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+x+xA league all stars vs Barcelona is lose loss for the a league if barca wins a league is shit if a league wins they beat Barca’s thirds team I hope a league beats them Theses games are a cancer IMHO. Leave the gimmicks for other sports. The fact that you can't tackle or run at 100% tells me that they are waste of money. I remember going to Sydney vs Arsenal and promising to myself I'd never go to another game like this.
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+x+x+xA few people got very personal with me because I said they are plastic for supporting a overseas team coming here for a friendly instead of supporting an a league team. Strange world we live in Supporting a franchise is as plastic as they come. Nearly as plastic as supporting a mono ethnic social club who just happens to field a semi pro football team on the side. Hahahah I wasnt posting back then but must have read this back when I was just a passive observer.... whatever happened to the original Latinosnob from Croydon?
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+x+xA league all stars vs Barcelona is lose loss for the a league if barca wins a league is shit if a league wins they beat Barca’s thirds team I hope a league beats them Theses games are a cancer IMHO. Leave the gimmicks for other sports. The fact that you can't tackle or run at 100% tells me that they are waste of money. yep its show trial game more than anything else....... Just like any pre season game, you don't put in 100% but worse for these ones the ledger will be a draw or a 3-2 win to Barca to present it was a really close contest but thankyou for the gate takings.
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+xA league all stars vs Barcelona is lose loss for the a league if barca wins a league is shit if a league wins they beat Barca’s thirds team I hope a league beats them Theses games are a cancer IMHO. Leave the gimmicks for other sports. The fact that you can't tackle or run at 100% tells me that they are waste of money.
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+xA league all stars vs Barcelona is lose loss for the a league if barca wins a league is shit if a league wins they beat Barca’s thirds team I hope a league beats them Is this the one being "coached" by Dwight? Is he having a pre game camp with the whole squad to go over the game plan and tactics? Maybe a few sessions to work on set pieces? Blame the Eurosnobs all you want matey , the fact that some dumbc#nt promoter has you already cheering for the "Aleague Allstars" means you've already lost.....
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A league all stars vs Barcelona is lose loss for the a league if
barca wins a league is shit
if a league wins they beat Barca’s thirds team
I hope a league beats them
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+x+x+xIf the epl stops and the a league keeps it’s momentum could be another chance to get the eurosnobs don't forget there are other euro leagues that may not be effected. Anyway, I doubt many would change their habit but for a very small %. Myself as an eg for as you know I'm heavily invested in the EPL/Championship and keep close tabs on SerieA/LaLiga BUT I'm also heavily invested with my local grass roots football and NPL. Hence my interest since AL started, I support our game, I'm invested, whereas say the average eurosnob has his/hers kids playing locally or academies, would they make the time for NPL or AL ? doubt it. I find the eurosnob is usually ages 14-25 and going by what’s cool. there is plenty more mature eurosnobs imo. As for your demographic I get it, got 2 sons and players, the eldest hardly cares re AL, been to some games last few years the derbies if at all and prior. He's a passionate Spurs supporter, stays up all night watching EPL over the weekend (as all 3 of us do) - I ask him to come some other AL games, couldn't be bothered says it sucks meh....... 2nd eldest he's just passionste full stop, plays NPL, LFC watcher with me, reads everything football all OS comps and local comps, comes to AL games and many NPL games.
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+x+xIf the epl stops and the a league keeps it’s momentum could be another chance to get the eurosnobs don't forget there are other euro leagues that may not be effected. Anyway, I doubt many would change their habit but for a very small %. Myself as an eg for as you know I'm heavily invested in the EPL/Championship and keep close tabs on SerieA/LaLiga BUT I'm also heavily invested with my local grass roots football and NPL. Hence my interest since AL started, I support our game, I'm invested, whereas say the average eurosnob has his/hers kids playing locally or academies, would they make the time for NPL or AL ? doubt it. I find the eurosnob is usually ages 14-25 and going by what’s cool.
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+xIf the epl stops and the a league keeps it’s momentum could be another chance to get the eurosnobs don't forget there are other euro leagues that may not be effected. Anyway, I doubt many would change their habit but for a very small %. Myself as an eg for as you know I'm heavily invested in the EPL/Championship and keep close tabs on SerieA/LaLiga BUT I'm also heavily invested with my local grass roots football and NPL. Hence my interest since AL started, I support our game, I'm invested, whereas say the average eurosnob has his/hers kids playing locally or academies, would they make the time for NPL or AL ? doubt it.
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If the epl stops and the a league keeps it’s momentum could be another chance to get the eurosnobs
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+xthey should really go after leckie.... he would suit Bielsas system of just constant pressing/running... I’m not sure. Imo the goal should be to finish 14th-17th next season. I don’t really see any Australians I would want (that would be available). Possibly Mcgree But he would be cheap and on the bench. Premier League is too high a standard for Leckie I think. He would have had a crack already I think if offers had come. Even when he was in form in Bavaria he went to Berlin and not England. i think there may be many players to choose from as it would be an attractive club for players to join at the moment.
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they should really go after leckie.... he would suit Bielsas system of just constant pressing/running...
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+x+x+xMan have I seen some crap Euro games. Turns me off to know the millions the players get paid there. Extremely poor value for consumer money. Rather watch the HAL. So this mornings Juve Atleti game offered no value for money, as opposed to what MV put up last night against the seconds at Sanfrecca. You really are delusional Pick and choose hey lol. The Euros put all their eggs in one basket with $100's of millions per team and yet still produce crap. Poor value for entertainment overall but if you're addicted like druggies are you'll be prepared to pay for it. At least the HAL is cheap and just as entertaining. Wow, just spotted this post. Can’t believe how one can be so delusional. lol
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I'm really happy for a Yorkshire fella I play football with, he went to Perth for their games last year. Glad to see an great ol club back in the top flight.
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+x+x+x+x'Every second Aussie is a Leeds fan': English giant on verge of reawakening”...Many of the Whites' Australian fan-base came to support the club during their last period of success at the turn of the century. Thanks to the likes of Harry Kewell and Mark Viduka, and the other Australians who succeeded them, Leeds have enjoyed a healthy following down under for more than 20 years.The support base in Australia is a healthy mixture of ex-pats from Yorkshire, and Australians who warmed to the club in the late 1990s and early 2000s – particularly younger fans who were discovering European football for the first time.
....But when Leeds were relegated from the Premier League in 2004, much of their adolescent fanbase disappeared – many choosing to support Liverpool, where Harry Kewell was now plying his trade.”
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/every-second-aussie-is-a-leeds-fan-english-giant-on-verge-of-reawakening-20200714-p55c0f.html
Dont really care about Liverpool. As a Leeds fan I am happy when Man U don’t win. That doesn’t mean I want Liverpool or Man City to win however. Will be interesting to see if this is still the case, if all these 'fans' come back out of the woodwork I think they are many LU fans. I wasn’t happy especially when playing League 1 but in a way it was ok because now I am 40. I didn’t “have” to go to the pub every Saturday afternoon and watch the games because you could never get them. I know I would have though. Big 4 fans in Aus is Man U, Liverpool, Leeds and Newcastle I certainly hope that is the case. I do have a soft spot for Leeds #superwhites
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+x+x+x'Every second Aussie is a Leeds fan': English giant on verge of reawakening”...Many of the Whites' Australian fan-base came to support the club during their last period of success at the turn of the century. Thanks to the likes of Harry Kewell and Mark Viduka, and the other Australians who succeeded them, Leeds have enjoyed a healthy following down under for more than 20 years.The support base in Australia is a healthy mixture of ex-pats from Yorkshire, and Australians who warmed to the club in the late 1990s and early 2000s – particularly younger fans who were discovering European football for the first time.
....But when Leeds were relegated from the Premier League in 2004, much of their adolescent fanbase disappeared – many choosing to support Liverpool, where Harry Kewell was now plying his trade.”
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/every-second-aussie-is-a-leeds-fan-english-giant-on-verge-of-reawakening-20200714-p55c0f.html
Dont really care about Liverpool. As a Leeds fan I am happy when Man U don’t win. That doesn’t mean I want Liverpool or Man City to win however. Will be interesting to see if this is still the case, if all these 'fans' come back out of the woodwork I think they are many LU fans. I wasn’t happy especially when playing League 1 but in a way it was ok because now I am 40. I didn’t “have” to go to the pub every Saturday afternoon and watch the games because you could never get them. I know I would have though. Big 4 fans in Aus is Man U, Liverpool, Leeds and Newcastle I certainly hope that is the case. I do have a soft spot for Leeds
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Anyway, hope Hernandez plays and has a good next season. He has been very good last few years.
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+x+x'Every second Aussie is a Leeds fan': English giant on verge of reawakening”...Many of the Whites' Australian fan-base came to support the club during their last period of success at the turn of the century. Thanks to the likes of Harry Kewell and Mark Viduka, and the other Australians who succeeded them, Leeds have enjoyed a healthy following down under for more than 20 years.The support base in Australia is a healthy mixture of ex-pats from Yorkshire, and Australians who warmed to the club in the late 1990s and early 2000s – particularly younger fans who were discovering European football for the first time.
....But when Leeds were relegated from the Premier League in 2004, much of their adolescent fanbase disappeared – many choosing to support Liverpool, where Harry Kewell was now plying his trade.”
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/every-second-aussie-is-a-leeds-fan-english-giant-on-verge-of-reawakening-20200714-p55c0f.html
Dont really care about Liverpool. As a Leeds fan I am happy when Man U don’t win. That doesn’t mean I want Liverpool or Man City to win however. Will be interesting to see if this is still the case, if all these 'fans' come back out of the woodwork I think they are many LU fans. I wasn’t happy especially when playing League 1 but in a way it was ok because now I am 40. I didn’t “have” to go to the pub every Saturday afternoon and watch the games because you could never get them. I know I would have though. Big 4 fans in Aus is Man U, Liverpool, Leeds and Newcastle
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+x'Every second Aussie is a Leeds fan': English giant on verge of reawakening”...Many of the Whites' Australian fan-base came to support the club during their last period of success at the turn of the century. Thanks to the likes of Harry Kewell and Mark Viduka, and the other Australians who succeeded them, Leeds have enjoyed a healthy following down under for more than 20 years.The support base in Australia is a healthy mixture of ex-pats from Yorkshire, and Australians who warmed to the club in the late 1990s and early 2000s – particularly younger fans who were discovering European football for the first time.
....But when Leeds were relegated from the Premier League in 2004, much of their adolescent fanbase disappeared – many choosing to support Liverpool, where Harry Kewell was now plying his trade.”
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/every-second-aussie-is-a-leeds-fan-english-giant-on-verge-of-reawakening-20200714-p55c0f.html
Dont really care about Liverpool. As a Leeds fan I am happy when Man U don’t win. That doesn’t mean I want Liverpool or Man City to win however. Will be interesting to see if this is still the case, if all these 'fans' come back out of the woodwork
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'Every second Aussie is a Leeds fan': English giant on verge of reawakening”...Many of the Whites' Australian fan-base came to support the club during their last period of success at the turn of the century. Thanks to the likes of Harry Kewell and Mark Viduka, and the other Australians who succeeded them, Leeds have enjoyed a healthy following down under for more than 20 years.The support base in Australia is a healthy mixture of ex-pats from Yorkshire, and Australians who warmed to the club in the late 1990s and early 2000s – particularly younger fans who were discovering European football for the first time.
....But when Leeds were relegated from the Premier League in 2004, much of their adolescent fanbase disappeared – many choosing to support Liverpool, where Harry Kewell was now plying his trade.”
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/every-second-aussie-is-a-leeds-fan-english-giant-on-verge-of-reawakening-20200714-p55c0f.html
Dont really care about Liverpool. As a Leeds fan I am happy when Man U don’t win. That doesn’t mean I want Liverpool or Man City to win however.
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+x+xDecentric has a very low opinion of the intelligence of some Eurosnobs....! Whoever changed the wording of my post- you are a dickhead! Any closer to solving the mystery of the phantom post changer? Have you made a formal complaint to any mods? Surely their would be some kind of audit trail that would indicate who the wanker responsible is.
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+x+xDecentric has a very low opinion of the intelligence of some Eurosnobs....! Whoever changed the wording of my post- you are a dickhead! That is very poor form from whoever did. Regardless as to how one feels about a post, changing a post wording without stating who changed and why said post was changed is not on at all!!!*This coming from a previous mod on other forums and/or games.
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+xDecentric has a very low opinion of the intelligence of some Eurosnobs....! Whoever changed the wording of my post- you are a dickhead!
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+x+x+xI used to hate eurosnobs now im turning into one cause our game is run by donkeys I used to watch heaps of HAL, now I am also turning into a "eurosnob" because HAL is difficult to watch because - its hard to sustain a relationship with a club when every season there is massive player recycling, I used to live in England, and maintained interest in the game after moving here for some 20 years. I also lost interest though in the constant recycling of players and few Scousers playing for my club, Liverpool. Is the current EPL, and other big five leagues in Europe, much different from the current HAL in player turnover? Much different when the competition is only 15 years old but 160+ players have been at 3 or more clubs. Fitzgerald is 27 years old and at his 6th A League team lol. Tongyik is 22 and at his 5th side lol. Reddy has played for 70% of the teams in the competition. By the age of 25 Cernak was at his 6th A League team. We are into our fifteenth season and last I checked in that time period over 25 players had played for half the teams in the competition. These numbers do not include players who have had multiple stints for the same side. For example, Djulbic who is at Perth Glory for the third time in 10 years lol. I mean Brisbane last season brought in Babalj who was warming the pine in India ffs lol.
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+x+x+xI used to hate eurosnobs now im turning into one cause our game is run by donkeys I used to watch heaps of HAL, now I am also turning into a "eurosnob" because HAL is difficult to watch because - its hard to sustain a relationship with a club when every season there is massive player recycling, I used to live in England, and maintained interest in the game after moving here for some 20 years. I also lost interest though in the constant recycling of players and few Scousers playing for my club, Liverpool. Is the current EPL, and other big five leagues in Europe, much different from the current HAL in player turnover? Yes, because they don't keep players to one year contracts.
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+x+xI used to hate eurosnobs now im turning into one cause our game is run by donkeys I used to watch heaps of HAL, now I am also turning into a "eurosnob" because HAL is difficult to watch because - its hard to sustain a relationship with a club when every season there is massive player recycling, I used to live in England, and maintained interest in the game after moving here for some 20 years. I also lost interest though in the constant recycling of players and few Scousers playing for my club, Liverpool. Is the current EPL, and other big five leagues in Europe, much different from the current HAL in player turnover?
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+x+xI used to hate eurosnobs now im turning into one cause our game is run by donkeys I used to watch heaps of HAL, now I am also turning into a "eurosnob" because HAL is difficult to watch because - it is so slow and the constant back passing is boring Interesting you've made this assertion from the perspective of a highly trained football coach, AJF. From watching football in Spanish and French leagues I'd suggest there is just as much back passing in the patient build ups of most of their clubs. I'd contend that most HAL teams play a similar style to them at a lower standard and not as well. Looking at the last round and this round so far, I'm quite happy with the HAL standard. Although as Benjamin eruditely suggests, because we are improving very slowly, compared to some of our Asian rivals, effectively we are stagnating in relative terms. We are in a confederation that is improving fast. Long term it can only be good for our football. I'd also contend that many of international teams like Spain, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany and Croatia also use the back pass in patient build ups similar to most HAL clubs. From an analytical perspective, when the KNVB and Dutch first critiqued the game in Australia in the four main moments of the game; Ball Possession; Defensive Transition; Ball Possession Opposition; Attacking Transition; the ball was in DT and AT too much. In other words teams were constantly battling for possession of the ball. Neither team had the tactical and technical ability to maintain the ball for sustained periods and were able to progress the ball up the pitch in the build up with relative proficiency. Teams had to work very hard to maintain the ball. Now there has been a decided improvement in teams being able to retain the ball in Ball Possession for much longer periods - and - gain territory. This is a commendable achievement.
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+x+xRyan, Langerak, Mooy, Rogic, Arzani, Sainsbury, Kruse, Behich, Leckie, Mabil etc etc Thanks A League. It's good that you're happy with that group as representatives of how good the A-League has been in the last 15 years... Hard to argue with Ryan, Mooy and Leckie... Hopefully Arzani fulfils his potential and doesn't crash like Oar did... Rogic is pretty good so long as you don't expect him to play 90 minutes - and Sainsbury and Behich are showing signs of being top quality bench warmers in Holland... That said, if we look at the last 15 years of the NSL we get Schwarzer, Bosnich, Bresciano, Grella, Culina, Popovic, Muscat, Vidmar, Holman, Emerton, Chipperfield, Sterjovski, Cahill, Viduka, Aloisi - all of whom played at a high level in Europe for a number of seasons... . Bosnich and both Vidmars never played WC football. As European players many of them were not regulars at their clubs, but battled week in and week out for a starting place. Popovic had one season in the EPL, I think, but was not a starter. Muscat only played Championship and SPL.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x“NSL toe to toe with Argentina and Germany”?Just goes to show how massively delusional some are on here. Mind boggling really. His comment was that an NSL based side - ie/ golden generation - could go toe-to-toe with the big nations... Whereas the current squads, HAL developed, struggle... He is correct. They couldn't. They didn't qualify for a WC in 32 years of NSL. Where was the 2006 squad developed? Did it all happen in the first year of the HAL? Selective information, Benjamin. It took outside coaching expertise to galvanise that unit into a WC qualifying cohesive force for 2006. What occurred in 1978, 1982, 1986, 1990, 1994, 1998, 2002, was a collective failure. I passionately supported the Socceroos through all those failures - and - the only previous successful WC qualification in 1974. Losing to Iran ( twice), Israel and NZ meant something was malfunctioning. A lot more HAL players have played WC football, and Asian Cup football, than NSL players. Nothing wrong with the NSL either. It was our top league for a few decades. The squad developed in the NSL era is considered to be our Golden Generation - that's not selective information. As the Golden Generation players have dropped away, so to has the quality of the national team. You and I both know that given an Asian qualification pathway, with the back up of a play-off for being the 5th best team in the federation, the 1998, 2002 and 2006 squads would have breezed into the world cup finals. and the guy who scored both our goals at the 2018 World Cup was developed in the NSL too haha. Fun fact, the Socceroos have scored 13 goals in the last 4 World Cup tournaments. 0 of the Goal Scorers started out in the A League. (Cahill, Jedinak, Holman, Kewell, Moore, Aloisi) So are you saying the A League is nearly as bad as the NSL at producing players? In my opinion, the A League is much better at producing players. I don't think the A League has produced any players, though it has allowed a few players to move onto clubs that have developed them. Risdon and Grant have both doing a reasonable job at RB. They are products of the HAL exclusively.
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+x+x+xIf two teams of English League One footballers were to wear Celtic and Barcelona strips, played each other, and Aussie Eurosnobs were told they were the genuine Celtic and Barca line ups, I maintain many Eurosnobs in Australia wouldn't be able to discern the difference using football performance criteria.
Woohoo!!! This means I'm not a "Eurosnob", as I could tell the difference - Oh wait, I never was. In all seriousness, if a 'League One' side was to represent Barca, then you will need a 'Conference', or 'Conference League North' team to represent Celtic. Otherwise there will be those who question the teams in question. I put Eurosnobs into two categories, BB. 1. Benign ones, like many I know involved in the NPL football milieu, and those like yourself, who have involvement and interest in the local game, but don't rubbish football in Australia. Eurosnob is probably a misnomer. Eurofan is probably a more apt term. I have a number of friends off forum who fit into this category. On this forum, I usually find your posts and their posts interesting as they have genuine football perspectives. 2. Eurosnob Bitters - These were virtually unknown on this forum in the inaugural years and even 6 years ago. Since the FFA/ HAL club dichotomy, these bitter cynics appear to have contributed to driving FTBL forum into a downward spiral. They seem to put a tremendous amount of time and energy denigrating and mocking football in Australia. I have no time whatsoever for Bitter Eurosnobs. I've never met any off forum in the local football milieu. What these Eurosnob Bitters post on here is often unadulterated, infantile crap. While your last point is true that lots post crap is on here, i wouldn't call anyone a euro snob. Because believe me they wouldn't give a shit to go on this forum. Most just have apathy for the local game, they don't care one way or another.
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