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bohemia - 20 Jan 2023 9:27 AM
ErogenousZone - 16 Jan 2023 1:11 PM

Wyndham City has video updates on its youtube video. Last update I saw was October but it looked significantly progressed at that point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0YCDQM0QUo&ab_channel=WyndhamCity

That's been around for a long while. WU have put alot of energy into Tasmanua, is that a sign of an eventual shift further south?
If funds have been promised by lib government but withheld, there may not be a 15k capacity Stadium at all. The  training grounds at best.
Has construction of the training grounds commenced again in January? Who knows.
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ErogenousZone - 16 Jan 2023 1:11 PM
Melbcityguy - 15 Jan 2023 5:10 PM

May ?   That's quicker than I expected.   I'd like to see some progress pictures or articles if any exist.    

Like the 2nd Division actually happening I'll believe it when I see it.   

Wyndham City has video updates on its youtube video. Last update I saw was October but it looked significantly progressed at that point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0YCDQM0QUo&ab_channel=WyndhamCity

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Heart_fan - 17 Jan 2023 1:09 PM

It will be a very long wait for the stadium, but the training facility won't be surrounded by nothing for long. Houses are shooting up in Tarneit quicker than anywhere. It was be surrounded by shops and houses inside 2 years. 

Especially now that the precinct won't get the $100m in gov funding that the libs promised. I reckon they may still end up getting gov funding at some point, it just won't be anytime soon.
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Heart_fan - 17 Jan 2023 1:09 PM
The training base will be a weird one as it is surrounded by…. Nothing. It will likely be very windy and exposed to the elements.

Temporary seating without any cover will be very interesting, but given that there has been no mention of the actual stadium going ahead, I tend to think it’s getting more and more likely that they will have to deal with this solution for a long time.

It will be a very long wait for the stadium, but the training facility won't be surrounded by nothing for long. Houses are shooting up in Tarneit quicker than anywhere. It was be surrounded by shops and houses inside 2 years. 

In terms of the Somers Street discussion, my understanding is that WU had offered Melbourne Knights 250k per season and other revenues per game, however this wasn't enough for the Knights, who didn't want them to use Somers Street. Understandable but frustrating for the general supporter.

What should have happened is that they should have used Melbourne Showgrounds and built temporary seating around the sidelines that don't have permanent seats. That would have allowed a permanent home to be created, and not have to deal with the politics of using another teams venue. 

Perth Glory have made the most of a horrible situation this season, and its a shame that WU couldnt have done this from the start. 
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The training base will be a weird one as it is surrounded by…. Nothing. It will likely be very windy and exposed to the elements.

Temporary seating without any cover will be very interesting, but given that there has been no mention of the actual stadium going ahead, I tend to think it’s getting more and more likely that they will have to deal with this solution for a long time.
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soccerfoo - 16 Jan 2023 3:09 PM
roosty - 16 Jan 2023 2:43 PM

Pelivanis was saying in podcasts that with temporary seating they can get a capacity of up to around 8-10 thousand. Like to see that.

Don't know about that. 
Pipedream. 

That the same bloke who said they're playing home game at Lakeside Stadium??  
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roosty - 16 Jan 2023 2:43 PM
With temporary seating the whole way around they could probably get to about 5k, similar to what they achieved with Macedonia Park and Upper Hutt in Wellington. That will do fine as an A league venue until they (if) start building the real stadium. 

Pelivanis was saying in podcasts that with temporary seating they can get a capacity of up to around 8-10 thousand. Like to see that.
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With temporary seating the whole way around they could probably get to about 5k, similar to what they achieved with Macedonia Park and Upper Hutt in Wellington. That will do fine as an A league venue until they (if) start building the real stadium. 
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Melbcityguy - 15 Jan 2023 5:10 PM
So their stadium sorry training facility is supposed to be completed by may. Is there any update on how it's going?

May ?   That's quicker than I expected.   I'd like to see some progress pictures or articles if any exist.    

Like the 2nd Division actually happening I'll believe it when I see it.   
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So their stadium sorry training facility is supposed to be completed by may. Is there any update on how it's going?
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Melbcityguy - 19 Nov 2022 4:29 PM
Why don’t western play at city vista where the women’s team are playing? 

This would only work when they play City because the ground would cope with a couple people and a few stray dogs

You're not going fit 15k if they play Victory 
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Why don’t western play at city vista where the women’s team are playing? 
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A teams wins the title and doesn't have a home ground.  Only in the A League.

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soccerfoo - 1 Nov 2022 6:22 PM
Butler99 - 30 Oct 2022 11:32 PM

WU are helping to prop up the Jets, you reckon they cant afford extra seating? C'mon.
Melbourne Croatia wanted WU to refurbish they're Stadium for them whilst WU were to be tenants there. p..off to them! WU want to build their own, not refurbish someone else's as well.

We'll see what happens with the council built venue. 
No chance there'll be 5000 seats. 

WU are probably paying 100k to play at AAMI. Probably paid more at kardinia park. 
Putting that money towards Somers st improvements and playing there for a few years would've benefitted everyone. 

They have to pay someone. Wouldn't it have been better to put it towards a grassroots venue in the west?
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Butler99 - 30 Oct 2022 11:32 PM

Council built or not. Their own training facility with a stadium being 5k or more is fantastic. MV still training on a public dog park. 

Not criticising the training venue being built. 
Great for the club 

All I am saying is the 5000 capacity built venue will not be 5000 seats. A council won't expand it to a 5000 seated venue.  That is my point. 

Epping is a 5000 capacity venue. Only 1000 seats. No one thinks that'll be a great A-league venue. 

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Butler99 - 30 Oct 2022 11:32 PM
soccerfoo - 30 Oct 2022 10:21 PM

Either way, this is council built. 
Adding seats to the capacity will be more expensive than just doing terracing or hills. 
No way council will increase budget to fund seating to expand capacity. 

Careful of the rhetoric. 
Seating and capacity are 2 very different things. 

My point still stands. 
They could've used Somers st stadium if this is what they will move to next year. 


Council built or not. Their own training facility with a stadium being 5k or more is fantastic. MV still training on a public dog park. 
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Butler99 - 30 Oct 2022 11:32 PM
soccerfoo - 30 Oct 2022 10:21 PM

Either way, this is council built. 
Adding seats to the capacity will be more expensive than just doing terracing or hills. 
No way council will increase budget to fund seating to expand capacity. 

Careful of the rhetoric. 
Seating and capacity are 2 very different things. 

My point still stands. 
They could've used Somers st stadium if this is what they will move to next year. 


WU are helping to prop up the Jets, you reckon they cant afford extra seating? C'mon.
Melbourne Croatia wanted WU to refurbish they're Stadium for them whilst WU were to be tenants there. p..off to them! WU want to build their own, not refurbish someone else's as well.
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ctrl - 29 Oct 2022 7:56 PM
Hope the training stadium is ready for next season. As a Melbourne-based A-League fan, it sucks having no derbies outside of AAMI Park. 

Derbies will most like still be at AAMI Park. The training ground will just be used for non-Victorian opposition. It's still undetermined whether they will continue bothering to hsot games in Geelong, Ballarat, Tasmania and what have you.
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soccerfoo - 30 Oct 2022 10:21 PM
Butler99 - 30 Oct 2022 10:16 PM

Thats just an image. The trees won't be there. Heard Pehlivanis might add enough seating to get the capacity up to 8k. Even 5k will do WU for the moment.

Either way, this is council built. 
Adding seats to the capacity will be more expensive than just doing terracing or hills. 
No way council will increase budget to fund seating to expand capacity. 

Careful of the rhetoric. 
Seating and capacity are 2 very different things. 

My point still stands. 
They could've used Somers st stadium if this is what they will move to next year. 


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Butler99 - 30 Oct 2022 10:16 PM
aussie pride - 29 Oct 2022 6:22 PM

If they're considering playing here, then it is ludicrous they didn't consider playing at Somers st these past few years. 

This training base will be lucky to have 2000 seats. 

This looks like the Ballarat football venue. Morsehead?




Thats just an image. The trees won't be there. Heard Pehlivanis might add enough seating to get the capacity up to 8k. Even 5k will do WU for the moment.
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aussie pride - 29 Oct 2022 6:22 PM
I've seen a council update on the training facility.
Regardless of how 'compromised' it is from the what was 'shovel ready' and promised.
Western United HAVE to play games there next season as AAMI Park matches are a poor look and would see unsustainable losses.
At least it would be a home base to build a core following.
If they need temporary stands to get the seating capacity up and build up some hills behind the goals it's better than the current arrangement. 

https://youtu.be/e0YCDQM0QUo



REGIONAL FOOTBALL FACILITY UPDATE:
Construction is progressing at a cracking pace! With the level one floor structure now in place and the pavilion taking shape, work is progressing onto the grandstand of the facility.
Works continue with the establishment of the football pitches and the surrounding road and utility supplies.
Located within the Wyndham Stadium Precinct at 1160 Sayers Road, the Regional Football Facility will be the training base for Western United Football Club and football across the West.
Once complete, the Regional Football Facility will feature state-of-the-art training amenities, including three football pitches and capacity for 5000 spectators at the main pitch.

Regional Football Facility (Training Facilities)

If they're considering playing here, then it is ludicrous they didn't consider playing at Somers st these past few years. 

This training base will be lucky to have 2000 seats. 

This looks like the Ballarat football venue. Morsehead?




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Hope the training stadium is ready for next season. As a Melbourne-based A-League fan, it sucks having no derbies outside of AAMI Park. 
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I've seen a council update on the training facility.
Regardless of how 'compromised' it is from the what was 'shovel ready' and promised.
Western United HAVE to play games there next season as AAMI Park matches are a poor look and would see unsustainable losses.
At least it would be a home base to build a core following.
If they need temporary stands to get the seating capacity up and build up some hills behind the goals it's better than the current arrangement. 

https://youtu.be/e0YCDQM0QUo



REGIONAL FOOTBALL FACILITY UPDATE:
Construction is progressing at a cracking pace! With the level one floor structure now in place and the pavilion taking shape, work is progressing onto the grandstand of the facility.
Works continue with the establishment of the football pitches and the surrounding road and utility supplies.
Located within the Wyndham Stadium Precinct at 1160 Sayers Road, the Regional Football Facility will be the training base for Western United Football Club and football across the West.
Once complete, the Regional Football Facility will feature state-of-the-art training amenities, including three football pitches and capacity for 5000 spectators at the main pitch.

Regional Football Facility (Training Facilities)

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Flytox - 3 Oct 2022 8:16 PM

The station for Sayers Rd might be the one they are referring to as "in the planning".  It makes sense that it isn't in this lot as the customers won't be there until the houses start being built.

I was thinking that they were only building 1 train station. but with so much growth in the area, and future electrification coming, there is scope to build Sayers Rd as well. 


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Flytox - 3 Oct 2022 12:42 PM

Yeah i saw that. If they built a walking track parallel to the train line from the new station location to Wyndham stadium, I would estimate it to be about 2km or a 20 minute walk. Maybe slightly closer if the station is located west of David Rd. Not ideal for WU, but not the end of the world either.

The station for Sayers Rd might be the one they are referring to as "in the planning".  It makes sense that it isn't in this lot as the customers won't be there until the houses start being built.
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Flytox - 3 Oct 2022 12:42 PM

Yeah i saw that. If they built a walking track parallel to the train line from the new station location to Wyndham stadium, I would estimate it to be about 2km or a 20 minute walk. Maybe slightly closer if the station is located west of David Rd. Not ideal for WU, but not the end of the world either.

Shame they cant get the state government to build them a new train station 800 meters away like we did :)
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Flytox - 3 Oct 2022 12:42 PM

It appears that the station will be on Davis Rd not the Sayers Rd station that will be next to Western United's proposed home ground.

Yeah i saw that. If they built a walking track parallel to the train line from the new station location to Wyndham stadium, I would estimate it to be about 2km or a 20 minute walk. Maybe slightly closer if the station is located west of David Rd. Not ideal for WU, but not the end of the world either.

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Melbcityguy - 4 Aug 2022 7:29 AM

Interesting how it will eventually play out for WU.
I hope they grow their fanbase. They will need to play at home for that to happen, when it gets going eventually.
I have a quick Melbourne restaurant story that parallels with your thinking  in regards to WU not going to grow their fanbase. It's an only in Melbourne story I reckon.
I went to Lygon St (Carlton?) To see all the Italian restaurants I'd heard about. Tt was a typically busy Sat night I'd say.
Afew blocks in, there were two particular restaurants next to each other, one was Italian, the other something different, European though, I won't say. There was a Massive line to get in at the Itaian one, the other was completed empty.
Not one person inside. Right next door, both looked like very tidy places to go and eat. The true loyalty to the Italian restaurants because it's Lygon St, I thought.
Having experienced that nothing will surprise me.
That could be the case with the fan base situation. Fans may not leave their clubs to start supporting WU  due to their undying loyalties.
What may save WU as time goes on, Wyndham City is nowhere near the older NSL clubs, as they are all in and around Melbourne, the City ( besides George Cross).
The target market for them is mainly near the new precinct which is going up  40 + klms from Melbourne.




Your right, they are not "next door" to anything, let alone another club :)



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It's been a very long time since Lygon St was considered as being predominantly Italian.

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soccerfoo - 3 Aug 2022 9:49 PM

Good discussion don’t mind your opinion I just think western are a waste of time they won’t expand their fanbase playing in 

Interesting how it will eventually play out for WU.
I hope they grow their fanbase. They will need to play at home for that to happen, when it gets going eventually.
I have a quick Melbourne restaurant story that parallels with your thinking  in regards to WU not going to grow their fanbase. It's an only in Melbourne story I reckon.
I went to Lygon St (Carlton?) To see all the Italian restaurants I'd heard about. Tt was a typically busy Sat night I'd say.
Afew blocks in, there were two particular restaurants next to each other, one was Italian, the other something different, European though, I won't say. There was a Massive line to get in at the Itaian one, the other was completed empty.
Not one person inside. Right next door, both looked like very tidy places to go and eat. The true loyalty to the Italian restaurants because it's Lygon St, I thought.
Having experienced that nothing will surprise me.
That could be the case with the fan base situation. Fans may not leave their clubs to start supporting WU  due to their undying loyalties.
What may save WU as time goes on, Wyndham City is nowhere near the older NSL clubs, as they are all in and around Melbourne, the City ( besides George Cross).
The target market for them is mainly near the new precinct which is going up  40 + klms from Melbourne.




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