Just to be clear. I am completely against the National Identity Policy (NIP).

I feel it is exclusionary, bigoted and infringes on the right to free speech and freedom of identity - basically a slap in the face to the multiculturalism and openness the FFA supposedly preaches.

The new Brisbane Roar logo does infringe the policy and if you ask me is a perfect example of why the policy should be repealed

For the policy itself:

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/dct/ffa-dtc-performgroup-eu-west-1/FFA%20National%20Club%20Identity%20Policy%20FINAL_n4tdvoe03hg31ap7ys7ppq8al.pdf

For FFA comment on policy:

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/ffa-announces-national-club-identity-policy/159tpdfz6wrja164o95ot6xc9u

For Brisbane Roar History:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brisbane_Roar_FC



Edited by SoccerLogic: 19/8/2014 07:35:44 PM

Brisbane strengthening their historic mono ethnic Dutch links is ok but Melbourne Knights advertising their social club is not. FFA double standards. [-x

A club owned by Indonesians and having a logo displaying a lion and Brisbane Roar is indicative of nothing ethnic.
How many countries incorporate a lion on their emblem?

10 years and counting and still clutching at straws.Time to take off the tin foil hat and get out of the basement.

A few things to correct.

-This is not an attack at Brisbane Roar
-I support the A-League and although go for South, I can't remember going to an NSL match
-The NIP disallows any colours, icons, logo components from having ethnic connotations. There is no mention of intent. This means almost all logos infringe in some way, rendering the policy ineffective in its goal as well as it being exclusionary

and i wonder whats next, Darwin gonna have a red dragon on their logo because they found a ancient chinese coin there

:lol:

Clutching at straws.

I don't see the point of this thread, the FFA haven't commented on the logo change.

Ah South Melbourne fan ay, says it all really.

Sure does, how can one little club with so few fans produce so many cocks? I was overjoyed when Melbourne Knights knocked them out of the FFA Cup.

Shit troll is shit.

Unless Brisbane changed their name to Brisbane Dutch you might have a point.

Just to be clear this is not a go at Brisbane Roar. This is not a troll.

The point I'm making is that the FFA's National Identity Policy is exclusionary and may prevent clubs putting forward logos and brands, such as the new Brisbane Roar logo, despite them being perfectly reasonable.

Chelsea have a lion in their logo, does that make them a Dutch club?

There's still plenty of bitters around it appears :lol:

No, however if there was reasonable claim to their logo having ethnic connotations the FFA would have to take action. The NIP policy is poorly thought out and sends a mixed message to the wider community riddled with hypocrisy.

Edited by SoccerLogic: 19/8/2014 07:39:59 PM

This is a huge, huge stretch. Paying homage to the clubs roots and the previous clubs dutch roots are quite different things. The lion thing, not even worth addressing. The dutch do not have an exclusivity on the colour orange, as the croats do not have an exclusivity on the colours red and white, which is my clubs are allowed to wear red and white. Before anyone says any different, of course if you had a team called hadjuk gold coast and dressed them in a white and red check shirt with blue shorts, the situation is obviously different.

Don't give the Cros any more ideas. They'd love nothing more than to do that very thing around the country. :lol:

Don't you South Melbourne supporters have an FFA Cup tie to worry abou- ...oh!

Finally a comment relevant to the thread!

So just wondering. Assuming Roar have no dutch roots whatsoever would it be ok for them to play in orange? And if a club did have dutch roots, would it be ok for them to play in orange?

Because if the answers to these questions are:
-yes/no than the NIP is racist, however if the answers are
-yes/yes I fail to see the purpose of the policy at all

Club with Dutch background.
Owned by Indonesians.
Board members Fong, Rahman & Dobson, multi national
Coach Mulvey English/Australian
Football Director Stead Scotish/Australian
Staff multi nationals.
Captain Smith Australian

Notice the difference.

Difference from what?

Dutch origins- tick
Dutch badge- tick.
Dutch colours- tick.

Edited by jlm8695: 19/8/2014 07:46:51 PM

Mate, just shout us a big Hellas and go to bed :lol:

Multis :roll:

But the FFA haven't said anything about Brisbane's badge change, so the above is false.

Brisbane have a primary colour of orange and a lion as their symbol, get over it.

WE DA BEST - Tick

AND DAI R BUTTHURT TOO - Tick

Love it, just love it :lol:

Having trouble grasping fact from fiction it appears.

Closest ethnic?

- Are there dutch social clubs attached?
- Are the majority of supporters dutch?
- Does the club openly use dutch chants and songs at games?
- Does the club have any direct connection to the Netherlands?

They are just using the club's symbol and colours, and white is seen as crisp and clean when they're trying to use just Orange as a major colour, with black and white for highlights. There's no "dutch or GTFO" vibe being given, nobody is being excluded, it's just part of how the club has been branded.

What changes would you suggest for Brisbane? Scrap their image all together? The Maroon and the blue don't work with the orange very well, and they're going for a different style of badge.

Edited by Someguy: 19/8/2014 08:12:32 PM

This thread should be locked, title is factually incorrect, mate you are an idiot, go back to the state boards

Edited by Post_hoc: 19/8/2014 08:24:24 PM

and idiot