I've based all my views on?

As I said before, grow up and get your head out of the clouds.

Perhaps you need to take your own advice. Since being destroyed on the topic at hand you've now turned to making it personal. This not exactly the high road of maturity.

How have I made it personal? You were the one insisting that I'm gay (not that I see that as a bad thing) and keep insisting I've said Stephen Fry's documentary is the basis of my beliefs when I've only ever said it was a good watch.

And you keep insisting you destroyed me when you didn't as it hasn't changed my view on the issue.

Inb4 people use this to strawman anyone against gay marriage... Oh wait.

Dis thread.

Ricecrackers brand of argumentation right out of the Chomsky notebook:

"Now turning to the facts, ...."

:oops:

Edited by humbert: 2/3/2014 10:36:37 PM

how quickly the mob turns to personal attacks and posting childish gif images once out-pointed on a topic
really elevating the discussion :roll:

But they can't even have a civil union because of their sexual preference. I thought marriage was meant to be about love. It's discrimination.

This is another reason why Christianity has completely f*cked the world. It's roots are entwined through western legal systems and every religious idiot against these unions is too arrogant to see it. I wish Constantine I was executed before he brought Christianity to power.

Sorry, but I resent that. Yes there should be a way to recognise homosexual union, but if you're implying that marriage is about discrimination, then you're off your rocker.

It's also worth noting that some Christian groups are some of the biggest supporters of homosexual union.

Marriage is about love between two consenting adults not what man thinks God approves of.

It's clearly discrimination. They cannot get married because of their sexual orientation. How is it not discrimination?

If marriage is defined as love between a man and a woman as per the bible then maybe we should stop inter-racial marriages also in accordance with that book?

Its amusing (and pathetic) how selective religious people can be about what they do and do not endorse as acceptable.

I guess at least there are some reasonable Christians. Perhaps they need to talk to the homophobes out there who can see past the end of their own noses?

marriage has got nothing to do with Christianity. its older than Christianity.
it only became part of Christianity when Christianity was the State.

the Christian haters among you will need to find another strawman to attack when arguing the definition of marriage

Edited by ricecrackers: 3/3/2014 10:27:16 AM

Our laws and legal system are based on Christian influences hence my need to bring it up.

By legal definition marriage is between a man and a woman, conveniently identical to Christian teachings ;)

FTR I don't hate Christianity. Well no less than I hate any other theistic religion. The Abrahamic religions do a good job of bringing hate upon themselves for the rigid draconian morals which have no useful application today.

so you hate religious people
ok

Note how I say religion and religious people. Huge difference ;)

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