Dan_The_Red
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Play Rogic on the right wing, let him cut onto his left. His highlights at Celtic are all around that area of the pitch. Use a RB capable of providing width in the attack ala Grant. Keep 3 working class CMs, or play Mooy at 10 and place 2 ball winners in behind him.
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chondro
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-----------------------Ryan---------------------- -----------Sainsbury------Degenek----------- Grant-------------------------------------Behich --------------Jeggo--------Oneill---------------- ---Boyle------------Mooy--------Ikonomidis--- ----------------------Leckie-----------------------
--------------------Langerak---------------------- -------------Deng-------------CB*---------------- ------------------------------------------Gersbach --------------Amini---------Luongo--------------- ---Mabil-------------Irvine-------------Arzani--- ------------------------Duke------------------------
Redmayne/Rogic
*Young CB choices?. - Susnajr, Chapman, Wright, Dellbridge, Souttar potentially.
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+xa bit out there. but spiranovic is one of those players you hear described as 'the most technically skilled player in the squad' when other players talk about the NT. i'd like to see him throw his hat in as a striker. it would be enormous for us to have a 6'5" striker to sub on when we were desperate. i know it's a bit of shit football but anyone that's watch the NT for the last 10 years has seen we have been reliant at dropping crosses into the box at the best of time. arnie's not shy on the idea, he used souttar in the same way right? on a side note, his passing seemed light years beyond jurman and wright when he came on last night. a real shame (for us) that he wasted his career for so long in china. You know that what we literally could try souttar there as just a poacher. We wont ask him to run much just sit in and around the box Maybe a formation like this with a lot of pace Souttar Arzani. Rogic/luongo Boyle Mooy--amini Smith/behich----degenek----sainsbury----leckie Just plonk souttar in the box and make our other players do all the running and put crosses into the air for for his head. We actually do have some very quick and athletic players. Try it out against Bhutan or Bangladesh or some shit team we could beat with 10 men at home I'd also like to try to get Luongo back to being the player he was at the 2015 Asian cup and am not all that impressed with rogic
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Bundoora B
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a bit out there. but spiranovic is one of those players you hear described as 'the most technically skilled player in the squad' when other players talk about the NT. i'd like to see him throw his hat in as a striker. it would be enormous for us to have a 6'5" striker to sub on when we were desperate. i know it's a bit of shit football but anyone that's watch the NT for the last 10 years has seen we have been reliant at dropping crosses into the box at the best of time. arnie's not shy on the idea, he used souttar in the same way right? on a side note, his passing seemed light years beyond jurman and wright when he came on last night. a real shame (for us) that he wasted his career for so long in china.
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Bundoora B
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pretty good hit out last night. i liked the mobile defencing midfield pairing. i'd like to see mooy or rogic play as the #10 in front of that. i asked the question in the match thread - which australian player has scored the most goals for the club/s this season? is adam tagggart and david williams on 11 goals in the a league the best we have?
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chondro
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Taking out the old guys that will be over 34 in 2022, we are left with a list like this imo. Doesnt really include many of those young guns in the olyroos squad that have a slim chance.
GK-Ryan, Langerak, Redmayne, Thomas, Izzo CBR-Sainsbury, Wright, Chapman, Dellbridge, Elsey CBL-Degenek, Jurman, Susnajr, Souttar, Good RB-Grant, Risdon, Deng, Strain, Atkinson LB-Behich, Gersbach, Smith, Davidson, Elder DM-Luongo, Jeggo, Dougall, Baccus, Wilson CM-Mooy, Oneill, Amini, Antonis, Brillante AM-Irvine, Rogic, Mcgree, Petratos, Hrustic RW-Leckie, Boyle, Mabil, Arzani, Buhagiar LW-Ikonomidis, Goodwin, Borello, Williams, Piscopo S-Maclaren, Nabbout, Taggart, Duke, Yeoboah
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Pedro Monzon
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Looking long term if Arnie plans to play with 2 defensive minded midfielders in a 4-2-3-1 how do we look across the park
GOALKEEPER: Ryan has this locked in, if there's an injury Vukovic is an adequate replacement and Langerak next in line.
DEFENCE: RIght back is still a slight concern, Grant has a great motor but his defensive work is questionable at times against better players, Risdon will need a big season to get back into contention. Sainsbuty and Degenek look our best partnership with Jurman, Wright, Williams, Spiranovic all capable to step in. Behich has left back to himself, Smith and Gersbach give us good depth but Gersbach needs to find regular game time if he's going to kick on.
MIDFIELD: Mooy needs to be our #10, he can open up a defence and get shots on goal but is wasted sitting deeper retrieving the ball. Irvine has the engine and ability to get forward and support as well as get all over the park. We really lack a Jedinak type player to break up play and offer some physical presence in the middle. Luongo is consistently inconsistent and probably needs a fresh change from battling relegation with QPR. Jeggo, Amini and O'Neill did their case no harm last night. Rogic is the ultimate impact sub against tiring defences and another who probably needs a move if he's going to kick on.
ATTACK: This is our biggest area for concern, despite having some decent quality. Leckie, Mabil, Arzani, Boyle, Ikonomidis and Nabbout are the standouts with Giannou, Borrello, Williams, Taggart, etc on the fringes. Leckie has all the attributes to be a decent striker, strong on the ball, fast, powerful and good in the air and his finishing has improved. If Arzani can get back to where he was and Boyle continue on his early performances we've got good supply and goal threat from our wingers but I don't think you can have Rogic and Arzani in the same 11 unless you're at home and have a lot of the ball.
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johnszasz
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Slovakia came back to win 4:1.
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johnszasz
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Fair play to Jordan but Slovakia noticeably have their bigger names on the bench in Skriniar and Pekarik.
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Typical Jordan counter attack to take the lead. Slovakia dominating but Jordan get the goal.
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Jordan Slovakia should be interesting. Tunisia lead Iraq early. China 2 Philippines 0. Uzbekistan 4 Best Korea 0.
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+x+xThanks for the stream JS! Mongolia unlucky not to make it 3 at the death. Hope they keep the margin on the away leg, Brunei would be a shithouse away trip. Congrats to Norjmoogiin Tsedenbal, who scored the first goal of the 2022 World Cup campaign. :) Try pronouncing that with a mouthful of mash potatoes! LOL!
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+xThanks for the stream JS! Mongolia unlucky not to make it 3 at the death. Hope they keep the margin on the away leg, Brunei would be a shithouse away trip. Congrats to Norjmoogiin Tsedenbal, who scored the first goal of the 2022 World Cup campaign. :) Try pronouncing that with a mouthful of mash potatoes!
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Thanks for the stream JS! Mongolia unlucky not to make it 3 at the death. Hope they keep the margin on the away leg, Brunei would be a shithouse away trip. Congrats to Norjmoogiin Tsedenbal, who scored the first goal of the 2022 World Cup campaign. :)
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johnszasz
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https://youtu.be/JaGQp61hv9gFantastic opening goal by Mongolia!
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johnszasz
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Brazil beat Qatar 2:0.
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+x+xAFC preliminary qualification starts tomorrow! Full strength Japan 0:0 vs Trinidad and Tobago. Qatar away in Brazil. You never know which Japan is going to turn up on any given game. :laugh: Haven't seen any highlights but I assume Japan had some massive chances.
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Behich has been announced as captain for this match only.
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+x+x+x+x+xHoping for Oman, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Honda's Cambodia, but we'll get Iraq or Uzbekistan, Bahrain, Kuwait and Pakistan. I don't think Iraq would be so bad because they don't get a proper home game. China got through in second place last year with 2 draws and a loss. Kuwait would probably be the only away trip that would bother us from pots 4/5. The three pot 3 teams I could see possibly taking a point from us are Palestine, Thailand and N Korea (just purely because of the difficulty of the away leg conditions). Don't think it really matters with Pot 2 as even if we only get 3 points from the games against this team we are still going through. May be better to draw a middle Eastern team there as at least we are almost guaranteed 3 points at home. I think I remember reading that Iraq will be playing home games in Iraq (in a limited number of cities) starting with the upcoming qualifiers. https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2019/3/27/iraq-team-to-play-international-football-matches-at-homeYep in Basra in a 65,000 capacity stadium. Sounds like it will be pretty intimidating for us Aussies. Really hope we don't draw them It's definitely getting harder in asia, we've been lucky that we've only had to play Iraq and Syria at neutral venues for so long Wow...wasn't ISIS only defeated last Thursday? Frightening to think our lads could be there in 6 months time. I guess it had to happen sooner or later but seriously hope we don't get Iraq more for safety reasons than qualifying. Our guys played in Vietnam in 67 in the middle of the war.. see Johnny Warren's biography. They made 'em tough back then..
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+xAFC preliminary qualification starts tomorrow! Full strength Japan 0:0 vs Trinidad and Tobago. Qatar away in Brazil. You never know which Japan is going to turn up on any given game. :laugh:
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AFC preliminary qualification starts tomorrow!
Full strength Japan 0:0 vs Trinidad and Tobago. Qatar away in Brazil.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xJust a bit of fun, well not really as round 2 is daunting enough these days that we might slip. I'd take a group of Australia, Oman, Philippines, Hong Kong, Singapore. I'm sure a lot of Aussie fans would love Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia and something like Cambodia or Malaysia. It'd be nice to avoid West Asia for once. Rankings might be updated again before the draw. 8 teams per pot. Pot 2 would at least see us get only one Syria, Jordan, Uzbekistan, Iraq or Vietnam. Thailand have slipped to pot 3. Just bumping this up. I think June will see one more ranking calculation before the draw? The pots might not change much. Apparently the April rankings will be used as they are prior to the first round, according to wiki. That'll give us: Pot 1: Iran (21) Japan (26) South Korea (37) Australia (41) Qatar (55) United Arab Emirates (67) Saudi Arabia (72) China PR (74)
Pot 2: Iraq (76) Syria (83) Uzbekistan (85) Lebanon (86) Oman (86) Kyrgyzstan (95) Jordan (97) Vietnam (98)
Pot 3: Palestine (99) India (101) Bahrain (111) Thailand (114) Tajikistan (120) North Korea (121) Philippines (124) Chinese Taipei (125)
Pot 4: Turkmenistan (136) Myanmar (140) Hong Kong (141) Yemen (146) Afghanistan (149) Maldives (151) Kuwait (156) Indonesia (159)
Pot 5: Singapore (160) Nepal (161)
and six from the following: Malaysia (168) Cambodia (173) Macau (183) Laos (184) Bhutan (186) Mongolia (187) Bangladesh (188) Guam (193) Brunei (194) Timor-Leste (195) Pakistan (200) Sri Lanka (202)
Please Lord let us draw the winner of Bhutan and Guam. I wonder if we would send a HAL team or go for the American Samoa record. I'd love an away trip to Bhutan.  Same, but you have to pay $250 USD for everyday you spend there, though it does cover accommodation, food, transport and a guide. Yeah it's a really closed country, but that makes the draw even stronger. See also North Korea away.
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paladisious
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+x+x+x+x+xHoping for Oman, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Honda's Cambodia, but we'll get Iraq or Uzbekistan, Bahrain, Kuwait and Pakistan. I don't think Iraq would be so bad because they don't get a proper home game. China got through in second place last year with 2 draws and a loss. Kuwait would probably be the only away trip that would bother us from pots 4/5. The three pot 3 teams I could see possibly taking a point from us are Palestine, Thailand and N Korea (just purely because of the difficulty of the away leg conditions). Don't think it really matters with Pot 2 as even if we only get 3 points from the games against this team we are still going through. May be better to draw a middle Eastern team there as at least we are almost guaranteed 3 points at home. I think I remember reading that Iraq will be playing home games in Iraq (in a limited number of cities) starting with the upcoming qualifiers. https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2019/3/27/iraq-team-to-play-international-football-matches-at-homeYep in Basra in a 65,000 capacity stadium. Sounds like it will be pretty intimidating for us Aussies. Really hope we don't draw them It's definitely getting harder in asia, we've been lucky that we've only had to play Iraq and Syria at neutral venues for so long Wow...wasn't ISIS only defeated last Thursday? Frightening to think our lads could be there in 6 months time. I guess it had to happen sooner or later but seriously hope we don't get Iraq more for safety reasons than qualifying. Basra's on the other side of Iraq from where ISIS were, but in a crowd of tens of thousands it only takes one person...
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When is the draw btw?
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Ameryn74
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+x+x+x+xHoping for Oman, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Honda's Cambodia, but we'll get Iraq or Uzbekistan, Bahrain, Kuwait and Pakistan. I don't think Iraq would be so bad because they don't get a proper home game. China got through in second place last year with 2 draws and a loss. Kuwait would probably be the only away trip that would bother us from pots 4/5. The three pot 3 teams I could see possibly taking a point from us are Palestine, Thailand and N Korea (just purely because of the difficulty of the away leg conditions). Don't think it really matters with Pot 2 as even if we only get 3 points from the games against this team we are still going through. May be better to draw a middle Eastern team there as at least we are almost guaranteed 3 points at home. I think I remember reading that Iraq will be playing home games in Iraq (in a limited number of cities) starting with the upcoming qualifiers. https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2019/3/27/iraq-team-to-play-international-football-matches-at-homeYep in Basra in a 65,000 capacity stadium. Sounds like it will be pretty intimidating for us Aussies. Really hope we don't draw them It's definitely getting harder in asia, we've been lucky that we've only had to play Iraq and Syria at neutral venues for so long Wow...wasn't ISIS only defeated last Thursday? Frightening to think our lads could be there in 6 months time. I guess it had to happen sooner or later but seriously hope we don't get Iraq more for safety reasons than qualifying.
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johnszasz
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Just seeing this Basra stadium now. Very new. That'd be cool. Just hope the security is top notch.
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 Have a look at this beast, imagine playing in that at full capacity! We couldn't even beat them in iran with nobody there!
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johnszasz
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It's interesting that Iraq are starting to get permission to play at home again. I really don't know how things are in Basra but that'd be by far the toughest away game.
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johnszasz
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Turkey vs Uzbekistan tonight should be interesting.
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