I didn't say anything about torrenting.

Or don't torrent ..www.warez-bb.org

Shit on the Simpsons all you like, but the show has outlasted them all!

Just remember
In a capitalist system, the only evolution for things like entertainment to make is to make it exclusive and inaccessible to the masses

If you want something if quality/ note, youre going to have to pay for it!

Thats the only evolution in the entertainment industry!

[/santa's a commie!]

This is amusing. People will simply stop watching shows instead.

^ That is all

The thing is: the tipping point was when people had to pay for quality tv, when in the day you didnt have to.

Only movies, and plays. Because a movie looks like crap on a crt 4:3 screen :-K

Anyway, while the internet has done a great service in opening up access to knowledge and art (philosophy) and all things esoteric, which could and should have made the world better, it is the level playing field, through the clicking of a mouse, where wanting to watch high end art, is the same as watching cat videos or "leave britney alone" rants on youtube.

Monetising the internet could be the way to go to filter out the quality? Personally i dont mind paying for Synecdoche New York, vs someone's cat video. Its pretty much the equivalent as buying the newspaper vs picking up the mx newspaper at the train station

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I use Express. Speeds are good but depending on how serious you are on the "privacy" side of things they might not be a good fit. The meet my criteria well enough and the odd time I need to grab a "linux distro" via BT there are plenty of servers in favourable locations.

I was struggling with speed with PIA but it has improved a lot for me in the last few months.

But they still have server in Australia?

-PB

Ideally you want something that is fast, isn't HQ'd in a "Five Eyes" nation and doesn't keep logs.

https://torrentfreak.com/anonymous-vpn-service-provider-review-2015-150228/

I'm using PIA too, but really unhappy with its speed. Checking around for other options.

Private Internet access. Does the job for me, most reviews for it are really good. Could be some free or cheaper ones out there just as good though.

Probably a separate thread for this... but any VPNs you guys recommend? A few of my mates use IPVanish?

The bottom line is

Basically in a capitalist society with regards to things like entertainment, in order to access superior products, it should be more exclusive to the people who want better, as opposed to the generic free stuff that is accessible to the general public.

Ie when pay tv came along, Quality programming migrated there, as part if the evolution of television. The Internet has served to be a grand disservice to things that contain 'intellectual property'. Its great the general Internet public can access a film like Synecdoche, New York or Lars Von Trier's Melancholia, but the same action is done to access high art films such as those (a click of a mouse) or looking up cat videos on YouTube

There has to be a line drawn somewhere!

Yeah I've used this a couple of times to find something I really wanted to watch
https://netflixaroundtheworld.com/

I don't suppose that would have anything to do with the anti piracy laws introduced in 2009 would it?:-k

http://www.ibtimes.com/sweden-internet-traffic-drops-around-40-wake-anti-piracy-law-244997

Netflix Australia seems to have better movies than US. Canada is best for content.

Give Stan a go. Free month trial and it's actually cheaper than Netflix for HD.
Haven't tried Presto but it's not HD so not interested.

The thing I like about Netflix is that when I use it with a VPN I can access more content. The library here is still a bit limited.

Thanks.

netflix is cheap but its rubbish. I'm only really into movies rather than TV shows.

http://www.finder.com.au/movies-internet-tv
There's also this one:
https://www.justwatch.com/au

Edited by mcjules: 9/4/2015 10:22:26 AM

Google Play is technically VOD

Calling it shit is a huge overstatement.

Anyone recommend a VOD website with the best new release movie library?

Searching netflix and they have fuck all.

A lot of people purchased Netflix without really understanding how shit it is.
I lived in the UK a few years ago, and we had Netflix. The content is huge, and you'll never run out of things to watch, but that doesn't necessarily make it any good. OITNB and HoC are really the only "top shelf" programming they gave. I know a few people, who I admit are dim (mostly due to being 'older') who thought it would give them access to any TV show, because thats how its portrayed in the media.

I agree that we are simply going to see an upturn in the use of VPNs now.

IPVanish even just put an 'Australia Sale' on, cheeky bastards.

Brilliant post.

Saying the same thing over and over like it's a fact does not make it a fact.

The huge uptake of Netflix alone (iinet were crediting Netflix for 15% of their total bandwidth a week after Netflix Australia launched) is proof in itself that people will pay for content when it is a) affordable and b) easily accessible.

It is a proven strategy that you continue to wilfully ignore. https://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130723/12235723906/two-new-reports-confirm-best-way-to-reduce-piracy-dramatically-is-to-offer-good-legal-alternatives.shtml

Sure it might somewhat reduce illegal downloads, but despite content being made cheap and accessible (i.e. Netflix) illegal download will continue to occur in large volumes. Your argument that cheap accessible content will bring an end to the piracy industry is plain wrong.

Exactly. People aren't going to merrily wait six months for their favourite movie to come to Netflix.

So would I, but there are so far 2.59 million folks who disagree with us. Keep in mind this figure will only explode, when better quality version are made available for download.