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Feed_The_Brox - 15 Jul 2019 3:35 PM
JayEss - 15 Jul 2019 2:25 PM

they will be. I don't think they excluded WU from the FFA cup because they couldn't have built a squad in time. They did it because the FFA didn't have time to make adjustments to the format. If there were 11 HAL teams this year, it means 1 less NPL team at the round of 32 level. So which state or team would have missed out on a spot? Of course there will be 12 HAL teams in 2020, but they have another 7 months to find a solution. something they didn't have when they annouced the new licences last December.  

Perfect time to go to a round of 64 then.

- 12 A-League
- 10 NSW
- 10 VIC
- 10 QLD
- 6 WA
- 4 NNSW
- 4 TAS
- 3 SA
- 3 ACT
- 2 NT

(Don't look too much into what state is allocated how many spots, I just wanted the numbers to add up to 64 lol)
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Melbcityguy - 16 Jul 2019 7:25 AM
under 8k likes on their facebook page is that something to worry about? 

Absolutely not. It takes genuine content to get “likes” and I’d say 8k before a ball is licked is pretty good. 
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evolution - 16 Jul 2019 7:43 AM

Perfect time to go to a round of 64 then.


makes sense, but it might not be affordable. the round of 64 involves 32 games. this could involve 20-25 games where the away team has to travel. thats comparable to 4-5 rounds of the HAL. who's gonna pay for this? 
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Feed_The_Brox - 16 Jul 2019 10:34 AM
evolution - 16 Jul 2019 7:43 AM

makes sense, but it might not be affordable. the round of 64 involves 32 games. this could involve 20-25 games where the away team has to travel. thats comparable to 4-5 rounds of the HAL. who's gonna pay for this? 

The FFA, it's their competition.
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Claudio Marchisio linked with WU (OzFootballTwitter). Free agent after leaving Zenit 1 year into 2 year deal. 33 years old. 

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marconi101 - 16 Jul 2019 12:25 PM
Claudio Marchisio linked with WU (OzFootballTwitter). Free agent after leaving Zenit 1 year into 2 year deal. 33 years old. 

Would be phenomenal 
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josh sydneyfc - 16 Jul 2019 12:32 PM
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Would be phenomenal 

I don't know how possible this is. His latest contact was around 9.5 million dollars AUD per season at Zenit which he didn't even get most of it due to his fitness issues. 
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Volkz - 16 Jul 2019 12:52 PM
josh sydneyfc - 16 Jul 2019 12:32 PM

I don't know how possible this is. His latest contact was around 9.5 million dollars AUD per season at Zenit which he didn't even get most of it due to his fitness issues. 

He should therefore demand less in a shorter, smaller league. Zenit quite obviously overpaid and realised it. 

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Feed_The_Brox - 16 Jul 2019 10:34 AM
evolution - 16 Jul 2019 7:43 AM

makes sense, but it might not be affordable. the round of 64 involves 32 games. this could involve 20-25 games where the away team has to travel. thats comparable to 4-5 rounds of the HAL. who's gonna pay for this? 

Incentive for the FFA to grow the Cup and have another revenue stream.
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marconi101 - 16 Jul 2019 1:01 PM
Volkz - 16 Jul 2019 12:52 PM

He should therefore demand less in a shorter, smaller league. Zenit quite obviously overpaid and realised it. 

He'll probably demand the same or probably a couple million less. Zenit didn't even overpay, it would of only went past his Juve salary on match conditions which he didn't get. I can't see him going from 12-10 million AUD to 9 million AUD (which he is angry that he didn't receive most of it) then to 2-3 million AUD, which is around what most A-league/Fox Sports/FFA can dish out on a guest.
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Fan forum in Ballarat tonight, will be interesting if there’s any questions regarding the stadium choice in Ballarat.
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Anyone know if there stadium to be build is going to be a oval>? or rectangle?. Just because of AFL in that area might want somewhere to play.  

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nomates - 17 Jul 2019 1:31 PM
Anyone know if there stadium to be build is going to be a oval>? or rectangle?. Just because of AFL in that area might want somewhere to play.  

Rectangular 
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nomates - 17 Jul 2019 1:31 PM
Anyone know if there stadium to be build is going to be a oval>? or rectangle?. Just because of AFL in that area might want somewhere to play.  

They have said it will be rectangular and strictly football exclusive. 
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nomates - 17 Jul 2019 1:31 PM
Anyone know if there stadium to be build is going to be a oval>? or rectangle?. Just because of AFL in that area might want somewhere to play.  

If they're even entertaining the thought of building an oval so that the AFL can be satisfied they should forfeit their license on the spot. The AFL have more than enough spots to play their fumbleball in that god forsaken state. 

WOLLONGONG WOLVES FOR A-LEAGUE EXPANSION!

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nomates - 17 Jul 2019 1:31 PM
Anyone know if there stadium to be build is going to be a oval>? or rectangle?. Just because of AFL in that area might want somewhere to play.  

Think AFL are looking to fix Whitten Oval up in the future so completely separate.

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nomates - 17 Jul 2019 1:31 PM
Anyone know if there stadium to be build is going to be a oval>? or rectangle?. Just because of AFL in that area might want somewhere to play.  

I don't get this post. are you trying to be funny? One of the benefits of this bid is that the AFL can't get their dirty fingerprints all over the stadium design as its privately funded. This would have been the concern had Team 11 received its government funding for Dandenong stadium. I can imagine the AFL weaving its heavy governmental influence over it. 
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Glory Recruit - 17 Jul 2019 1:04 PM
Fan forum in Ballarat tonight, will be interesting if there’s any questions regarding the stadium choice in Ballarat.

There bloody should be.

Speaking to my old man who lives in Ballarat today and he was confused as to why they'd go for Eureka/Mars Stadium, he said it's so windy there any ball that goes over head height gets swept away!

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Feed_The_Brox - 16 Jul 2019 10:34 AM
evolution - 16 Jul 2019 7:43 AM

makes sense, but it might not be affordable. the round of 64 involves 32 games. this could involve 20-25 games where the away team has to travel. thats comparable to 4-5 rounds of the HAL. who's gonna pay for this? 

Just regionalise the draw for the Round of 64. WA/SA, VIC/TAS, NSW/ACT, NNSW/QLD. The NT team can be the wildcard.
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Feed_The_Brox - 17 Jul 2019 3:35 PM
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I don't get this post. are you trying to be funny? One of the benefits of this bid is that the AFL can't get their dirty fingerprints all over the stadium design as its privately funded. This would have been the concern had Team 11 received its government funding for Dandenong stadium. I can imagine the AFL weaving its heavy governmental influence over it. 

Team 11 should be asking for, and getting State government funding for the stadium on the basis it is a multi functional stadium suitable for football AND AFL-X.
You have to play them at their own game.
Every local club should be doing the same.
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paladisious - 17 Jul 2019 3:42 PM
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There bloody should be.

Speaking to my old man who lives in Ballarat today and he was confused as to why they'd go for Eureka/Mars Stadium, he said it's so windy there any ball that goes over head height gets swept away!

They basically said the FFA have facility and broadcasting requirements that Morshead Park doesn't meet. I tend to agree. Mars is the wrong shape but it has much better facilities.
They will play a pre-season match at Morshead Park, possible against Roar or Glory on September 21, but any competition games will be at Mars Stadium.

I didn't get a great sense that they were going to be here for the long haul with regular-season games. Ballarat seems to be a stepping stone until the new stadium is built, after which we might get a pre-season game each year. I mean, that's better than what we have now but it's hard to get attached to a side when there's no certainty they will continue to represent us.

Rudan is a grumpy bugger, but he seemed genuine in his desire to win the league. There were questions about recruiting local lads, and he just said point-blank, the only thing that builds an A-League club is winning trophies. They will provide pathways but there are no free passes for Geelong and Ballarat players.

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imonfourfourtwo - 17 Jul 2019 8:25 PM
paladisious - 17 Jul 2019 3:42 PM

They basically said the FFA have facility and broadcasting requirements that Morshead Park doesn't meet. I tend to agree. Mars is the wrong shape but it has much better facilities.
They will play a pre-season match at Morshead Park, possible against Roar or Glory on September 21, but any competition games will be at Mars Stadium.

I didn't get a great sense that they were going to be here for the long haul with regular-season games. Ballarat seems to be a stepping stone until the new stadium is built, after which we might get a pre-season game each year. I mean, that's better than what we have now but it's hard to get attached to a side when there's no certainty they will continue to represent us.

Rudan is a grumpy bugger, but he seemed genuine in his desire to win the league. There were questions about recruiting local lads, and he just said point-blank, the only thing that builds an A-League club is winning trophies. They will provide pathways but there are no free passes for Geelong and Ballarat players.

Given that they need to make the new stadium work financially, there really isn’t going to be any expectation that they will play regular season matches at Geelong or Ballarat.

From Ballarat it is an easy drive to Tarneit but the train is less direct but not a deal breaker. 

Having an academy focus on the wider western region and playing pre-season matches there and possibly some FFA Cup matches will still provide a significant boost to football.

As for the players, I would have liked to see more NPL players get an opportunity, but it’s fairly clear that Rudan is thinking about results first this year.
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You're a pretty frequent poster on Western United threads Heart_fan, are you thinking of making the switch?
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433 - 17 Jul 2019 9:13 PM
You're a pretty frequent poster on Western United threads Heart_fan, are you thinking of making the switch?

Not on the agenda but I do want to see them succeed for the good of the competition.

I live in the Western suburbs and think they have potential to make it work, but the 2 year delay in playing in Tarneit is a significant challenge they will have to overcome. Likely calling themselves the Nomads would have likely been more fitting. 

Making sure it is a genuine attempt to engage with Geelong and Ballarat will be key in the meantime, and let’s hope they can continue to build that in the future. 
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Heart_fan - 17 Jul 2019 9:38 PM
433 - 17 Jul 2019 9:13 PM

Not on the agenda but I do want to see them succeed for the good of the competition.

I live in the Western suburbs and think they have potential to make it work, but the 2 year delay in playing in Tarneit is a significant challenge they will have to overcome. Likely calling themselves the Nomads would have likely been more fitting. 

Making sure it is a genuine attempt to engage with Geelong and Ballarat will be key in the meantime, and let’s hope they can continue to build that in the future. 

You're going to turn. From one shambles to another. how sad. 


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Heart_fan - 17 Jul 2019 9:38 PM

You're going to turn. From one shambles to another. how sad. 

Haha... nah. No need to move. City may well be harder to connect with, but they are still my team :)
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MarkfromCroydon - 17 Jul 2019 3:49 PM
Team 11 should be asking for, and getting State government funding for the stadium on the basis it is a multi functional stadium suitable for football AND AFL-X.
You have to play them at their own game.
Every local club should be doing the same.

surprising post for someone who comes across as a bit of a football purist. We should be moving away from the idea of playing in multi purpose stadiums. As a Victory fan, I want my club to have a long term goal of building its own stadium. even if it takes 20-30 years, I would still like to see a strategic plan from my club to make this happen.
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Heart_fan - 17 Jul 2019 9:38 PM
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Making sure it is a genuine attempt to engage with Geelong and Ballarat will be key in the meantime, and let’s hope they can continue to build that in the future. 

engage with Geelong and Ballarat?

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Feed_The_Brox - 18 Jul 2019 9:52 AM
MarkfromCroydon - 17 Jul 2019 3:49 PM

surprising post for someone who comes across as a bit of a football purist. We should be moving away from the idea of playing in multi purpose stadiums. As a Victory fan, I want my club to have a long term goal of building its own stadium. even if it takes 20-30 years, I would still like to see a strategic plan from my club to make this happen.

We'd better get a wriggle on then, there aren't too many available locations left for a major stadium in central Melbourne. Once the E Gate is gone (if it isn't already), I think that's about it.
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