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charlied - 7 Jun 2021 1:04 PM
What a debacle. Degraded the whole A League. 

Yeah I love the a league but I can’t defend them.

we really need to get rid of them before next season 
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 2 Jun 2021 7:17 PM
df1982 - 27 May 2021 6:58 PM

Why name themselves that ? Wyndham vale is actually a suburb and nowhere near tarneit 

Name them after the council that covers those suburbs, 'Wyndham City'

Done

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kavorka - 7 Jun 2021 1:34 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 2 Jun 2021 7:17 PM

Name them after the council that covers those suburbs, 'Wyndham City'

Done

The stadium location is actually just as close to Wyndham Vale station as it is Tarneit station, if not closer. It is next to a yet to be built station that remains unnamed.

Wyndham City would be okay but I imagine CFG would have conniptions about another A-League club in Melbourne taking the "City" moniker.
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df1982 - 7 Jun 2021 5:29 PM
kavorka - 7 Jun 2021 1:34 PM

The stadium location is actually just as close to Wyndham Vale station as it is Tarneit station, if not closer. It is next to a yet to be built station that remains unnamed.

Wyndham City would be okay but I imagine CFG would have conniptions about another A-League club in Melbourne taking the "City" moniker.

I don't think wyndham city council will allow a club to be name that.  
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soccerfoo - 7 Jun 2021 11:14 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 7 Jun 2021 10:45 AM

That's what land looks like before it is cultivated or used to build a Stadium. Look at all that room for more fields, pretty impressive.. 

We were promised the stadium would be "shovel ready" the moment the bid got the green light.
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paladisious - 7 Jun 2021 6:58 PM
soccerfoo - 7 Jun 2021 11:14 AM

We were promised the stadium would be "shovel ready" the moment the bid got the green light.

Sounds like federal liberal speak. No wonder it was BS.





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paladisious - 7 Jun 2021 6:58 PM
soccerfoo - 7 Jun 2021 11:14 AM

We were promised the stadium would be "shovel ready" the moment the bid got the green light.

They are shovel ready now. Dig a hole and bury them.
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The award of this licence was so on the nose that you have to wonder who was paid off to get it done.
But also why the backers bothered, because this is costing them literally millions upon millions of dollars, and to what end? 
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aynoc - 7 Jun 2021 7:38 PM
paladisious - 7 Jun 2021 6:58 PM

They are shovel ready now. Dig a hole and bury them.

This is WU thread and yet there are no club supporters on here, ever. 
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charlied - 7 Jun 2021 7:59 PM
The award of this licence was so on the nose that you have to wonder who was paid off to get it done.
But also why the backers bothered, because this is costing them literally millions upon millions of dollars, and to what end? 

It only makes some sense if they are able to develop the land they were gifted without ever actually building a stadium.
Even then the finances don't really add up.

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bettega - 7 Jun 2021 8:14 PM
charlied - 7 Jun 2021 7:59 PM

It only makes some sense if they are able to develop the land they were gifted without ever actually building a stadium.
Even then the finances don't really add up.

They weren't "gifted" any land, they own it by purchasing it. I don't think that the stadium is a real estate scam per se, more that a group of rich guys thought they could use real estate development to fund their dream of owning their very own football team. But the costs are mounting up, and the longer the stadium takes to materialise the more difficult it will become to actually build interest in the team after years of a nomadic existence with hardly any fans. 

They should forget about Geelong and Ballarat and focus purely on being a team for the western suburbs of Melbourne. Play all home games at Whitten Oval until the stadium is built. And hope to god that train station materialises, because without the stadium will be a bitch to get to. Even if all their ducks fall into place it will still be a good decade or two until that area is fully built out with a residential population.

Macarthur has an existing stadium (perfect size for A-League), existing transport links and an existing catchment population to serve, so even though they've had a rocky start I have a lot more confidence they will flourish in the long-term. 

Even so, the best either of these teams can hope for is something like the Mariners. The idea that they would be massive clubs like the existing Sydney/Melbourne teams was fanciful. All future expansion should be regional areas without existing A-League teams (with perhaps an exception for an Ipswich team in the west of Brisbane).
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df1982 - 7 Jun 2021 8:41 PM
bettega - 7 Jun 2021 8:14 PM

They weren't "gifted" any land, they own it by purchasing it. I don't think that the stadium is a real estate scam per se, more that a group of rich guys thought they could use real estate development to fund their dream of owning their very own football team. But the costs are mounting up, and the longer the stadium takes to materialise the more difficult it will become to actually build interest in the team after years of a nomadic existence with hardly any fans. 

They should forget about Geelong and Ballarat and focus purely on being a team for the western suburbs of Melbourne. Play all home games at Whitten Oval until the stadium is built. And hope to god that train station materialises, because without the stadium will be a bitch to get to. Even if all their ducks fall into place it will still be a good decade or two until that area is fully built out with a residential population.

Macarthur has an existing stadium (perfect size for A-League), existing transport links and an existing catchment population to serve, so even though they've had a rocky start I have a lot more confidence they will flourish in the long-term. 

Even so, the best either of these teams can hope for is something like the Mariners. The idea that they would be massive clubs like the existing Sydney/Melbourne teams was fanciful. All future expansion should be regional areas without existing A-League teams (with perhaps an exception for an Ipswich team in the west of Brisbane).

And those real estate moguls have quietly backed out . The Chinese investors pulled the plug due to the falling market.  
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charlied - 7 Jun 2021 8:00 PM
aynoc - 7 Jun 2021 7:38 PM

This is WU thread and yet there are no club supporters on here, ever. 

What ever happened to that Yosemite  Sam guy with the handlebar moustache and the no swearing policy on their launch video, the guy with the "save Hakeem" banners?  ... 
Feel sorry for the few supporters these guys managed to gather around their realestate scam. I hope at least when the house and land packages have been sold and the mini shopping centre/ training ground they build on land GIFTED to them by the council is complete, they don't just pull stumps on the club and leave all the fans in the lurch.... Im sure they'll  build the shops, and corporate office space but the "stadium" will be be a little underwhelming by then.... Oh well sleep with dogs you wake up with fleas I suppose.


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Given the training venue was announced last year and stated to start in early 2021, it’s getting beyond a joke. 

The last stadium update was earlier this year but once again silence since.

Given the huge form slump that occurred during this season, the more the silence goes on the more will question whether everything behind closer doors is not falling apart. There’s just no confidence in their ability to deliver. 

Get a move on WU/WMG.

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Monoethnic Social Club - 7 Jun 2021 10:37 PM
charlied - 7 Jun 2021 8:00 PM

What ever happened to that Yosemite  Sam guy with the handlebar moustache and the no swearing policy on their launch video, the guy with the "save Hakeem" banners?  ... 
Feel sorry for the few supporters these guys managed to gather around their realestate scam. I hope at least when the house and land packages have been sold and the mini shopping centre/ training ground they build on land GIFTED to them by the council is complete, they don't just pull stumps on the club and leave all the fans in the lurch.... Im sure they'll  build the shops, and corporate office space but the "stadium" will be be a little underwhelming by then.... Oh well sleep with dogs you wake up with fleas I suppose.


Ah you mean jimbo? Guy has been disowned by the wu active support . And he tried to weasel himself back to mv but active don't want nothing to do with him. He was front and centre when mv tried to get our academy at footscray Park but he was also disowned by the people as well. 
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 7 Jun 2021 10:56 PM
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Ah you mean jimbo? Guy has been disowned by the wu active support . And he tried to weasel himself back to mv but active don't want nothing to do with him. He was front and centre when mv tried to get our academy at footscray Park but he was also disowned by the people as well. 

Hahahah superfan eh? 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 7 Jun 2021 11:06 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 7 Jun 2021 10:56 PM

Hahahah superfan eh? 

He's a nutter.  Claimed to speak to Desmond tutu and said we were a shoe in for the 2022 World cup.  Claim his we are Football stickers would help and on here cost us the world cup due to certain poster attacking him.  And when u confront him about it, he claims it wasn't him
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We need these sorts of characters back on this forum, if nothing else, for the entertainment value!

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bettega - 7 Jun 2021 11:53 PM
We need these sorts of characters back on this forum, if nothing else, for the entertainment value!

Jimbo won't come back here  .  His ego won't allow for it and he'll claim he never was on here 
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Melbcityguy - 7 Jun 2021 1:17 PM
charlied - 7 Jun 2021 1:04 PM

Yeah I love the a league but I can’t defend them.

we really need to get rid of them before next season 

They are not my team, i'm with Syd Oly but if they start digging in a couple of months will all this get retracted becsuse of non patience? What about buying a 1 year membership as a truce? Wait, I'll remind everyone then.
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Heart_fan - 7 Jun 2021 10:53 PM
Given the training venue was announced last year and stated to start in early 2021, it’s getting beyond a joke. 

The last stadium update was earlier this year but once again silence since.

Given the huge form slump that occurred during this season, the more the silence goes on the more will question whether everything behind closer doors is not falling apart. There’s just no confidence in their ability to deliver. 

Get a move on WU/WMG.

The former CEO of Maribyrnong council (who was there when they rejected the Victory COE) is now CEO of Wyndham council. This shouldn’t be a problem. Kate Roffey is in charge of getting this project delivered. But it just adds another layer to people’s concerns at a time when there is no communication at all to stakeholders. There is no doubt in my mind the stadium will be built, but the lack of news is so fucking frustrating.

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Feed_The_Brox - 8 Jun 2021 11:06 AM

Heart_fan - 7 Jun 2021 10:53 PM

The former CEO of Maribyrnong council (who was there when they rejected the Victory COE) is now CEO of Wyndham council. This shouldn’t be a problem. Kate Roffey is in charge of getting this project delivered. But it just adds another layer to people’s concerns at a time when there is no communication at all to stakeholders. There is no doubt in my mind the stadium will be built, but the lack of news is so fucking frustrating.

No doubt? Do have a concrete basis for your confidence?
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WU might have expansion in their supporter base if the rumour of Kev Muscat to take over from Rudan now that they have mutually parted ways. Hemed has left Welly and he could end up either @ WU or Victory.
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soccerfoo - 8 Jun 2021 10:53 AM
Melbcityguy - 7 Jun 2021 1:17 PM

They are not my team, i'm with Syd Oly but if they start digging in a couple of months will all this get retracted becsuse of non patience? What about buying a 1 year membership as a truce? Wait, I'll remind everyone then.

As I mentioned to someone else on this thread ages ago. Ill buy the beers at their first game at the Tarneit Stadium.... Provided it is built by 2028 ... that's 10 years from when they where granted the license.... fair enough?
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License will be given to another group after next season. 

Their stadium or whatever plans wont happen. 

Give License to Wollongong
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jasongenova - 8 Jun 2021 6:03 PM
License will be given to another group after next season. 

Their stadium or whatever plans wont happen. 

Give License to Wollongong

My guess is they are trying to get funds to pay for this stadium. Or whatever development is meant to start. 
 if they are looking to build a proper stadium for professional sports I’d estimate you need minimum $100M. 

So there may be some wheeling and dealing going on behind the scenes trying to find some silly investors to pump in the cash? For some ROi from the future property development. 

In the current environment is anyone stupid enough to part with this kind of money?
Does anyone currently involved with the clu. Have the money to build something g like this?? I’m not sure. 

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You would also think that their business case for the stadium would have been based on much higher attendances than they are getting. 995 attendees ain't paying no bills








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Butler99 - 8 Jun 2021 6:10 PM
jasongenova - 8 Jun 2021 6:03 PM

My guess is they are trying to get funds to pay for this stadium. Or whatever development is meant to start. 
 if they are looking to build a proper stadium for professional sports I’d estimate you need minimum $100M. 

So there may be some wheeling and dealing going on behind the scenes trying to find some silly investors to pump in the cash? For some ROi from the future property development. 

In the current environment is anyone stupid enough to part with this kind of money?
Does anyone currently involved with the clu. Have the money to build something g like this?? I’m not sure. 

It was supposed to start when they got the licence . Yes covid has put a  break on things but having having offices for lease for about 2 years and having their merch shop leased out doesn't bode well
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 8 Jun 2021 6:51 PM
Butler99 - 8 Jun 2021 6:10 PM

It was supposed to start when they got the licence . Yes covid has put a  break on things but having having offices for lease for about 2 years and having their merch shop leased out doesn't bode well

The land can be shovel ready as much as they like. 
But Won’t start with no funds. 
I don’t think anyone in the aleague has the willingness to part with funds to build an asset like a stadium. 

The club would most likely  be looking for a “partner” to build the stadium. 
I think  is the biggest stumbling block 


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AJF - 8 Jun 2021 6:43 PM
You would also think that their business case for the stadium would have been based on much higher attendances than they are getting. 995 attendees ain't paying no bills

990 mate, don't count the ball boys. lol
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