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sub007 - 22 May 2021 9:26 PM
Western have lost their last 5 games in a row and have conceded 14 goals while just scoring just 1 goal. Three of those matches were against teams outside the top 6 as well.

With the squad they have, that's an appalling return. Is it time for #RudanOut?

I hope so. I actually don't think Rudan is that good as a manager. I'm not sure who I'd replace him with but there is talent within the squad but the players aren't playing for him.
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nick1408 - 23 May 2021 10:15 AM
sub007 - 22 May 2021 9:26 PM

I hope so. I actually don't think Rudan is that good as a manager. I'm not sure who I'd replace him with but there is talent within the squad but the players aren't playing for him.

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Heart_fan - 22 May 2021 10:19 PM
sub007 - 22 May 2021 9:26 PM

It’s certainly concerning.

The players look tired and appear to lack motivation. No idea what’s causing this, but it’s been a very long fall for a team that was scoring for fun at times in the past.

Certainly interesting to see City lock on top spot and the likelihood of both of the other 2 Victorian sites in the bottom 3.

Rudan's methods are simply not sustainable for the whole season. It was exactly the same story when he was at the Nix. They were getting great results until the tail end of the season where it all falls apart. Will be interesting to see if he retains his job.
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nick1408 - 23 May 2021 10:15 AM
sub007 - 22 May 2021 9:26 PM

I hope so. I actually don't think Rudan is that good as a manager. I'm not sure who I'd replace him with but there is talent within the squad but the players aren't playing for him.

John Anastasiadis the assistant couch is well overdue for his chance. Was responsible for recruiting most of the NPL players last season,  has international certification and is a brilliant finals, reactive coach, can  grind out a season but also unafraid to make a surprising sub. 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 23 May 2021 11:22 PM
nick1408 - 23 May 2021 10:15 AM

John Anastasiadis the assistant couch is well overdue for his chance. Was responsible for recruiting most of the NPL players last season,  has international certification and is a brilliant finals, reactive coach, can  grind out a season but also unafraid to make a surprising sub. 

Good call
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sub007 - 22 May 2021 9:26 PM
Western have lost their last 5 games in a row and have conceded 14 goals while just scoring just 1 goal. Three of those matches were against teams outside the top 6 as well.

With the squad they have, that's an appalling return. Is it time for #RudanOut?

You have to question whether the whole nomadic lifestyle is starting to wear them down. They have a squad capable of winning the league. But something is missing. I've seen some people say they lack an identity. but thats not true. they have a clear identity. They are just not playing in their home region. They really do need to find a more permanent option in the west for next season. 

Team 11 were planning in putting temporary grandstands in casey fields while they await their stadium. maybe thats a short-term option? the stands used for the F1 GP have been lying idle for a long time now. 
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Feed_The_Brox - 24 May 2021 9:11 AM
sub007 - 22 May 2021 9:26 PM

You have to question whether the whole nomadic lifestyle is starting to wear them down. They have a squad capable of winning the league. But something is missing. I've seen some people say they lack an identity. but thats not true. they have a clear identity. They are just not playing in their home region. They really do need to find a more permanent option in the west for next season. 

Team 11 were planning in putting temporary grandstands in casey fields while they await their stadium. maybe thats a short-term option? the stands used for the F1 GP have been lying idle for a long time now. 
Im not trying to be argumentative on a Monday morning but ...... c'mon really?


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Monoethnic Social Club - 24 May 2021 9:13 AM
Im not trying to be argumentative on a Monday morning but ...... c'mon really?


yes mate. they are the team that represents the west of melbourne as well as Geelong and ballarat. perhaps you need to look up the definition of the word identity?
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by the look of their crowd following doesn't seem many from the regions you say identify with them.
Unitl they have a local ground to play how does one identify with the club.


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Feed_The_Brox - 24 May 2021 9:45 AM
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yes mate. they are the team that represents the west of melbourne as well as Geelong and ballarat. perhaps you need to look up the definition of the word identity?

AT a pinch, one could argue it's possible to produce an identity out of outer Western Melbourne, Geelong and Ballarat (although that in itself is a bit of a stretch).
But once you throw in games in Tassie and at AAMI, well...

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The team appears to have given up on the season. Well they gave up a month ago really.  That's on Rudan. 

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Feed_The_Brox - 24 May 2021 9:45 AM
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yes mate. they are the team that represents the west of melbourne as well as Geelong and ballarat. perhaps you need to look up the definition of the word identity?

Thanks, I am well aware of what identity means. Do the people of West Melbourne, Geelong and Ballarat agree that they are best represented by WU? It doesn't seem that way at the moment.
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Feed_The_Brox - 24 May 2021 9:45 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 24 May 2021 9:13 AM

yes mate. they are the team that represents the west of melbourne as well as Geelong and ballarat. perhaps you need to look up the definition of the word identity?

Might have been a good idea to include at least one of those terms in their team name.


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WU are trying to be spread themselves far and wide and missing the mark.

They chose to chase a Tasmanian option, likely due to financial advantages of such a deal, whilst already living a nomadic existence. It was a step too far really.

in their short history, they have already had 5 home grounds for A-League matches, with the most curious part being that none were even in their core target market where their stadium would be build (Wyndham). 

I do think that in a few years once a stadium is built, they will change their name to add Melbourne (Western Melbourne United). The need to draw from the regional areas will reduce over time (already seem to be backing away from Geelong), but it will be hard work. 



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Heart_fan - 24 May 2021 2:52 PM
WU are trying to be spread themselves far and wide and missing the mark.



hard to argue with that. which is why i am saying they need to find a base in the west next season... 
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ErogenousZone - 24 May 2021 11:36 AM
The team appears to have given up on the season. Well they gave up a month ago really.  That's on Rudan. 

Someone told them to emulate Victory

      

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Feed_The_Brox - 24 May 2021 3:02 PM
Heart_fan - 24 May 2021 2:52 PM

hard to argue with that. which is why i am saying they need to find a base in the west next season... 

https://www.stawellsoccerclub.com
Stawell is in the heart of their catchment area, and the local club has the same bitchumen and grass colours, maybe they can build a community out their before their house and land packages are ready for sale? 
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The most frustrating thing about WU is the stop-start comma around the new training base and stadium. 

It’s been a long time since the announcement of the training base and then silence and then cane news about the stadium planning progress made and then more silence. 

If they want people to take them seriously, start delivering something. Consistent progress updates would be good to achieve that.

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Heart_fan - 24 May 2021 10:53 PM
The most frustrating thing about WU is the stop-start comma around the new training base and stadium. 

It’s been a long time since the announcement of the training base and then silence and then cane news about the stadium planning progress made and then more silence. 

If they want people to take them seriously, start delivering something. Consistent progress updates would be good to achieve that.

They only people they need to take them seriously have already passed the resolution and gifted the free land for the *cough cough sports hub and stadium ..... The only other fans they need to convince are the poor buggers priced out of the Melbourne property market looking for their slice of the Australian Dream..... 
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Western United might as well play there home match against MacArthur in Sydney they play every else 
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Heart_fan - 24 May 2021 2:52 PM
I do think that in a few years once a stadium is built, they will change their name to add Melbourne (Western Melbourne United). The need to draw from the regional areas will reduce over time (already seem to be backing away from Geelong), but it will be hard work. 



Wyndham Vale United would be such a perfect name for them.
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Heart_fan - 24 May 2021 10:53 PM
The most frustrating thing about WU is the stop-start comma around the new training base and stadium. 

It’s been a long time since the announcement of the training base and then silence and then cane news about the stadium planning progress made and then more silence. 

If they want people to take them seriously, start delivering something. Consistent progress updates would be good to achieve that.

I don't believe a word this bunch of shysters puts out. 
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Ben Jorgensen is an 18-year-old from Albury and he has followed Western United everywhere since the club’s inception.

Following United's match against Wellington Phoenix in New Zealand in May, Ben has completed every single away trip in the A-League across the last two seasons.

Ben had been eyeing off the Phoenix fixture all season in the hope that the opportunity to go to Wellington would open up, with COVID restrictions up until now seeing the New Zealand club set up camp in Wollongong.

“Away days are always an experience, you see new things, experience new places, you take that plunge and away you go, you get hooked on it,” Ben said.

“I knew we had to play Wellington away one more time, whenever I looked at the fixtures, and I’d hoped our game would be in New Zealand."

In what has been a gruelling season for players and staff alike at the club, the importance of fan support has not gone unnoticed.

And this is something that rings true to Ben, who always tries to ensure that he is behind the team.

“There’s that social side, and going and making sure that the team knows – even if it’s just me or just a handful of as at an away game – that we’re right behind them."

Ben even jumped at the opportunity to follow the team to Tasmania in April, completing a visit to every Australian state in which the club has played this season.

In total, Ben has travelled approximately 26,729km to support the team throughout the 2020/21 A-League season.

This is the equivalent of 67% of the earth’s circumference, the length of 255 football pitches, or the distance between the club’s training ground at City Vista Sports Complex and the club's head office in Truganina, multiplied by 1,965.

But most importantly out of all of this, Ben has found a community of people in Western United, a valued member of the Western Service Crew, and the club has been part of his life during all the ups and downs.

“It’s very important to me. This club, it’s got me through some hard times personally,” he said.

“I’ve been in some dark places, and just to know that I’ve got the club itself, and everyone attached to it from the staff at the club to the Western Service Crew.

“To know that I’ve got all those people there who are there for me, it means a lot.”

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Jorgensen (bottom-right) with the Western Service Crew and United Head Coach Mark Rudan in Launceston, Tasmania.

Ben brings his friends along whenever he can and encourages new members to join the community, and he says they almost always enjoy the experience and the active support.

Unfortunately for the club, Ben will have less opportunity to support the team from next season as he embarks on a fantastic opportunity in the army as an aircraft handler.

While his presence in the stadiums will be sorely missed, Ben will most definitely continue to support the club from home and will remain an important part of the Western United family.

https://www.wufc.com.au/news/western-united-super-fan-joys-following-club

This is an unbelievable effort, fair play to the lad.


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Wyndham Vale United would be such a perfect name for them.

Why name themselves that ? Wyndham vale is actually a suburb and nowhere near tarneit 
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Heart_fan - 24 May 2021 10:53 PM
The most frustrating thing about WU is the stop-start comma around the new training base and stadium. 

It’s been a long time since the announcement of the training base and then silence and then cane news about the stadium planning progress made and then more silence. 

If they want people to take them seriously, start delivering something. Consistent progress updates would be good to achieve that.

Their offices are for lease and there merch store has been leased out to a Indian dress maker. I work near it and it's worrying.  The only thing to tie to wu is their signage on the building
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 2 Jun 2021 7:18 PM
Heart_fan - 24 May 2021 10:53 PM

Their offices are for lease and there merch store has been leased out to a Indian dress maker. I work near it and it's worrying.  The only thing to tie to wu is their signage on the building

https://www.reddit.com/r/Aleague/comments/nt6cgc/drone_footage_of_the_wyndham_city_stadium_site/
31 months since Western Melbourne Group were given a license to participate in the Aleague .........
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Monoethnic Social Club - 7 Jun 2021 10:45 AM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 2 Jun 2021 7:18 PM

https://www.reddit.com/r/Aleague/comments/nt6cgc/drone_footage_of_the_wyndham_city_stadium_site/
31 months since Western Melbourne Group were given a license to participate in the Aleague .........

That's what land looks like before it is cultivated or used to build a Stadium. Look at all that room for more fields, pretty impressive.. 
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soccerfoo - 7 Jun 2021 11:14 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 7 Jun 2021 10:45 AM

That's what land looks like before it is cultivated or used to build a Stadium. Look at all that room for more fields, pretty impressive.. 

Thats what an empty paddock, miles from civilization, with only a 2 lane back road road going past it looks like. hahahahahahahahah
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That's what land looks like before it is cultivated or used to build a Stadium. Look at all that room for more fields, pretty impressive.. 

When a new bunnings is nearly finished in tarneit and the stadium hasn't started something is up
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What a debacle. Degraded the whole A League. 
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