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+x+xCouldn’t agree more that the endless negativity from the same people over and over gets tiring fast. We all want to see them follow through and build this stadium and training base, but just sitting there constantly whinging Is just a step too far.
I know some want to see them fail to say I told you so, along with a myriad of other agendas that some keep pushing at every turn. The reality is the game has its faults by the amount of power plays and agendas in motion at every opportunity just rips the game apart.
Let’s hope they build it soon and can finally silence those doubters. Mate, lets say that WU and a Newy or Mariners fall over, do they realise who comes in next? It will be in any order, Canberra (Capital Region), Football Tasmania, S/E Qld, another team from Adelaide because they support their teams in any weather. The thought process usually is more focused on wanting things to fail to see a things return to the years past where the power was in the hands of others. There is usually no regard for the true well being of the game in most things I see. More club failures will be a very bad look for the game as a whole, whether some like it or not. We need to find ways to expand, not hope for failures to push alternative agendas.
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+x+xTake ur complaining and protest to bring ur club back! You and some others keep fukn complaining about anything to do with WU! It's Lowy's vision that fukd you all over. Yes, WU did state their intentions around two years ago but then, they go swimming through the red tape to bring it to life, that Stadium business. Quality of the comp has been great, look at the star power at WU considering the economic situation. Ex NSL players totally support the comp, they don't death ride it and they want it to thrive because its Australian. Back from where? My club never left matey. Its been around for 60 years and I'm sure will still be around long after I'm gone... We applied 3 times to obtain a license and were passed up 3 times for "anyone but Hellas FC" so if you think anyone is going to protest/beg to be let in your dreaming pal. Star power? Quality of the comp? Hahahah are you being serious? I watched the last 20mins of ABCs coverage of wsw vs hakoa omfg thats NPL but slightly faster... same shit skills, terrible game awareness, poor referring and the players....,, Ibini and that mullet guy Grant are actual socceroos? FMD..... If I wanted quality there are 50-60 better leagues than aleague in the world to watch. I follow my club regardless of what they put on the pitch and am never happy with it win loose or draw... As for yourself AND ex NSL players suporting Western United and wanting them to succeed, who gives a f#ck? They, more than any other plastic franchise, are a cancer on the sport of soccer in this country. Bury you're head in the sand if you want and pretend that they're a bunch of football mad investors over there that won't stop funding the team the very minute they sell the first tranche of low quality, high density, urban slum housing. A League is healthier and is no less quality as a product than the NSL even though great players came from there. That was run into the ground. This league is plastic to you but most people don't share your views. Why post on their thread? They should post on your thread and they can keep reminding you that your club is still around yes, and excluded from A League like mine was. Many teams were not invited. Many ex SM supporters would like to know how they are going in NPL matches so let them know on ur thread.
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+x+xTake ur complaining and protest to bring ur club back! You and some others keep fukn complaining about anything to do with WU! It's Lowy's vision that fukd you all over. Yes, WU did state their intentions around two years ago but then, they go swimming through the red tape to bring it to life, that Stadium business. Quality of the comp has been great, look at the star power at WU considering the economic situation. Ex NSL players totally support the comp, they don't death ride it and they want it to thrive because its Australian. Back from where? My club never left matey. Its been around for 60 years and I'm sure will still be around long after I'm gone... We applied 3 times to obtain a license and were passed up 3 times for "anyone but Hellas FC" so if you think anyone is going to protest/beg to be let in your dreaming pal. Star power? Quality of the comp? Hahahah are you being serious? I watched the last 20mins of ABCs coverage of wsw vs hakoa omfg thats NPL but slightly faster... same shit skills, terrible game awareness, poor referring and the players....,, Ibini and that mullet guy Grant are actual socceroos? FMD..... If I wanted quality there are 50-60 better leagues than aleague in the world to watch. I follow my club regardless of what they put on the pitch and am never happy with it win loose or draw... As for yourself AND ex NSL players suporting Western United and wanting them to succeed, who gives a f#ck? They, more than any other plastic franchise, are a cancer on the sport of soccer in this country. Bury you're head in the sand if you want and pretend that they're a bunch of football mad investors over there that won't stop funding the team the very minute they sell the first tranche of low quality, high density, urban slum housing. That post truly shows the bitterness really.
Many have to look on and think why some weren’t interested in having your club join, or another persons club for that matter. Sometimes, it may be about the approach, as the more posts we see from those that push the case always seem to go about things in quite a jarring manner.
It’s obvious there’s a lot of bad blood out there and there’s likely many reasons for it that don’t always meet the eye.
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+xCouldn’t agree more that the endless negativity from the same people over and over gets tiring fast. We all want to see them follow through and build this stadium and training base, but just sitting there constantly whinging Is just a step too far.
I know some want to see them fail to say I told you so, along with a myriad of other agendas that some keep pushing at every turn. The reality is the game has its faults by the amount of power plays and agendas in motion at every opportunity just rips the game apart.
Let’s hope they build it soon and can finally silence those doubters. No I dont want them to fail so I can be proven right... at all. The justification of my oppinions by a bunch of strangers in cyberspace is just not that important sorry. I just am so furious that Loweys absolute blind hatred of Greeks, Croatians and some Italians has led to him allowing a bunch of shady "investors" use the FFA as cover for a land grab disguised as the promise of a better soccee future. And so called fellow soccer fans in this country, with its multiculturalism and acceptance of everything and everyone, not only allowed it to happen, but uses any means to justify it... You are ALL being taken for a ride by these guys but your hatred of the "ethnics" is more important eh?
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+x+xCouldn’t agree more that the endless negativity from the same people over and over gets tiring fast. We all want to see them follow through and build this stadium and training base, but just sitting there constantly whinging Is just a step too far.
I know some want to see them fail to say I told you so, along with a myriad of other agendas that some keep pushing at every turn. The reality is the game has its faults by the amount of power plays and agendas in motion at every opportunity just rips the game apart.
Let’s hope they build it soon and can finally silence those doubters. No I dont want them to fail so I can be proven right... at all. The justification of my oppinions by a bunch of strangers in cyberspace is just not that important sorry. I just am so furious that Loweys absolute blind hatred of Greeks, Croatians and some Italians has led to him allowing a bunch of shady "investors" use the FFA as cover for a land grab disguised as the promise of a better soccee future. And so called fellow soccer fans in this country, with its multiculturalism and acceptance of everything and everyone, not only allowed it to happen, but uses any means to justify it... You are ALL being taken for a ride by these guys but your hatred of the "ethnics" is more important eh? Alot of us are ethnic but most don't deathride the A League given that Sydney Olympic or Apia are in NPL. Lowy is obviously ethnic but rightly or wrongly he knew that one culture vs another culture in football along with flares and brawls etc in matches would not bring the game fwd to be marketable and professional. There is every chance these things would be happening every so often, like the old days.
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+x+xCouldn’t agree more that the endless negativity from the same people over and over gets tiring fast. We all want to see them follow through and build this stadium and training base, but just sitting there constantly whinging Is just a step too far.
I know some want to see them fail to say I told you so, along with a myriad of other agendas that some keep pushing at every turn. The reality is the game has its faults by the amount of power plays and agendas in motion at every opportunity just rips the game apart.
Let’s hope they build it soon and can finally silence those doubters. No I dont want them to fail so I can be proven right... at all. The justification of my oppinions by a bunch of strangers in cyberspace is just not that important sorry. I just am so furious that Loweys absolute blind hatred of Greeks, Croatians and some Italians has led to him allowing a bunch of shady "investors" use the FFA as cover for a land grab disguised as the promise of a better soccee future. And so called fellow soccer fans in this country, with its multiculturalism and acceptance of everything and everyone, not only allowed it to happen, but uses any means to justify it... You are ALL being taken for a ride by these guys but your hatred of the "ethnics" is more important eh? Once again, you go on about things like you know everyone’s reasoning and conclude things trying to pinpoint one reason. I’m an ‘ethnic’ And have no issue with former NSL clubs joining, but I look on and see that the approach taken may have put many of those making decisions offside.
The game needs to find a better balance of inclusivity, but the constant negativity that many push does that cause no favours. It’s not easy to look on and think that things should be better, but find an approach that isn’t as jarring in the process.
Having followed this game for decades now, and being a Melbourne Knights fan since I was a kid as it was my local club, I for one want the NSD to happen to strengthen the connections. Let’s hope this can be achieved.
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+x+x+xCouldn’t agree more that the endless negativity from the same people over and over gets tiring fast. We all want to see them follow through and build this stadium and training base, but just sitting there constantly whinging Is just a step too far.
I know some want to see them fail to say I told you so, along with a myriad of other agendas that some keep pushing at every turn. The reality is the game has its faults by the amount of power plays and agendas in motion at every opportunity just rips the game apart.
Let’s hope they build it soon and can finally silence those doubters. No I dont want them to fail so I can be proven right... at all. The justification of my oppinions by a bunch of strangers in cyberspace is just not that important sorry. I just am so furious that Loweys absolute blind hatred of Greeks, Croatians and some Italians has led to him allowing a bunch of shady "investors" use the FFA as cover for a land grab disguised as the promise of a better soccee future. And so called fellow soccer fans in this country, with its multiculturalism and acceptance of everything and everyone, not only allowed it to happen, but uses any means to justify it... You are ALL being taken for a ride by these guys but your hatred of the "ethnics" is more important eh? Once again, you go on about things like you know everyone’s reasoning and conclude things trying to pinpoint one reason. I’m an ‘ethnic’ And have no issue with former NSL clubs joining, but I look on and see that the approach taken may have put many of those making decisions offside.
The game needs to find a better balance of inclusivity, but the constant negativity that many push does that cause no favours. It’s not easy to look on and think that things should be better, but find an approach that isn’t as jarring in the process.
Having followed this game for decades now, and being a Melbourne Knights fan since I was a kid as it was my local club, I for one want the NSD to happen to strengthen the connections. Let’s hope this can be achieved.
I want Second DIv as well. If SM play Preston or Sydney Croatia play Rockdale Illinden and so on, then political issues and violence occurs, they would be excluded from Second Div and back to NPL, it is not hard to figure that out. Gone is any chance of A League entry as well. We know the older generations educate hate to the younger ones and the garbage continues, it is that easy.
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+x+x+xCouldn’t agree more that the endless negativity from the same people over and over gets tiring fast. We all want to see them follow through and build this stadium and training base, but just sitting there constantly whinging Is just a step too far.
I know some want to see them fail to say I told you so, along with a myriad of other agendas that some keep pushing at every turn. The reality is the game has its faults by the amount of power plays and agendas in motion at every opportunity just rips the game apart.
Let’s hope they build it soon and can finally silence those doubters. No I dont want them to fail so I can be proven right... at all. The justification of my oppinions by a bunch of strangers in cyberspace is just not that important sorry. I just am so furious that Loweys absolute blind hatred of Greeks, Croatians and some Italians has led to him allowing a bunch of shady "investors" use the FFA as cover for a land grab disguised as the promise of a better soccee future. And so called fellow soccer fans in this country, with its multiculturalism and acceptance of everything and everyone, not only allowed it to happen, but uses any means to justify it... You are ALL being taken for a ride by these guys but your hatred of the "ethnics" is more important eh? Once again, you go on about things like you know everyone’s reasoning and conclude things trying to pinpoint one reason. I’m an ‘ethnic’ And have no issue with former NSL clubs joining, but I look on and see that the approach taken may have put many of those making decisions offside.
The game needs to find a better balance of inclusivity, but the constant negativity that many push does that cause no favours. It’s not easy to look on and think that things should be better, but find an approach that isn’t as jarring in the process.
Having followed this game for decades now, and being a Melbourne Knights fan since I was a kid as it was my local club, I for one want the NSD to happen to strengthen the connections. Let’s hope this can be achieved.
Can I ask a serious question? If you were a MK fan, even just in a casual way, how can you possibly support another club, or even a league in general, whos very existence relies on your club being excluded from it forever? You hope for an NSD that Knights may be allowed to jojn but why should they have to and WU can just pay 18mil and be in., why cant MK go to their members if they want too, raise the cash and be given a license?
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+x+x+xTake ur complaining and protest to bring ur club back! You and some others keep fukn complaining about anything to do with WU! It's Lowy's vision that fukd you all over. Yes, WU did state their intentions around two years ago but then, they go swimming through the red tape to bring it to life, that Stadium business. Quality of the comp has been great, look at the star power at WU considering the economic situation. Ex NSL players totally support the comp, they don't death ride it and they want it to thrive because its Australian. Back from where? My club never left matey. Its been around for 60 years and I'm sure will still be around long after I'm gone... We applied 3 times to obtain a license and were passed up 3 times for "anyone but Hellas FC" so if you think anyone is going to protest/beg to be let in your dreaming pal. Star power? Quality of the comp? Hahahah are you being serious? I watched the last 20mins of ABCs coverage of wsw vs hakoa omfg thats NPL but slightly faster... same shit skills, terrible game awareness, poor referring and the players....,, Ibini and that mullet guy Grant are actual socceroos? FMD..... If I wanted quality there are 50-60 better leagues than aleague in the world to watch. I follow my club regardless of what they put on the pitch and am never happy with it win loose or draw... As for yourself AND ex NSL players suporting Western United and wanting them to succeed, who gives a f#ck? They, more than any other plastic franchise, are a cancer on the sport of soccer in this country. Bury you're head in the sand if you want and pretend that they're a bunch of football mad investors over there that won't stop funding the team the very minute they sell the first tranche of low quality, high density, urban slum housing. That post truly shows the bitterness really.
Many have to look on and think why some weren’t interested in having your club join, or another persons club for that matter. Sometimes, it may be about the approach, as the more posts we see from those that push the case always seem to go about things in quite a jarring manner.
It’s obvious there’s a lot of bad blood out there and there’s likely many reasons for it that don’t always meet the eye. So your opinion of my club is based on what I type on an internet forum? Really mate, what are you 14? I could be a 65 year old crack whore from Wuhan killing time between gobbling on CCP party members. Lol
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+x+x+x+xCouldn’t agree more that the endless negativity from the same people over and over gets tiring fast. We all want to see them follow through and build this stadium and training base, but just sitting there constantly whinging Is just a step too far.
I know some want to see them fail to say I told you so, along with a myriad of other agendas that some keep pushing at every turn. The reality is the game has its faults by the amount of power plays and agendas in motion at every opportunity just rips the game apart.
Let’s hope they build it soon and can finally silence those doubters. No I dont want them to fail so I can be proven right... at all. The justification of my oppinions by a bunch of strangers in cyberspace is just not that important sorry. I just am so furious that Loweys absolute blind hatred of Greeks, Croatians and some Italians has led to him allowing a bunch of shady "investors" use the FFA as cover for a land grab disguised as the promise of a better soccee future. And so called fellow soccer fans in this country, with its multiculturalism and acceptance of everything and everyone, not only allowed it to happen, but uses any means to justify it... You are ALL being taken for a ride by these guys but your hatred of the "ethnics" is more important eh? Once again, you go on about things like you know everyone’s reasoning and conclude things trying to pinpoint one reason. I’m an ‘ethnic’ And have no issue with former NSL clubs joining, but I look on and see that the approach taken may have put many of those making decisions offside.
The game needs to find a better balance of inclusivity, but the constant negativity that many push does that cause no favours. It’s not easy to look on and think that things should be better, but find an approach that isn’t as jarring in the process.
Having followed this game for decades now, and being a Melbourne Knights fan since I was a kid as it was my local club, I for one want the NSD to happen to strengthen the connections. Let’s hope this can be achieved.
I want Second DIv as well. If SM play Preston or Sydney Croatia play Rockdale Illinden and so on, then political issues and violence occurs, they would be excluded from Second Div and back to NPL, it is not hard to figure that out. Gone is any chance of A League entry as well. We know the older generations educate hate to the younger ones and the garbage continues, it is that easy. Sure, ok so when the RBB march down collins street burning flares and breaking windows do we exclude them from both divisions too? Or when fans stab each other in Adelaide or on Swan st etc etc. Stop repeatimg the same old dumb shit all the other muppets have been saying for years bud, your better than that. Violence is violence, bad behaviour is the same whether the thugs are chanting "Hellas" or "Wanderers"
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There is an answer there that needs to come out, and that it maybe seen as unfair. There are teams from the old NSL deemed to be not welcome.
There are teams that are deemed to be a real liability, insightful and do not have the image that headquarters want to market and advertise at all.
I honestly don't know if my NSL team is one tbh.
In other competitions, fans follow different teams, especially in the top tier of competition in this country. Many follow EPL teams in particular.
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+x+x+x+x+xCouldn’t agree more that the endless negativity from the same people over and over gets tiring fast. We all want to see them follow through and build this stadium and training base, but just sitting there constantly whinging Is just a step too far.
I know some want to see them fail to say I told you so, along with a myriad of other agendas that some keep pushing at every turn. The reality is the game has its faults by the amount of power plays and agendas in motion at every opportunity just rips the game apart.
Let’s hope they build it soon and can finally silence those doubters. No I dont want them to fail so I can be proven right... at all. The justification of my oppinions by a bunch of strangers in cyberspace is just not that important sorry. I just am so furious that Loweys absolute blind hatred of Greeks, Croatians and some Italians has led to him allowing a bunch of shady "investors" use the FFA as cover for a land grab disguised as the promise of a better soccee future. And so called fellow soccer fans in this country, with its multiculturalism and acceptance of everything and everyone, not only allowed it to happen, but uses any means to justify it... You are ALL being taken for a ride by these guys but your hatred of the "ethnics" is more important eh? Once again, you go on about things like you know everyone’s reasoning and conclude things trying to pinpoint one reason. I’m an ‘ethnic’ And have no issue with former NSL clubs joining, but I look on and see that the approach taken may have put many of those making decisions offside.
The game needs to find a better balance of inclusivity, but the constant negativity that many push does that cause no favours. It’s not easy to look on and think that things should be better, but find an approach that isn’t as jarring in the process.
Having followed this game for decades now, and being a Melbourne Knights fan since I was a kid as it was my local club, I for one want the NSD to happen to strengthen the connections. Let’s hope this can be achieved.
I want Second DIv as well. If SM play Preston or Sydney Croatia play Rockdale Illinden and so on, then political issues and violence occurs, they would be excluded from Second Div and back to NPL, it is not hard to figure that out. Gone is any chance of A League entry as well. We know the older generations educate hate to the younger ones and the garbage continues, it is that easy. Sure, ok so when the RBB march down collins street burning flares and breaking windows do we exclude them from both divisions too? Or when fans stab each other in Adelaide or on Swan st etc etc. Stop repeatimg the same old dumb shit all the other muppets have been saying for years bud, your better than that. Violence is violence, bad behaviour is the same whether the thugs are chanting "Hellas" or "Wanderers" Re, the RBB have had their issues with the FFA and the cops afew years ago. They mainly marched to the match but generally didn't usually vandalise along the way. Not saying it never has happened though. What can be done if they don't want our teams fille? AAFC with Second Div are going through this atm and that's why the blueprint has not come out. They are thinking imagine we have eight of our fourteen teams with different cultures with international flags and chanting Cro-a-tia or singing overseas songs. They are not new to me but getting the authorities to not step in and put things off when flares are let off is too unthinkable.
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+x+x+x+xCouldn’t agree more that the endless negativity from the same people over and over gets tiring fast. We all want to see them follow through and build this stadium and training base, but just sitting there constantly whinging Is just a step too far.
I know some want to see them fail to say I told you so, along with a myriad of other agendas that some keep pushing at every turn. The reality is the game has its faults by the amount of power plays and agendas in motion at every opportunity just rips the game apart.
Let’s hope they build it soon and can finally silence those doubters. No I dont want them to fail so I can be proven right... at all. The justification of my oppinions by a bunch of strangers in cyberspace is just not that important sorry. I just am so furious that Loweys absolute blind hatred of Greeks, Croatians and some Italians has led to him allowing a bunch of shady "investors" use the FFA as cover for a land grab disguised as the promise of a better soccee future. And so called fellow soccer fans in this country, with its multiculturalism and acceptance of everything and everyone, not only allowed it to happen, but uses any means to justify it... You are ALL being taken for a ride by these guys but your hatred of the "ethnics" is more important eh? Once again, you go on about things like you know everyone’s reasoning and conclude things trying to pinpoint one reason. I’m an ‘ethnic’ And have no issue with former NSL clubs joining, but I look on and see that the approach taken may have put many of those making decisions offside.
The game needs to find a better balance of inclusivity, but the constant negativity that many push does that cause no favours. It’s not easy to look on and think that things should be better, but find an approach that isn’t as jarring in the process.
Having followed this game for decades now, and being a Melbourne Knights fan since I was a kid as it was my local club, I for one want the NSD to happen to strengthen the connections. Let’s hope this can be achieved.
Can I ask a serious question? If you were a MK fan, even just in a casual way, how can you possibly support another club, or even a league in general, whos very existence relies on your club being excluded from it forever? You hope for an NSD that Knights may be allowed to jojn but why should they have to and WU can just pay 18mil and be in., why cant MK go to their members if they want too, raise the cash and be given a license? Sorry, this is BS, a place in the top tier should be won via performance and not bought via cash payments. I love the passion for the NSL and the ethnics but I am sorry to say that by so desperately trying to join the AL (3 attempts) SMH is a wannabe plastic and not much better than the other franchisees you complain about. Much of your bitterness is related to SMH missing out so I question if you would hold the same opinion if SMH had one of their bids accepted
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+x+x+x+x+xCouldn’t agree more that the endless negativity from the same people over and over gets tiring fast. We all want to see them follow through and build this stadium and training base, but just sitting there constantly whinging Is just a step too far.
I know some want to see them fail to say I told you so, along with a myriad of other agendas that some keep pushing at every turn. The reality is the game has its faults by the amount of power plays and agendas in motion at every opportunity just rips the game apart.
Let’s hope they build it soon and can finally silence those doubters. No I dont want them to fail so I can be proven right... at all. The justification of my oppinions by a bunch of strangers in cyberspace is just not that important sorry. I just am so furious that Loweys absolute blind hatred of Greeks, Croatians and some Italians has led to him allowing a bunch of shady "investors" use the FFA as cover for a land grab disguised as the promise of a better soccee future. And so called fellow soccer fans in this country, with its multiculturalism and acceptance of everything and everyone, not only allowed it to happen, but uses any means to justify it... You are ALL being taken for a ride by these guys but your hatred of the "ethnics" is more important eh? Once again, you go on about things like you know everyone’s reasoning and conclude things trying to pinpoint one reason. I’m an ‘ethnic’ And have no issue with former NSL clubs joining, but I look on and see that the approach taken may have put many of those making decisions offside.
The game needs to find a better balance of inclusivity, but the constant negativity that many push does that cause no favours. It’s not easy to look on and think that things should be better, but find an approach that isn’t as jarring in the process.
Having followed this game for decades now, and being a Melbourne Knights fan since I was a kid as it was my local club, I for one want the NSD to happen to strengthen the connections. Let’s hope this can be achieved.
I want Second DIv as well. If SM play Preston or Sydney Croatia play Rockdale Illinden and so on, then political issues and violence occurs, they would be excluded from Second Div and back to NPL, it is not hard to figure that out. Gone is any chance of A League entry as well. We know the older generations educate hate to the younger ones and the garbage continues, it is that easy. Sure, ok so when the RBB march down collins street burning flares and breaking windows do we exclude them from both divisions too? Or when fans stab each other in Adelaide or on Swan st etc etc. Stop repeatimg the same old dumb shit all the other muppets have been saying for years bud, your better than that. Violence is violence, bad behaviour is the same whether the thugs are chanting "Hellas" or "Wanderers" LOL ........ the RBB’s football cultured were tame by comparison and under control in no time whilst the Hellas’, Croatia’s etc you couldn’t control and prevalent to the last day of the defunct NSL.
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+x+x+x+xCouldn’t agree more that the endless negativity from the same people over and over gets tiring fast. We all want to see them follow through and build this stadium and training base, but just sitting there constantly whinging Is just a step too far.
I know some want to see them fail to say I told you so, along with a myriad of other agendas that some keep pushing at every turn. The reality is the game has its faults by the amount of power plays and agendas in motion at every opportunity just rips the game apart.
Let’s hope they build it soon and can finally silence those doubters. No I dont want them to fail so I can be proven right... at all. The justification of my oppinions by a bunch of strangers in cyberspace is just not that important sorry. I just am so furious that Loweys absolute blind hatred of Greeks, Croatians and some Italians has led to him allowing a bunch of shady "investors" use the FFA as cover for a land grab disguised as the promise of a better soccee future. And so called fellow soccer fans in this country, with its multiculturalism and acceptance of everything and everyone, not only allowed it to happen, but uses any means to justify it... You are ALL being taken for a ride by these guys but your hatred of the "ethnics" is more important eh? Once again, you go on about things like you know everyone’s reasoning and conclude things trying to pinpoint one reason. I’m an ‘ethnic’ And have no issue with former NSL clubs joining, but I look on and see that the approach taken may have put many of those making decisions offside.
The game needs to find a better balance of inclusivity, but the constant negativity that many push does that cause no favours. It’s not easy to look on and think that things should be better, but find an approach that isn’t as jarring in the process.
Having followed this game for decades now, and being a Melbourne Knights fan since I was a kid as it was my local club, I for one want the NSD to happen to strengthen the connections. Let’s hope this can be achieved.
Can I ask a serious question? If you were a MK fan, even just in a casual way, how can you possibly support another club, or even a league in general, whos very existence relies on your club being excluded from it forever? You hope for an NSD that Knights may be allowed to jojn but why should they have to and WU can just pay 18mil and be in., why cant MK go to their members if they want too, raise the cash and be given a license? Many north Geelong & St Albans fans supported Melbourne knights in the NSL. And I’d assume some Greek VPL club fans supported south melbourne in the NSL. Even though for the most part NSL excluded these state league clubs.
This wasn’t frowned upon in those days. But now a knights fan can’t support an A-league club?
I’d suggest there are actually quite a few fans out there that happily watch their NPL club as well as local A-League club.
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+x+x+x+x+xCouldn’t agree more that the endless negativity from the same people over and over gets tiring fast. We all want to see them follow through and build this stadium and training base, but just sitting there constantly whinging Is just a step too far.
I know some want to see them fail to say I told you so, along with a myriad of other agendas that some keep pushing at every turn. The reality is the game has its faults by the amount of power plays and agendas in motion at every opportunity just rips the game apart.
Let’s hope they build it soon and can finally silence those doubters. No I dont want them to fail so I can be proven right... at all. The justification of my oppinions by a bunch of strangers in cyberspace is just not that important sorry. I just am so furious that Loweys absolute blind hatred of Greeks, Croatians and some Italians has led to him allowing a bunch of shady "investors" use the FFA as cover for a land grab disguised as the promise of a better soccee future. And so called fellow soccer fans in this country, with its multiculturalism and acceptance of everything and everyone, not only allowed it to happen, but uses any means to justify it... You are ALL being taken for a ride by these guys but your hatred of the "ethnics" is more important eh? Once again, you go on about things like you know everyone’s reasoning and conclude things trying to pinpoint one reason. I’m an ‘ethnic’ And have no issue with former NSL clubs joining, but I look on and see that the approach taken may have put many of those making decisions offside.
The game needs to find a better balance of inclusivity, but the constant negativity that many push does that cause no favours. It’s not easy to look on and think that things should be better, but find an approach that isn’t as jarring in the process.
Having followed this game for decades now, and being a Melbourne Knights fan since I was a kid as it was my local club, I for one want the NSD to happen to strengthen the connections. Let’s hope this can be achieved.
Can I ask a serious question? If you were a MK fan, even just in a casual way, how can you possibly support another club, or even a league in general, whos very existence relies on your club being excluded from it forever? You hope for an NSD that Knights may be allowed to jojn but why should they have to and WU can just pay 18mil and be in., why cant MK go to their members if they want too, raise the cash and be given a license? Many north Geelong & St Albans fans supported Melbourne knights in the NSL. And I’d assume some Greek VPL club fans supported south melbourne in the NSL. Even though for the most part NSL excluded these state league clubs.
This wasn’t frowned upon in those days. But now a knights fan can’t support an A-league club?
I’d suggest there are actually quite a few fans out there that happily watch their NPL club as well as local A-League club. As was / is the case with the Greek fans following Victory. This leaves the handful of Hellas fans at Lakeside who have become BITTERS
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+x+x+x+x+xCouldn’t agree more that the endless negativity from the same people over and over gets tiring fast. We all want to see them follow through and build this stadium and training base, but just sitting there constantly whinging Is just a step too far.
I know some want to see them fail to say I told you so, along with a myriad of other agendas that some keep pushing at every turn. The reality is the game has its faults by the amount of power plays and agendas in motion at every opportunity just rips the game apart.
Let’s hope they build it soon and can finally silence those doubters. No I dont want them to fail so I can be proven right... at all. The justification of my oppinions by a bunch of strangers in cyberspace is just not that important sorry. I just am so furious that Loweys absolute blind hatred of Greeks, Croatians and some Italians has led to him allowing a bunch of shady "investors" use the FFA as cover for a land grab disguised as the promise of a better soccee future. And so called fellow soccer fans in this country, with its multiculturalism and acceptance of everything and everyone, not only allowed it to happen, but uses any means to justify it... You are ALL being taken for a ride by these guys but your hatred of the "ethnics" is more important eh? Once again, you go on about things like you know everyone’s reasoning and conclude things trying to pinpoint one reason. I’m an ‘ethnic’ And have no issue with former NSL clubs joining, but I look on and see that the approach taken may have put many of those making decisions offside.
The game needs to find a better balance of inclusivity, but the constant negativity that many push does that cause no favours. It’s not easy to look on and think that things should be better, but find an approach that isn’t as jarring in the process.
Having followed this game for decades now, and being a Melbourne Knights fan since I was a kid as it was my local club, I for one want the NSD to happen to strengthen the connections. Let’s hope this can be achieved.
Can I ask a serious question? If you were a MK fan, even just in a casual way, how can you possibly support another club, or even a league in general, whos very existence relies on your club being excluded from it forever? You hope for an NSD that Knights may be allowed to jojn but why should they have to and WU can just pay 18mil and be in., why cant MK go to their members if they want too, raise the cash and be given a license? Many north Geelong & St Albans fans supported Melbourne knights in the NSL. And I’d assume some Greek VPL club fans supported south melbourne in the NSL. Even though for the most part NSL excluded these state league clubs.
This wasn’t frowned upon in those days. But now a knights fan can’t support an A-league club?
I’d suggest there are actually quite a few fans out there that happily watch their NPL club as well as local A-League club. Not really the same, St. Albans and Nth Geelong were all sister clubs to Knights basically. They would provide players and Knights would give them generous transfer fees, knights would go there and play friendlies and they would always help eachother out. Even when the seasons overlapped Knights wouldn’t schedule home game at the same time as them. SM had a similar relationship with numerous clubs. The A league isn’t helping Knights or SM, no such relationships exist like the above. If anything the 3 current franchises probably wouldn’t mind if MK and SM folded, 15 years ago MV ran a pretty successful smear campaign against the nsl and its clubs. In the NSL days you would never hear Knights say a bad word about the local league and its clubs, same as SM.
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+x+xIt's pretty clear now that there was never going to be a stadium. In any case other sport the success of the WU franchise would never be a major scandal, with media all over over it I can't believe that those involved are getting away from with it. https://greekherald.com.au/news/jason-sourasis-proud-koan-striving-to-lead-western-united-to-glory/To paraphrase the council gave us free land and to get it we had to come up with a license for an Australian professional sport... And the piece of shit has the gall to say he used to be a Hellas supporter all his life.... Why can't he support both South Melbourne and Western United?
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People support multiple teams across the globe. People can do what they please, and aren’t somehow stuck with following a team for life just because they once did. Things change.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xCouldn’t agree more that the endless negativity from the same people over and over gets tiring fast. We all want to see them follow through and build this stadium and training base, but just sitting there constantly whinging Is just a step too far.
I know some want to see them fail to say I told you so, along with a myriad of other agendas that some keep pushing at every turn. The reality is the game has its faults by the amount of power plays and agendas in motion at every opportunity just rips the game apart.
Let’s hope they build it soon and can finally silence those doubters. No I dont want them to fail so I can be proven right... at all. The justification of my oppinions by a bunch of strangers in cyberspace is just not that important sorry. I just am so furious that Loweys absolute blind hatred of Greeks, Croatians and some Italians has led to him allowing a bunch of shady "investors" use the FFA as cover for a land grab disguised as the promise of a better soccee future. And so called fellow soccer fans in this country, with its multiculturalism and acceptance of everything and everyone, not only allowed it to happen, but uses any means to justify it... You are ALL being taken for a ride by these guys but your hatred of the "ethnics" is more important eh? Once again, you go on about things like you know everyone’s reasoning and conclude things trying to pinpoint one reason. I’m an ‘ethnic’ And have no issue with former NSL clubs joining, but I look on and see that the approach taken may have put many of those making decisions offside.
The game needs to find a better balance of inclusivity, but the constant negativity that many push does that cause no favours. It’s not easy to look on and think that things should be better, but find an approach that isn’t as jarring in the process.
Having followed this game for decades now, and being a Melbourne Knights fan since I was a kid as it was my local club, I for one want the NSD to happen to strengthen the connections. Let’s hope this can be achieved.
I want Second DIv as well. If SM play Preston or Sydney Croatia play Rockdale Illinden and so on, then political issues and violence occurs, they would be excluded from Second Div and back to NPL, it is not hard to figure that out. Gone is any chance of A League entry as well. We know the older generations educate hate to the younger ones and the garbage continues, it is that easy. Sure, ok so when the RBB march down collins street burning flares and breaking windows do we exclude them from both divisions too? Or when fans stab each other in Adelaide or on Swan st etc etc. Stop repeatimg the same old dumb shit all the other muppets have been saying for years bud, your better than that. Violence is violence, bad behaviour is the same whether the thugs are chanting "Hellas" or "Wanderers" Re, the RBB have had their issues with the FFA and the cops afew years ago. They mainly marched to the match but generally didn't usually vandalise along the way. Not saying it never has happened though. What can be done if they don't want our teams fille? AAFC with Second Div are going through this atm and that's why the blueprint has not come out. They are thinking imagine we have eight of our fourteen teams with different cultures with international flags and chanting Cro-a-tia or singing overseas songs. They are not new to me but getting the authorities to not step in and put things off when flares are let off is too unthinkable. No comment, yesterday's bottle throwing speaks for itself.
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+xPeople support multiple teams across the globe. People can do what they please, and aren’t somehow stuck with following a team for life just because they once did. Things change.
Fair enough. I dont agree but to each their own I suppose.
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+x+x+xIt's pretty clear now that there was never going to be a stadium. In any case other sport the success of the WU franchise would never be a major scandal, with media all over over it I can't believe that those involved are getting away from with it. https://greekherald.com.au/news/jason-sourasis-proud-koan-striving-to-lead-western-united-to-glory/To paraphrase the council gave us free land and to get it we had to come up with a license for an Australian professional sport... And the piece of shit has the gall to say he used to be a Hellas supporter all his life.... Why can't he support both South Melbourne and Western United? He can do whatever he wants. Stating that loving a team for ethnic reasons is no longer good enough for him would be more credible if he wasn't involved in an entity that was actively trying to extinguish his previous "love"
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+x+x+x+x+x+xCouldn’t agree more that the endless negativity from the same people over and over gets tiring fast. We all want to see them follow through and build this stadium and training base, but just sitting there constantly whinging Is just a step too far.
I know some want to see them fail to say I told you so, along with a myriad of other agendas that some keep pushing at every turn. The reality is the game has its faults by the amount of power plays and agendas in motion at every opportunity just rips the game apart.
Let’s hope they build it soon and can finally silence those doubters. No I dont want them to fail so I can be proven right... at all. The justification of my oppinions by a bunch of strangers in cyberspace is just not that important sorry. I just am so furious that Loweys absolute blind hatred of Greeks, Croatians and some Italians has led to him allowing a bunch of shady "investors" use the FFA as cover for a land grab disguised as the promise of a better soccee future. And so called fellow soccer fans in this country, with its multiculturalism and acceptance of everything and everyone, not only allowed it to happen, but uses any means to justify it... You are ALL being taken for a ride by these guys but your hatred of the "ethnics" is more important eh? Once again, you go on about things like you know everyone’s reasoning and conclude things trying to pinpoint one reason. I’m an ‘ethnic’ And have no issue with former NSL clubs joining, but I look on and see that the approach taken may have put many of those making decisions offside.
The game needs to find a better balance of inclusivity, but the constant negativity that many push does that cause no favours. It’s not easy to look on and think that things should be better, but find an approach that isn’t as jarring in the process.
Having followed this game for decades now, and being a Melbourne Knights fan since I was a kid as it was my local club, I for one want the NSD to happen to strengthen the connections. Let’s hope this can be achieved.
I want Second DIv as well. If SM play Preston or Sydney Croatia play Rockdale Illinden and so on, then political issues and violence occurs, they would be excluded from Second Div and back to NPL, it is not hard to figure that out. Gone is any chance of A League entry as well. We know the older generations educate hate to the younger ones and the garbage continues, it is that easy. Sure, ok so when the RBB march down collins street burning flares and breaking windows do we exclude them from both divisions too? Or when fans stab each other in Adelaide or on Swan st etc etc. Stop repeatimg the same old dumb shit all the other muppets have been saying for years bud, your better than that. Violence is violence, bad behaviour is the same whether the thugs are chanting "Hellas" or "Wanderers" LOL ........ the RBB’s football cultured were tame by comparison and under control in no time whilst the Hellas’, Croatia’s etc you couldn’t control and prevalent to the last day of the defunct NSL. Yeah I remember many instances of NSL games where they threw bottles at women.... those ugly hooligans....
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+x+x+x+x+xCouldn’t agree more that the endless negativity from the same people over and over gets tiring fast. We all want to see them follow through and build this stadium and training base, but just sitting there constantly whinging Is just a step too far.
I know some want to see them fail to say I told you so, along with a myriad of other agendas that some keep pushing at every turn. The reality is the game has its faults by the amount of power plays and agendas in motion at every opportunity just rips the game apart.
Let’s hope they build it soon and can finally silence those doubters. No I dont want them to fail so I can be proven right... at all. The justification of my oppinions by a bunch of strangers in cyberspace is just not that important sorry. I just am so furious that Loweys absolute blind hatred of Greeks, Croatians and some Italians has led to him allowing a bunch of shady "investors" use the FFA as cover for a land grab disguised as the promise of a better soccee future. And so called fellow soccer fans in this country, with its multiculturalism and acceptance of everything and everyone, not only allowed it to happen, but uses any means to justify it... You are ALL being taken for a ride by these guys but your hatred of the "ethnics" is more important eh? Once again, you go on about things like you know everyone’s reasoning and conclude things trying to pinpoint one reason. I’m an ‘ethnic’ And have no issue with former NSL clubs joining, but I look on and see that the approach taken may have put many of those making decisions offside.
The game needs to find a better balance of inclusivity, but the constant negativity that many push does that cause no favours. It’s not easy to look on and think that things should be better, but find an approach that isn’t as jarring in the process.
Having followed this game for decades now, and being a Melbourne Knights fan since I was a kid as it was my local club, I for one want the NSD to happen to strengthen the connections. Let’s hope this can be achieved.
Can I ask a serious question? If you were a MK fan, even just in a casual way, how can you possibly support another club, or even a league in general, whos very existence relies on your club being excluded from it forever? You hope for an NSD that Knights may be allowed to jojn but why should they have to and WU can just pay 18mil and be in., why cant MK go to their members if they want too, raise the cash and be given a license? Sorry, this is BS, a place in the top tier should be won via performance and not bought via cash payments. I love the passion for the NSL and the ethnics but I am sorry to say that by so desperately trying to join the AL (3 attempts) SMH is a wannabe plastic and not much better than the other franchisees you complain about. Much of your bitterness is related to SMH missing out so I question if you would hold the same opinion if SMH had one of their bids accepted Thats a fair comment and to be absolutely honest with you , maybe I wouldn't. We are wannabe plastic in that regard I agree. But your first sentence is key here. " a place in the top tier should be won via performance and not bought via cash payments."
What performance did the Aleague franchises provide to get into the top tier in 2005? Who did they beat to get "promoted"?
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+x+x+x+xIt's pretty clear now that there was never going to be a stadium. In any case other sport the success of the WU franchise would never be a major scandal, with media all over over it I can't believe that those involved are getting away from with it. https://greekherald.com.au/news/jason-sourasis-proud-koan-striving-to-lead-western-united-to-glory/To paraphrase the council gave us free land and to get it we had to come up with a license for an Australian professional sport... And the piece of shit has the gall to say he used to be a Hellas supporter all his life.... Why can't he support both South Melbourne and Western United? He can do whatever he wants. Stating that loving a team for ethnic reasons is no longer good enough for him would be more credible if he wasn't involved in an entity that was actively trying to extinguish his previous "love" I haven't seen Western United trying to actively or passively extinguish Greek Heritage - what have I missed?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xCouldn’t agree more that the endless negativity from the same people over and over gets tiring fast. We all want to see them follow through and build this stadium and training base, but just sitting there constantly whinging Is just a step too far.
I know some want to see them fail to say I told you so, along with a myriad of other agendas that some keep pushing at every turn. The reality is the game has its faults by the amount of power plays and agendas in motion at every opportunity just rips the game apart.
Let’s hope they build it soon and can finally silence those doubters. No I dont want them to fail so I can be proven right... at all. The justification of my oppinions by a bunch of strangers in cyberspace is just not that important sorry. I just am so furious that Loweys absolute blind hatred of Greeks, Croatians and some Italians has led to him allowing a bunch of shady "investors" use the FFA as cover for a land grab disguised as the promise of a better soccee future. And so called fellow soccer fans in this country, with its multiculturalism and acceptance of everything and everyone, not only allowed it to happen, but uses any means to justify it... You are ALL being taken for a ride by these guys but your hatred of the "ethnics" is more important eh? Once again, you go on about things like you know everyone’s reasoning and conclude things trying to pinpoint one reason. I’m an ‘ethnic’ And have no issue with former NSL clubs joining, but I look on and see that the approach taken may have put many of those making decisions offside.
The game needs to find a better balance of inclusivity, but the constant negativity that many push does that cause no favours. It’s not easy to look on and think that things should be better, but find an approach that isn’t as jarring in the process.
Having followed this game for decades now, and being a Melbourne Knights fan since I was a kid as it was my local club, I for one want the NSD to happen to strengthen the connections. Let’s hope this can be achieved.
I want Second DIv as well. If SM play Preston or Sydney Croatia play Rockdale Illinden and so on, then political issues and violence occurs, they would be excluded from Second Div and back to NPL, it is not hard to figure that out. Gone is any chance of A League entry as well. We know the older generations educate hate to the younger ones and the garbage continues, it is that easy. Sure, ok so when the RBB march down collins street burning flares and breaking windows do we exclude them from both divisions too? Or when fans stab each other in Adelaide or on Swan st etc etc. Stop repeatimg the same old dumb shit all the other muppets have been saying for years bud, your better than that. Violence is violence, bad behaviour is the same whether the thugs are chanting "Hellas" or "Wanderers" Re, the RBB have had their issues with the FFA and the cops afew years ago. They mainly marched to the match but generally didn't usually vandalise along the way. Not saying it never has happened though. What can be done if they don't want our teams fille? AAFC with Second Div are going through this atm and that's why the blueprint has not come out. They are thinking imagine we have eight of our fourteen teams with different cultures with international flags and chanting Cro-a-tia or singing overseas songs. They are not new to me but getting the authorities to not step in and put things off when flares are let off is too unthinkable. No comment, yesterday's bottle throwing speaks for itself. Ur right here, they cannot call it wogball in this instance.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xCouldn’t agree more that the endless negativity from the same people over and over gets tiring fast. We all want to see them follow through and build this stadium and training base, but just sitting there constantly whinging Is just a step too far.
I know some want to see them fail to say I told you so, along with a myriad of other agendas that some keep pushing at every turn. The reality is the game has its faults by the amount of power plays and agendas in motion at every opportunity just rips the game apart.
Let’s hope they build it soon and can finally silence those doubters. No I dont want them to fail so I can be proven right... at all. The justification of my oppinions by a bunch of strangers in cyberspace is just not that important sorry. I just am so furious that Loweys absolute blind hatred of Greeks, Croatians and some Italians has led to him allowing a bunch of shady "investors" use the FFA as cover for a land grab disguised as the promise of a better soccee future. And so called fellow soccer fans in this country, with its multiculturalism and acceptance of everything and everyone, not only allowed it to happen, but uses any means to justify it... You are ALL being taken for a ride by these guys but your hatred of the "ethnics" is more important eh? Once again, you go on about things like you know everyone’s reasoning and conclude things trying to pinpoint one reason. I’m an ‘ethnic’ And have no issue with former NSL clubs joining, but I look on and see that the approach taken may have put many of those making decisions offside.
The game needs to find a better balance of inclusivity, but the constant negativity that many push does that cause no favours. It’s not easy to look on and think that things should be better, but find an approach that isn’t as jarring in the process.
Having followed this game for decades now, and being a Melbourne Knights fan since I was a kid as it was my local club, I for one want the NSD to happen to strengthen the connections. Let’s hope this can be achieved.
Can I ask a serious question? If you were a MK fan, even just in a casual way, how can you possibly support another club, or even a league in general, whos very existence relies on your club being excluded from it forever? You hope for an NSD that Knights may be allowed to jojn but why should they have to and WU can just pay 18mil and be in., why cant MK go to their members if they want too, raise the cash and be given a license? Sorry, this is BS, a place in the top tier should be won via performance and not bought via cash payments. I love the passion for the NSL and the ethnics but I am sorry to say that by so desperately trying to join the AL (3 attempts) SMH is a wannabe plastic and not much better than the other franchisees you complain about. Much of your bitterness is related to SMH missing out so I question if you would hold the same opinion if SMH had one of their bids accepted Thats a fair comment and to be absolutely honest with you , maybe I wouldn't. We are wannabe plastic in that regard I agree. But your first sentence is key here. " a place in the top tier should be won via performance and not bought via cash payments."
What performance did the Aleague franchises provide to get into the top tier in 2005? Who did they beat to get "promoted"? Its actually worse than that, the FFA at the time exclude many of the effnik clubs because they werent "financial" enough but secretly lent MV money so they could meet the criteria! Not to mention FFA chairman was shareholder of SFC so what a surprise they got accepted. How corrupt is that. Karma is a bitcha nd it is all coming back to bite them. SMH would be better off in the NSD as interest in AL is dying rapidly.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xCouldn’t agree more that the endless negativity from the same people over and over gets tiring fast. We all want to see them follow through and build this stadium and training base, but just sitting there constantly whinging Is just a step too far.
I know some want to see them fail to say I told you so, along with a myriad of other agendas that some keep pushing at every turn. The reality is the game has its faults by the amount of power plays and agendas in motion at every opportunity just rips the game apart.
Let’s hope they build it soon and can finally silence those doubters. No I dont want them to fail so I can be proven right... at all. The justification of my oppinions by a bunch of strangers in cyberspace is just not that important sorry. I just am so furious that Loweys absolute blind hatred of Greeks, Croatians and some Italians has led to him allowing a bunch of shady "investors" use the FFA as cover for a land grab disguised as the promise of a better soccee future. And so called fellow soccer fans in this country, with its multiculturalism and acceptance of everything and everyone, not only allowed it to happen, but uses any means to justify it... You are ALL being taken for a ride by these guys but your hatred of the "ethnics" is more important eh? Once again, you go on about things like you know everyone’s reasoning and conclude things trying to pinpoint one reason. I’m an ‘ethnic’ And have no issue with former NSL clubs joining, but I look on and see that the approach taken may have put many of those making decisions offside.
The game needs to find a better balance of inclusivity, but the constant negativity that many push does that cause no favours. It’s not easy to look on and think that things should be better, but find an approach that isn’t as jarring in the process.
Having followed this game for decades now, and being a Melbourne Knights fan since I was a kid as it was my local club, I for one want the NSD to happen to strengthen the connections. Let’s hope this can be achieved.
Can I ask a serious question? If you were a MK fan, even just in a casual way, how can you possibly support another club, or even a league in general, whos very existence relies on your club being excluded from it forever? You hope for an NSD that Knights may be allowed to jojn but why should they have to and WU can just pay 18mil and be in., why cant MK go to their members if they want too, raise the cash and be given a license? Sorry, this is BS, a place in the top tier should be won via performance and not bought via cash payments. I love the passion for the NSL and the ethnics but I am sorry to say that by so desperately trying to join the AL (3 attempts) SMH is a wannabe plastic and not much better than the other franchisees you complain about. Much of your bitterness is related to SMH missing out so I question if you would hold the same opinion if SMH had one of their bids accepted Thats a fair comment and to be absolutely honest with you , maybe I wouldn't. We are wannabe plastic in that regard I agree. But your first sentence is key here. " a place in the top tier should be won via performance and not bought via cash payments."
What performance did the Aleague franchises provide to get into the top tier in 2005? Who did they beat to get "promoted"? Its actually worse than that, the FFA at the time exclude many of the effnik clubs because they werent "financial" enough but secretly lent MV money so they could meet the criteria! Not to mention FFA chairman was shareholder of SFC so what a surprise they got accepted. How corrupt is that. Karma is a bitcha nd it is all coming back to bite them. SMH would be better off in the NSD as interest in AL is dying rapidly. Many NSL clubs were reportedly struggling at the time the A-League bidding process was underway, so things that make sense now likely did not at the time.
Things have not been well handled throughout the years in this game though, going back to mid last century, so it’s certainly been hard work getting any momentum for the game.
As for interest in the A League declining, it’s often a self fulfilling prophecy as the negativity that continues to envelop the game at every turn does it no favours.
Those that would appear to be supporters of the game are often the most toxic elements that have tried everything in their power to see things fall apart. Even positive things like the WWC 2023 bid win some managed to try and talk down, so it’s never going to be easy to get things back on track.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xCouldn’t agree more that the endless negativity from the same people over and over gets tiring fast. We all want to see them follow through and build this stadium and training base, but just sitting there constantly whinging Is just a step too far.
I know some want to see them fail to say I told you so, along with a myriad of other agendas that some keep pushing at every turn. The reality is the game has its faults by the amount of power plays and agendas in motion at every opportunity just rips the game apart.
Let’s hope they build it soon and can finally silence those doubters. No I dont want them to fail so I can be proven right... at all. The justification of my oppinions by a bunch of strangers in cyberspace is just not that important sorry. I just am so furious that Loweys absolute blind hatred of Greeks, Croatians and some Italians has led to him allowing a bunch of shady "investors" use the FFA as cover for a land grab disguised as the promise of a better soccee future. And so called fellow soccer fans in this country, with its multiculturalism and acceptance of everything and everyone, not only allowed it to happen, but uses any means to justify it... You are ALL being taken for a ride by these guys but your hatred of the "ethnics" is more important eh? Once again, you go on about things like you know everyone’s reasoning and conclude things trying to pinpoint one reason. I’m an ‘ethnic’ And have no issue with former NSL clubs joining, but I look on and see that the approach taken may have put many of those making decisions offside.
The game needs to find a better balance of inclusivity, but the constant negativity that many push does that cause no favours. It’s not easy to look on and think that things should be better, but find an approach that isn’t as jarring in the process.
Having followed this game for decades now, and being a Melbourne Knights fan since I was a kid as it was my local club, I for one want the NSD to happen to strengthen the connections. Let’s hope this can be achieved.
Can I ask a serious question? If you were a MK fan, even just in a casual way, how can you possibly support another club, or even a league in general, whos very existence relies on your club being excluded from it forever? You hope for an NSD that Knights may be allowed to jojn but why should they have to and WU can just pay 18mil and be in., why cant MK go to their members if they want too, raise the cash and be given a license? Sorry, this is BS, a place in the top tier should be won via performance and not bought via cash payments. I love the passion for the NSL and the ethnics but I am sorry to say that by so desperately trying to join the AL (3 attempts) SMH is a wannabe plastic and not much better than the other franchisees you complain about. Much of your bitterness is related to SMH missing out so I question if you would hold the same opinion if SMH had one of their bids accepted Thats a fair comment and to be absolutely honest with you , maybe I wouldn't. We are wannabe plastic in that regard I agree. But your first sentence is key here. " a place in the top tier should be won via performance and not bought via cash payments."
What performance did the Aleague franchises provide to get into the top tier in 2005? Who did they beat to get "promoted"? Its actually worse than that, the FFA at the time exclude many of the effnik clubs because they werent "financial" enough but secretly lent MV money so they could meet the criteria! Not to mention FFA chairman was shareholder of SFC so what a surprise they got accepted. How corrupt is that. Karma is a bitcha nd it is all coming back to bite them. SMH would be better off in the NSD as interest in AL is dying rapidly. Yeah I know mate, that's why I am angry all the time :) It wasn't a secret at the time either. Something about money going to the new guard and not the "pumpkin seed eaters" at Bob Jane. The bad thing is that people turn a blind eye to this and blame the "old wogs" for as my buddy below says, not being financial stable at the time. Ah well, I guess Ill just have to be happy with NSD or Championship or whatever they are going to call it...
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+x+x+x+x+x+xCouldn’t agree more that the endless negativity from the same people over and over gets tiring fast. We all want to see them follow through and build this stadium and training base, but just sitting there constantly whinging Is just a step too far.
I know some want to see them fail to say I told you so, along with a myriad of other agendas that some keep pushing at every turn. The reality is the game has its faults by the amount of power plays and agendas in motion at every opportunity just rips the game apart.
Let’s hope they build it soon and can finally silence those doubters. No I dont want them to fail so I can be proven right... at all. The justification of my oppinions by a bunch of strangers in cyberspace is just not that important sorry. I just am so furious that Loweys absolute blind hatred of Greeks, Croatians and some Italians has led to him allowing a bunch of shady "investors" use the FFA as cover for a land grab disguised as the promise of a better soccee future. And so called fellow soccer fans in this country, with its multiculturalism and acceptance of everything and everyone, not only allowed it to happen, but uses any means to justify it... You are ALL being taken for a ride by these guys but your hatred of the "ethnics" is more important eh? Once again, you go on about things like you know everyone’s reasoning and conclude things trying to pinpoint one reason. I’m an ‘ethnic’ And have no issue with former NSL clubs joining, but I look on and see that the approach taken may have put many of those making decisions offside.
The game needs to find a better balance of inclusivity, but the constant negativity that many push does that cause no favours. It’s not easy to look on and think that things should be better, but find an approach that isn’t as jarring in the process.
Having followed this game for decades now, and being a Melbourne Knights fan since I was a kid as it was my local club, I for one want the NSD to happen to strengthen the connections. Let’s hope this can be achieved.
Can I ask a serious question? If you were a MK fan, even just in a casual way, how can you possibly support another club, or even a league in general, whos very existence relies on your club being excluded from it forever? You hope for an NSD that Knights may be allowed to jojn but why should they have to and WU can just pay 18mil and be in., why cant MK go to their members if they want too, raise the cash and be given a license? Many north Geelong & St Albans fans supported Melbourne knights in the NSL. And I’d assume some Greek VPL club fans supported south melbourne in the NSL. Even though for the most part NSL excluded these state league clubs.
This wasn’t frowned upon in those days. But now a knights fan can’t support an A-league club?
I’d suggest there are actually quite a few fans out there that happily watch their NPL club as well as local A-League club. In the NSL days you would never hear Knights say a bad word about the local league and its clubs, same as SM.
What? I remember MK fans with a banner demanding the death of the NSL ffs
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