New stadia/upgrades to be built if we win 2023 World Cup


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paladisious - 15 Sep 2020 9:17 AM
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Have you had a look at Hindmarsh on google maps? The triangle site and surrounding heritage buildings make any upgrades or renovations look really difficult, it's something I've been scratching my head over for a while.

Yeah i've seen it. The site is a fucking nightmare for expansion and i don't know what the solution is apart from building up the South East corner. I just don't want to lose the place. It's not Adelaide Away without being close enough to breath down the players necks

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melbourne_terrace - 15 Sep 2020 9:57 AM
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Yeah i've seen it. The site is a fucking nightmare for expansion and i don't know what the solution is apart from building up the South East corner. I just don't want to lose the place. It's not Adelaide Away without being close enough to breath down the players necks

I definitely love Hindmarsh away, don't get me wrong. I don't think I've missed a Victory game there in years. Never been to one at Adelaide Oval though.

Hopefully this new hypothetical venue would replicate it as much as possible. I would speculate that the seating in football mode would have a reasonably high rake as it'd have to also work for the other modes with a lower point of focus.
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23mil for 8,500 stadium in Rockhampton, secured by Pauline Hanson apparently :laugh::laugh::laugh:



https://www.austadiums.com/news/news.php?id=817
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The location of the new Adelaide stadium looks great. I hope it goes ahead and it's not kneecapped for WC expansion like the Melbourne football stadium is.

Interesting that the Rocky stadium is on a new site by the river and not at Browne Park. Both great choices by each government, location makes such a difference in capturing casuals.
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Glory Recruit - 15 Sep 2020 11:49 AM
23mil for 8,500 stadium in Rockhampton, secured by Pauline Hanson apparently :laugh::laugh::laugh:



https://www.austadiums.com/news/news.php?id=817

Effniks will turn it to a sokkah pitch!
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Glory Recruit - 15 Sep 2020 11:49 AM
23mil for 8,500 stadium in Rockhampton, secured by Pauline Hanson apparently :laugh::laugh::laugh:



https://www.austadiums.com/news/news.php?id=817

Looks identical to Dolphin Oval in Redcliffe. Perfect stadium for A-League or second division. Honestly every team should have a stadium like this.
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paladisious - 15 Sep 2020 9:46 AM
paladisious - 15 Sep 2020 9:25 AM

At first I thought that pic was a render of a friendly with Juventus, but they actually thought to depict a derby between Adelaide United and Adelaide City!

And AC looking more dangerous away in the derby with a the corner
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SEroos - 15 Sep 2020 1:04 PM
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Looks identical to Dolphin Oval in Redcliffe. Perfect stadium for A-League or second division. Honestly every team should have a stadium like this.

At 23mil not too bad a price either. I always thought stadiums in AUS costed a shit load more. Isn’t WU stadium 180mil at 15k? They’d probably be better served by something like this.
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Glory Recruit - 15 Sep 2020 3:14 PM
SEroos - 15 Sep 2020 1:04 PM

At 23mil not too bad a price either. I always thought stadiums in AUS costed a shit load more. Isn’t WU stadium 180mil at 15k? They’d probably be better served by something like this.

Still can’t see that stadium costing $23 million in Australia. Hardly get the base infrastructure of a stadium built for that, let alone everything else. 

I agree that WU are likely best suited to a far more basic stadium in their case, but one that has cover overall all seats is a necessity. 

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That is the perfect style stadium and size for all NSD clubs and NPL clubs to work towards and get funding for over the next 2years!
This is the type of development all clubs should strive for... they could hold there own functions.
i think sydney Olympic had something drawn up similar.
Football needs to go local and be accessible... 
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Me living in Rockhampton on my way to a match in January at that open stadium


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paladisious - 15 Sep 2020 9:14 AM
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I really want to learn more about how this proposed lifting field works. Multi-purpose venues are the future for taxpayer-funded facilities.

Not a fan of the concept to be honest, and it probably wouldn't be that much cheaper than just building a separate entertainment centre. Football in Adelaide needs a proper home, not a venue where Adelaide Utd will probably get bumped from a finals match because there's a fucking Taylor Swift concert on.
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df1982 - 15 Sep 2020 6:33 PM
paladisious - 15 Sep 2020 9:14 AM

Not a fan of the concept to be honest, and it probably wouldn't be that much cheaper than just building a separate entertainment centre. Football in Adelaide needs a proper home, not a venue where Adelaide Utd will probably get bumped from a finals match because there's a fucking Taylor Swift concert on.

Hopefully United will have some heft as the anchor tenant, but you're not wrong. The reality is though that without the political power of the AFL and if clubs don't own their own stadia there'll have to be compromises with governments.

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Glory Recruit - 15 Sep 2020 11:49 AM
23mil for 8,500 stadium in Rockhampton, secured by Pauline Hanson apparently :laugh::laugh::laugh:



https://www.austadiums.com/news/news.php?id=817

Looks like a good place to put a useless stadium in my home town. Prone to flooding in that area and nobody goes to watch any sports here anyway.
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josephbubblejet - 16 Sep 2020 8:57 PM
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Looks like a good place to put a useless stadium in my home town. Prone to flooding in that area and nobody goes to watch any sports here anyway.

But .... 

it debunks the idea that you need $300m+ to build a stadium. 
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Waz - 16 Sep 2020 9:06 PM
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But .... 

it debunks the idea that you need $300m+ to build a stadium. 

Not really. Anything half decent needs a roof Covering all stands, requiring far greater investment. Going el cheapo May appear to be a good solution, but doesn’t mean it will be a great outcome.

WU need to find a better balance than its proposed stadium though, as the cost does appear to be profit over in that case. 
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df1982 - 15 Sep 2020 6:33 PM
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Not a fan of the concept to be honest, and it probably wouldn't be that much cheaper than just building a separate entertainment centre. Football in Adelaide needs a proper home, not a venue where Adelaide Utd will probably get bumped from a finals match because there's a fucking Taylor Swift concert on.

I don’t mind it.

They could build an indoor arena with retractable roof and AstroTurf as an alternative. Just put down special mats when football isn’t on.

Its very good placing to get corporate sponsors. Sure it would have full vip shit

Also, don’t think there is enough space like Liverpool council want (Like the Arizona one) to have a grass pitch that rails in and out of the stadium.

Probably got over the line with real grass so they can play AFLX there


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Multi-purpose Adelaide CBD stadium concept revealed
Austadiums Austadiums
Wednesday 16th September 2020



Adelaide Venue Management has pitched a new 22,000-capacity stadium on the CBD’s Riverbank that includes a football pitch that can elevate to create an indoor arena.
pitch videopitch video created by the authority that runs the Adelaide Entertainment Centre, Convention Centre and Coopers Stadium, calls for a second major stadium in Adelaide to solve issues with existing facilities that are nearing the end of their useful lives.
The proposed arena, dubbed Riverbank Arena, is located on the edge of Adelaide’s CBD, tucked in on the riverfront, behind the new Royal Adelaide Hospital and train station, southwest of Adelaide Oval and adjacent the Adelaide Convention Centre.
The stadium features a capacity of 22,000 for rectangular sports such as football, rugby league and union. The football pitch can then rise up to cover the arena and reveal a lower bowl, able to host sports such as basketball and netball with a capacity of 15,000. Arena-style concerts will be able to attract up to 30,000 fans.
The video says the Adelaide Entertainment CentreAdelaide Entertainment Centre, Coopers StadiumCoopers Stadium and Priceline StadiumPriceline Stadium are all nearing the end of their useful lives, while the Entertainment Centre’s 10,000 capacity and netball centre’s 3,200 capacity is no longer sufficient.
It says the former 36ers home venue Adelaide ArenaAdelaide Arena has reached the end of its life and is no longer fit for professional basketball (the NBL team now plays at the Entertainment Centre) and while the Convention Centre is considered world-class, it lacks exhibition space.
The video also says the new roof recently installed at Memorial DriveMemorial Drive provides a short to mid-term fix, but a larger venue will deliver superior world-class tennis events.
It’s believed the pitch video was created last year and presented to the Government, and while a second major stadium for the city was put on the agenda earlier this year, Covid-19 put the plans on ice.
However, leading industry groups are now calling for the plans to be urgently reconsidered as the Reserve Bank called on states to deliver more stimulus to save and create jobs.
An accompanying business case forecasts 3200 direct and 5800 indirect jobs from such a project.







"In order to unlock the full potential of the South Australian growth agenda we must be competitive, strategic and future-thinking,” the pitch video states."
"Currently, our exiting venue infrastructure is unable to maintain current socio-economic benefits or create new growth opportunities for South Australia."
"SA is missing out and is no longer competitive."
It’s not the first time a new stadium has been proposed for the Riverbank precinct in Adelaide, with a business case for a new indoor stadium put forward in late 2018business case for a new indoor stadium put forward in late 2018, while a major redevelopment for Memorial Drivemajor redevelopment for Memorial Drive was also proposed earlier that same year.

https://www.austadiums.com/news/news.php?id=818

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Anyone seen the image of Dolphin Stadiums new stand behind the goals. Looks really good!
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aussie pride - 23 Sep 2020 9:11 PM
Anyone seen the image of Dolphin Stadiums new stand behind the goals. Looks really good!

Looks like not too much coverage from rain, unless near the top.
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Soccer boss still working on A-League team for Tasmania and new soccer stadium for Hobart



TASMANIAN soccer boss Bob Gordon says the state’s push for an A-League team will ramp up next week when he meet with its financial backers and he is closing in on a greenfield site for a national-standard soccer stadium in Hobart.”

https://www.themercury.com.au/sport/soccer-boss-still-working-on-aleague-team-for-tasmania-and-new-soccer-stadium-for-hobart/news-story/f2df5bde421560280a97d707d4878cbf
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scott20won - 23 Sep 2020 9:33 PM

Soccer boss still working on A-League team for Tasmania and new soccer stadium for Hobart



TASMANIAN soccer boss Bob Gordon says the state’s push for an A-League team will ramp up next week when he meet with its financial backers and he is closing in on a greenfield site for a national-standard soccer stadium in Hobart.”

https://www.themercury.com.au/sport/soccer-boss-still-working-on-aleague-team-for-tasmania-and-new-soccer-stadium-for-hobart/news-story/f2df5bde421560280a97d707d4878cbf

I would much rather Hobart build their own football specific stadium with no more than 10k capacity, and play all home games there. 

I'm not into clubs playing out of more than one home stadium, especially in another city. 
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Soccer boss still working on A-League team for Tasmania and new soccer stadium for Hobart
James Bresnehan, Mercury
September 23, 2020 4:55pm


TASMANIAN soccer boss Bob Gordon says the state’s push for an A-League team will ramp up next week when he meet with its financial backers and he is closing in on a greenfield site for a national-standard soccer stadium in Hobart.

President of Football Tasmania, Gordon said the coronavirus had shifted the landscape on Australian soccer but the pursuit of a Tasmanian team in the A-League was still on course.

It comes as the state secures a National Basketball League team to be based at a extensively refurbished Derwent Entertainment Centre and will start competing next year.

“I will be talking to the financial backers of the Tasmanian A-League team again next week, and they are still interested,” Gordon said.

“We are working proactively and cooperatively with the State Government about what needs to be done to make sure we’ve got the facilities where we could play A-League.”

Turning Launceston’s AFL venue UTas Stadium into a soccer-ready pitch was a priority.

“The first step is making sure York Park gets upgraded to rectangular stadium format like Marvel Stadium, where the seats come out into the ground so it’s rectangular,” Gordon said.

“That would allow us to play Matildas games in the lead up to the World Cup, as well as A-League games and Y-League games.

“It would be a lasting legacy for every sport that needs a rectangular stadium and it would also increase the seating for other sports as well.

“We will not get the World Cup unless we have a rectangular format stadium.

“We are still working on an option for a rectangular stadium for Hobart.”

A-League games would be played at both ends of the state.

“The proponents are keen on playing games in Hobart and Launceston, just from sheer economics, you get good crowds at both,” Gordon said.

“But we do need a rectangular stadium in Hobart and it wouldn’t just be for the A-League.

“It could be a concert venue for 12,000 or 13,000 people, and we’ve had an international rugby game down here and we occasionally get an NRL game, and it would be used for events like that.

“But you don’t get those unless you’ve got the facilities.”

Gordon said the A-League group identified seven potential sites for a Hobart soccer venue, and the shortlist had been reduced to three.

“It would be quite a modest investment compared with the billion dollars that’s been spent on York Park and Blundstone Arena,” he said.

“We’ve got three locations and we are still working through that process.”


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soccerfoo - 23 Sep 2020 9:27 PM
aussie pride - 23 Sep 2020 9:11 PM

Looks like not too much coverage from rain, unless near the top.

It’s a very basic set up really. Rain or sun, that would be a nightmare to be sitting out in during a summer day in particular. 

I read that the Dolphins are also pushing hard for a spot in the NRL. They sound a bit like Western United though in that they want to play some games at Dolphin Stadium, some at Suncorp and a few at Sunshine Coast. When they have their own stadium, further expansion of the venue would be better than trying to be something to everyone by living a nomadic life.

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soccerfoo - 23 Sep 2020 9:27 PM
aussie pride - 23 Sep 2020 9:11 PM

Looks like not too much coverage from rain, unless near the top.

There’s no coverage from rain (or more importantly the sun) whether you’re at the top or bottom - there is no roof on the new stand. 

But Dolphin shows what can be done on a modest budget and not $300m+ 

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paladisious - 23 Sep 2020 10:47 PM
Soccer boss still working on A-League team for Tasmania and new soccer stadium for Hobart
James Bresnehan, Mercury
September 23, 2020 4:55pm


TASMANIAN soccer boss Bob Gordon says the state’s push for an A-League team will ramp up next week when he meet with its financial backers and he is closing in on a greenfield site for a national-standard soccer stadium in Hobart.

President of Football Tasmania, Gordon said the coronavirus had shifted the landscape on Australian soccer but the pursuit of a Tasmanian team in the A-League was still on course.

It comes as the state secures a National Basketball League team to be based at a extensively refurbished Derwent Entertainment Centre and will start competing next year.

“I will be talking to the financial backers of the Tasmanian A-League team again next week, and they are still interested,” Gordon said.

“We are working proactively and cooperatively with the State Government about what needs to be done to make sure we’ve got the facilities where we could play A-League.”

Turning Launceston’s AFL venue UTas Stadium into a soccer-ready pitch was a priority.

“The first step is making sure York Park gets upgraded to rectangular stadium format like Marvel Stadium, where the seats come out into the ground so it’s rectangular,” Gordon said.

“That would allow us to play Matildas games in the lead up to the World Cup, as well as A-League games and Y-League games.

“It would be a lasting legacy for every sport that needs a rectangular stadium and it would also increase the seating for other sports as well.

“We will not get the World Cup unless we have a rectangular format stadium.

“We are still working on an option for a rectangular stadium for Hobart.”

A-League games would be played at both ends of the state.

“The proponents are keen on playing games in Hobart and Launceston, just from sheer economics, you get good crowds at both,” Gordon said.

“But we do need a rectangular stadium in Hobart and it wouldn’t just be for the A-League.

“It could be a concert venue for 12,000 or 13,000 people, and we’ve had an international rugby game down here and we occasionally get an NRL game, and it would be used for events like that.

“But you don’t get those unless you’ve got the facilities.”

Gordon said the A-League group identified seven potential sites for a Hobart soccer venue, and the shortlist had been reduced to three.

“It would be quite a modest investment compared with the billion dollars that’s been spent on York Park and Blundstone Arena,” he said.

“We’ve got three locations and we are still working through that process.”


Good luck to them. I would like to see Tasmania get a team, but the economics of such a move is a bit hard to compute.

They already have a strong AFL presence, Cricket and soon NBL with a fairly modest population base, which is also fairly evenly split across the North and South making things even trickier.

Expecting them to build a 10k football specific venue is a bit hard to see happen, but if they can get it built I’d be pleasantly surprised. 



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paladisious - 23 Sep 2020 10:47 PM
Soccer boss still working on A-League team for Tasmania and new soccer stadium for Hobart
James Bresnehan, Mercury
September 23, 2020 4:55pm


TASMANIAN soccer boss Bob Gordon says the state’s push for an A-League team will ramp up next week when he meet with its financial backers and he is closing in on a greenfield site for a national-standard soccer stadium in Hobart.

President of Football Tasmania, Gordon said the coronavirus had shifted the landscape on Australian soccer but the pursuit of a Tasmanian team in the A-League was still on course.

It comes as the state secures a National Basketball League team to be based at a extensively refurbished Derwent Entertainment Centre and will start competing next year.

“I will be talking to the financial backers of the Tasmanian A-League team again next week, and they are still interested,” Gordon said.

“We are working proactively and cooperatively with the State Government about what needs to be done to make sure we’ve got the facilities where we could play A-League.”

Turning Launceston’s AFL venue UTas Stadium into a soccer-ready pitch was a priority.

“The first step is making sure York Park gets upgraded to rectangular stadium format like Marvel Stadium, where the seats come out into the ground so it’s rectangular,” Gordon said.

“That would allow us to play Matildas games in the lead up to the World Cup, as well as A-League games and Y-League games.

“It would be a lasting legacy for every sport that needs a rectangular stadium and it would also increase the seating for other sports as well.

“We will not get the World Cup unless we have a rectangular format stadium.

“We are still working on an option for a rectangular stadium for Hobart.”

A-League games would be played at both ends of the state.

“The proponents are keen on playing games in Hobart and Launceston, just from sheer economics, you get good crowds at both,” Gordon said.

“But we do need a rectangular stadium in Hobart and it wouldn’t just be for the A-League.

“It could be a concert venue for 12,000 or 13,000 people, and we’ve had an international rugby game down here and we occasionally get an NRL game, and it would be used for events like that.

“But you don’t get those unless you’ve got the facilities.”

Gordon said the A-League group identified seven potential sites for a Hobart soccer venue, and the shortlist had been reduced to three.

“It would be quite a modest investment compared with the billion dollars that’s been spent on York Park and Blundstone Arena,” he said.

“We’ve got three locations and we are still working through that process.”


This isn't good enough for A-League games, let alone a World Cup. Docklands is still shit with the retractable seating and this will be even worse, York Park is nothing other than a dump and Launceston is a glorified village.

Tasmania can either build a stadium in Hobart or get in the bin. No more ovals.

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This isn't good enough for A-League games, let alone a World Cup. Docklands is still shit with the retractable seating and this will be even worse, York Park is nothing other than a dump and Launceston is a glorified village.

Tasmania can either build a stadium in Hobart or get in the bin. No more ovals.

Not to mention, surely it would be cheaper to build a modest rectangular venue with the same amount of seats that would be moving in Launceston?
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Had the bid or government released any drawings or concept designs of the proposed stadium and location in Hobart??
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Tbone - 24 Sep 2020 8:39 AM
Had the bid or government released any drawings or concept designs of the proposed stadium and location in Hobart??

If they did they will be very grand to get us all excited and instead we would end up with a multi purpose facility with a stand on one side only. 

I don’t hold out much hope for a football specific venue being built there.

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