This always gets brought up now days and most of the shit he says about Australia is so horribly incorrect and factually wrong.

A stupid video to ever bring up in regards to this stuff.

And having a CCW license wouldn't have helped those two, that much is obvious, guy basically crept up on them, they had no chance.

-PB

Well OK then. Carry on. :-"

Touch a nerve there fella?

Of course, anybody with half an involvement with firearms in Australia knows how much the whole Adler situation is a load of shit.

-PB

Its just like that Jake Gyllenhaal movie Nightcrawler, somewhat...

Edited by condemned666: 27/8/2015 09:27:07 PM

There's a legitimate reason for being a Muslim - I can't think of a single legitimate reason for a civilian to own a semi-auto/full-automatic weapon.

America officially said they don't care after nothing was done when 20 children were killed.

You've shown your ignorance autos are banned in the u.s and semi auto has a legitimate purpose for pest control and self defence

Not that the u.s needs a reason because it's a a constitutional right

Who in their right mind has a semi auto for pest control?

Professional pest controllers.

Plenty in Australia have AR15's or modified AK's and the like as well as other pattern semi autos.

-PB

there must be some big termites about

An fair enough, but dont think lukey boy was refering to professional pest controllers

He was.

If you've ever gone hunting with a bolt action you will see why semi-autos are incredibly helpful.

-PB

And what class license would those blokes hold PB?

FMD you right wing blokes have some of the best examples of cognitive dissonance. The lack of the ability to use logic AT ALL and the penchant for making analogies that make absolutely no fucking sense is hilarious. I just feel sorry for any potential children you'll have in the future. You're so fucking backwards it hurts my head.

Hate to do this, but Jim Jefferies made a great point when he said that in regards to gun control, society has to adapt to its slowest members.

I fucking hate guns. The only thing thing guns are good for, is ending reality TV junkies.

They're not talking about cockroaches, termites or the sorts of snakes and spiders that can kill a couple thousand people with a drop or two of venom (although if you'd come across those, you'd probably want a fully automatic AR-15, and a couple hand grenades for good measure! :lol: ). Things like Wild Pigs, and Wild Dogs, plenty of introduced species running amock out in the outback causing havoc to the natural fauna and flora. Pretty much the only way you can get a semi-automatic AK/AR rifle is if you're one of those. And it's incredibly difficult to acquire a license for one. Heck, it's hard enough to get just the most basic firearms license for a .22 or something.

The Americans who are so nutjob on there stupid gun rights won't allow anything to change until it's there own children who get mowed down. No civilian needs a fucking automatic weapon without at the very least showing cause.

C and D which you can only get by being a professional.

The Adler was always going to be a Cat B until some Greens secretary got their knickers in a knot.

-PB

It's a constitutional right because in 1791, when there was a greater degree of lawlessness and there was no proper police force, it was necessary that individuals should be able to bear arms to protect themselves. There's a profound and excellent dimension of US politics insofar as individual rights are protected. In 1791, the best way of protecting the individual's rights was to permit the individual to bear arms.

Today however, there is proper law enforcement in the US (well, allegedly).

There were any number of rights which people exercised in Britain in hundreds of years ago which either no longer exist (because they are no longer necessary) or custom dictates that they no longer demanded. In fact, it's often the latter. Britain still has the death penalty for high treason. However, this would never be enforced.

I gather that, strictly speaking, in the UK an expectant mother has the right to urinate in a policeman's helmet.

Would this ever happen? No.

This says a lot about the States and its curious political nuances. They still interpret rights which are no longer necessary (in fact downright dangerous) literally and demand those rights. It speaks of the emphasis on individual rights, the inability to deal with unnecessary/dangerous rights in today's society, the entrenched right-wing politics and the sheer stupidity of a large proportion of the society.

Edited by quickflick: 28/8/2015 03:28:55 AM

While sweeping change will never happen thanks to the 2nd amendment, what they really do need is a uniform and better system in place like in Australia for actually getting these things.

Of course they will jump up and down and scream blur murder about their rights, but the fact is it isn't changing their right to bear arms, just their ability to obtain them so easily.

Being able to walk into a shot show and pay cash for a weapon and not have to do any paperwork or any background checks is just retarded.

-PB

Didnt obama try to pass legislation to get back ground checks done but was shot down by the republicans and the nra campaigning saying it infringed their rights ? Nothing will change over in the U.s

Even the 2nd amendment right to bear arms is controversial in its wording. The Supreme Court definitively ruled that it applied to individuals.

But the historical context is that it likely was making reference to state militias as "the people", rather than individuals.

I always laugh at the "we need guns to defend against tyrannical govt" line... So you and your mates are going to be able to stave off a military armed with tanks, drones, missiles, NUCLEAR BOMBS etc...

No. It was going to be category A. The widest and easiest to get license category in Australia. 7000 were pre ordered even before they got to Australia.

7000 !

Yep, which is just fucking retarded.

-PB

Yes, I am one of those pre-orders.

And it should have been Cat B as it is centrefire not rimfire.

-PB

Yep. Just like Englishmen are still allowed to shoot Scotsmen with a bow and arrow on English soil... And killing a swan is high treason.

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^ Now if I was that gun guy Piers Morgan interviewed and we were in the same room he wouldnt have stood a chance, because I have a gun #strongwins