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Moreton Bay Regional Council will fast-track an $18 million upgrade to South Pine Sports Complex



A southeast Queensland council will fast-track the construction of a new $18 million women’s football facility in hopes it will be used Women’s World Cup...”


https://www.couriermail.com.au/questnews/moreton/moreton-bay-regional-council-will-fasttrack-an-18-million-upgrade-to-south-pine-sports-complex/news-story/617351a4994423608e1eff2b0698a725




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Apologies if the story answers the question (paywall...) but what's the difference between a "women's football facility" and a "regular" one ?


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RoyalDave - 7 Jul 2020 8:24 PM
Apologies if the story answers the question (paywall...) but what's the difference between a "women's football facility" and a "regular" one ?


$18 million in investment it seems. 

Try this article 

https://www.moretonbaytough.com.au/news/brisbane-roar-score-new-home-in-moreton-bay-region

note the logo, that logo brought success. I guess the venue will always have WC linked to it.
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Via google translate:

WOMEN'S WORLD CUP 2019: THE RESULTS OF THE IMPACT STUDY
Monday, July 6, 2020 - 3:00 p.m. - Philippe Mayen

FIFA, the FFF and the Local Organizing Committee of the FIFA Women's World Cup France 2019 publish this Monday the results of the economic and environmental impact study of the competition organized in France from June 7 to 7 July 2019.

Hailed for its popular success in terms of attendance and television audiences, the 8 th edition of the largest women's tournament ( 24 équiipes ) attracted 1.2 million French and foreign viewers (for 52 games ) in nine stages host of the competition. These results, the most important in the history of the Women's World Cups, are today confirmed in terms of economic spinoffs at regional and national level in France.

The economic impact study of the sporting event, carried out and consolidated over the past few months, thus reveals € 284 million in benefits for the Gross Domestic Product (GDP), including €108 million in net capital gains for France. For 1 euro spent, the nine cities and territories hosting the competition benefited from a return on investment of 2 to 20 euros of contribution to the GDP. These significant economic spinoffs have benefited many activities, including the hotel, restaurant (18.2 M €), transport (7.3 M €), sports associations and personal services (€9.5 million), education, social and health (€ 12.5 million), commerce (€ 9.1 million) or construction (€ 4.9 million).

https://www.fff.fr/actualites/191784-mondial-feminin-2019-les-resultats-de-l-etude-d-impact?themePath=la-fff/


It's a pity that the ACT and most likely Tasmania will miss out on that.
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My phone is playing up so can’t paste all the time but- 

there is a Newcastle article today about a politician from there who is also connected to a local club. They had a $500k request denied. He had a good go at it and even stated FIFA is not going to be impressed as the club will be a training venue....
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scott20won - 27 Jul 2020 11:07 PM
My phone is playing up so can’t paste all the time but- 

there is a Newcastle article today about a politician from there who is also connected to a local club. They had a $500k request denied. He had a good go at it and even stated FIFA is not going to be impressed as the club will be a training venue....

Yep, it's Newcastle Olympic - we are a safe as houses Labor seat here so always very little chance of the LNP handing out anything. 

Few articles about it here:

Legal case launched over sports grant bid (23 July)
Newcastle club slams corrupt sports fund (23 July)
Newcastle Olympic Football Club director Kosta Patsan is our hero (27 July)

Paste below of the the main bits from the last article:

Kosta gave the politicians and bureaucrats in Canberra a big serve for rejecting his soccer club's application for a $500,000 grant.

The club applied for the grant to help fund a new grandstand and dressing sheds at Darling Street Oval in Hamilton South.

The club met the criteria and put its application in on time. Other clubs that didn't meet the criteria and put their applications in late did get funded in a shocking and widely publicised case of pork barrelling.

Kosta didn't pull any punches. He told the inquiry straight what he thought of the Morrison government's handling of the matter and the dodgy way it divvied up $100 million in sports infrastructure funding.

"Our grandstand - essentially it's not a grandstand - it's five levels of metal tiered seating with a roof that was built by volunteers over 30 years ago," he said.

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He said the club's ambition was "simply to have more people playing football".

"We measure ourselves on having as many people playing football in Olympic colours as possible.

"We love seeing kids play football."

He added that the club now had popular women's teams. New dressing rooms were badly needed, so males and females could have their own areas to get changed.

His club had been selected as a training venue for the Women's World Cup in 2023.

"Goodness knows what FIFA will do when they come and see the state of this grandstand," he said.


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Politics and sport. It’s not like both parties don’t make decisions based on their own beneficial factors though, but it would be good to see things go in our favour for once.



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“The WACA Ground, one of Australian cricket’s most historic venues, is set to be transformed into a “boutique community and sporting destination” after being granted a funding package from the Western Australian government, with the move set to relegate it as a host of international games.

The Western Australian Cricket Association (WACA) said its long-held vision to transform the stadium into a sustainable community and sporting hub with cricket at its heart will now become a reality through the A$30m (€18.1m/$21.3m) state investment....

In addition to the state investment, the federal government has committed A$30m towards the project, Cricket Australia will provide A$4m and the WACA will raise another A$10m through its Cricket Foundation....”

https://www.sportbusiness.com/news/waca-ground-to-be-reimagined-following-state-financing/

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Ballymore also had a plan for the 23 WC as a training venue too.
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“Plans to create a multi-million-dollar soccer hub, with a 1000-seat grandstand, outdoor pitches and two-storey clubhouse, at Gepps Cross are out for public consultation.
 The development, to be known as the State Centre of Football and forming part of the State Sports Park on Briens Rd, will include a show pitch with a 1000-seat grandstand, two-storey clubhouse, gymnasium, changerooms and 10 outdoor five-a-side pitches.....

Artists impression of the State Centre of Football earmarked for Gepps Cross.
An indoor futsal centre with three courts is planned for a later stage of the development.A report by Greenway Architects said the development would cost $19 million, and that Football SA was seeking further funding to complete the project.“The centre will also consolidate football’s identity in South Australia, provide revenue streams to support the sport’s financial sustainability and include a headquarters for FSA and other community football associations,” the report said.The hub will be capable of hosting local games through to FFA Cup matches and national and international training and events.
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“The project will establish the State Centre of Football as a vital and sustainable grass roots to elite football facility, integrated into the State Sports Park and connected with wider local and regional sports networks and activity,” the report said.“The project will provide facilities that cater for all levels of the sport from social participation to elite level competition as well as a corporate headquarters for FSA.”It said the entrance plaza would be one of the development’s key features, able to host events such as farmers’ markets and community gatherings.

Sport Minister Corey Wingard said the vision for the State Sports Park was for an “integrated, multi-use community hub that is greener, more accessible and more welcoming”.

“We want to create a first-class facility for our elite athletes and also a place where members of the community can to be more active,” Mr Wingard said.

Port Adelaide Enfield Mayor Claire Boan said: “We are excited about working alongside the State Government to create a master plan that will not only improve elite sporting facilities within SA, but also create an amazing new open space for our community to enjoy.”

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/messenger/north-northeast/plans-for-worldclass-soccer-hub-at-gepps-cross-out-for-public-notification/news-story/2106f779c6b0d10fd461f8beabf0c1c8
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I can't see how. If FIFA were charging a fee to host cities you might have a point, but from all my reading the amounts discussed are the required spend on facilities. FIFA has every right to set a certain standard for their competitions, in fact they would be negligent if they didn't. If prospective hosts aren't interested in investing in their own infrastructure to get themselves up to standard then they have nobody else but themselves to blame when they miss out.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-confirms-brisbane-will-host-this-years-grand-final/news-story/31f58e7651bdec74677ff171892c73ef

Here's an example Pala of a state that, across all categories, shits all over the Qld bid but didn't pony up enough money. 

Not that I give a shit about the AFL but it's the broader point of matches and/or events being bought and 'proper', if you like, fans missing out.

It stinks. 


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Munrubenmuz - 2 Sep 2020 4:15 PM
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https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-confirms-brisbane-will-host-this-years-grand-final/news-story/31f58e7651bdec74677ff171892c73ef

Here's an example Pala of a state that, across all categories, shits all over the Qld bid but didn't pony up enough money. 

Not that I give a shit about the AFL but it's the broader point of matches and/or events being bought and 'proper', if you like, fans missing out.

It stinks. 

I'm not quite understanding the point you're trying to make.

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bettega - 2 Sep 2020 4:40 PM
Munrubenmuz - 2 Sep 2020 4:15 PM

I'm not quite understanding the point you're trying to make.

That events/matches shouldn't be bought.  IE the WC 2023 matches should not necessarily go to whoever stumps up the most cash.


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Munrubenmuz - 2 Sep 2020 4:15 PM
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https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-confirms-brisbane-will-host-this-years-grand-final/news-story/31f58e7651bdec74677ff171892c73ef

Here's an example Pala of a state that, across all categories, shits all over the Qld bid but didn't pony up enough money. 

Not that I give a shit about the AFL but it's the broader point of matches and/or events being bought and 'proper', if you like, fans missing out.

It stinks. 

At least they put forward a stadium in the right shape for the sport in question lol

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Munrubenmuz - 2 Sep 2020 5:17 PM
bettega - 2 Sep 2020 4:40 PM

That events/matches shouldn't be bought.  IE the WC 2023 matches should not necessarily go to whoever stumps up the most cash.

Agreed. The key criteria should the most appropriate venues suitable for the competition.

If they're not up to scratch it's venue owner's responsibility to meet the standards, if they want to host.
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I really don’t see us getting much in the way of investment for the event unfortunately. With less than 3 years to go, I think there will be smaller investments overall in terms of facilities upgrades, but those that were dreaming of stadium builds likely won’t be happy with the results. 

News this week of the Home of the Matildas in Melbourne was good, but once again reading into it, the reality is it’s just money to design it. Still a long way to go for anything more significant in terms of funding.

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Vic gov anounced today they will fund their major sport, including Melbourne Storm and Western Utd..should now get their stadium hopefully.
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There is a video to watch on link but it is paywalled on to read

Dramatic video reveals full plans for second Riverbank sport and entertainment stadium, with elevating soccer pitch



A multipurpose sports and entertainment arena planned for the Riverbank would have a field that turns into a roof and create almost 6000 jobs, a newly-revealed pitch video reveals. “

https://www.google.se/amp/s/amp.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/news/south-australia/dramatic-video-reveals-full-plans-for-second-riverbank-sport-and-entertainment-stadium-with-elevating-soccer-pitch/news-story/ee7cad3c82bc77354f5860538bacb558








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I think smaller investments to upgrade clubs facilities and to get better seating/grandstands around the country is what the FFA should be looming for over the next 3years under the banner of women’s football.
This will only help NSD clubs to gain minimum requires and benefit football in the long run.
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That riverbank stadium does look impressive. If they can get that up then you’d think Canberra would have to follow suit.
with money being supplied by the Vic government for western United they should look to start there stadium next year.
Team 11 if granted a lisense could also build a stadium.
townsville new stadium is under used and needs an ALeague club.
new sydney stadiums planned also.
plenty of new stadiums to look forward to over the next 10 years I must say 
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At least from Footballs point of view, this seems like exceptionally half arsed effort for us to support.

Marginally closer to the city, an extra 6000 seats and a worse view considering they will make the pitch include a full Rugby Union in-goal area is not exactly anything to get too excited about and a 22k stadium is not going to make Adelaide anymore attractive to the FFA for Socceroos game. 

We would also inevitably lose a beloved ground like Hindmarsh Stadium to property developers which would be devastating imo.  If they held onto Hindmarsh and made the new ground 28-35k for Football/Rugby, that would at least cover most football events from NSD, FFA Cup, A-League and one off events like WCQ's without the need to go anywhere near Adelaide Oval.

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Is it possible if this stadium gets built in the next 5years that a new Adelaide club could move in?
like an Adelaide City or another club?
that would create a great derby and have home and away grounds with Coopers and still give the government approval for a football club to play out of it.
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melbourne_terrace - 15 Sep 2020 5:51 AM
At least from Footballs point of view, this seems like exceptionally half arsed effort for us to support.

Marginally closer to the city, an extra 6000 seats and a worse view considering they will make the pitch include a full Rugby Union in-goal area is not exactly anything to get too excited about and a 22k stadium is not going to make Adelaide anymore attractive to the FFA for Socceroos game. 

We would also inevitably lose a beloved ground like Hindmarsh Stadium to property developers which would be devastating imo.  If they held onto Hindmarsh and made the new ground 28-35k for Football/Rugby, that would at least cover most football events from NSD, FFA Cup, A-League and one off events like WCQ's without the need to go anywhere near Adelaide Oval.

If it does materialise, AU fans should fight like the devil to stop the pitch being excessively elongated to suit rugby (which will probably never be played there anyway). Cardiff's Millennium Stadium is only 120m fence to fence, and hosts Wales international rugby matches. Anything longer is not needed, and will be detrimental to the main tenants.

But I think 22k is probably around the right size. You don't want it to be too big or it'll kill the atmosphere, like Suncorp, the SFS, etc. 
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Looks like the video isn't paywalled here: https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/proposed-sports-and-entertainment-arena-for-riverbank/video/7e6ee58c9697e95a289c04176c114b8a
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Tbone - 15 Sep 2020 6:49 AM
Is it possible if this stadium gets built in the next 5years that a new Adelaide club could move in?

Ideally in the next three years so it can be part of the Women's World Cup instead of Hindmarsh, 22k is perfect for that and for Adelaide United's needs in the medium to long term.

The location is a dream, would be great for away fans.

I really want to learn more about how this proposed lifting field works. Multi-purpose venues are the future for taxpayer-funded facilities.
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melbourne_terrace - 15 Sep 2020 5:51 AM
We would also inevitably lose a beloved ground like Hindmarsh Stadium to property developers which would be devastating imo.  If they held onto Hindmarsh and made the new ground 28-35k for Football/Rugby, that would at least cover most football events from NSD, FFA Cup, A-League and one off events like WCQ's without the need to go anywhere near Adelaide Oval.

Have you had a look at Hindmarsh on google maps? The triangle site and surrounding heritage buildings make any upgrades or renovations look really difficult, it's something I've been scratching my head over for a while.
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In my ongoing self-deluded fantasy of someday seeing a home (men's) World Cup in my lifetime, I really hope that they learn from the mistakes made at AAMI Park and make it possible to temporarily get the roof on the south flank out of the way easily and cheaply and put in foundations around/on top of that "integrated DFO and cinema complex" for 18k temporary seats to get it up to the 40k minimum. It looks like there's enough space, based on those renders.
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paladisious - 15 Sep 2020 9:25 AM


At first I thought that pic was a render of a friendly with Juventus, but they actually thought to depict a derby between Adelaide United and Adelaide City!
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melbourne_terrace - 15 Sep 2020 5:51 AM

If it does materialise, AU fans should fight like the devil to stop the pitch being excessively elongated to suit rugby (which will probably never be played there anyway). Cardiff's Millennium Stadium is only 120m fence to fence, and hosts Wales international rugby matches. Anything longer is not needed, and will be detrimental to the main tenants.

But I think 22k is probably around the right size. You don't want it to be too big or it'll kill the atmosphere, like Suncorp, the SFS, etc. 

I totally get that, 22k is more than ideal for normal club matches. I just don't trust Australian sporting administrators to not shit the bed anytime the prospect of a sellout comes up and try to move any big game to the nearby AFL oval. Adelaide is hardly going to build multiple stadiums and at least if it's around 28-30k, there is less chance of big games like finals or WCQ'S being moved to that shit whole.



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