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theFOOTBALLlover - 21 Oct 2021 3:19 PM
jaymz - 21 Oct 2021 2:22 PM

People talk about coaches like every decision has to be the right one. Whether you agree with the tactical set up or not, Australia didn't and doesn't have a better coach than Ange and we should have trusted him. Graham is not a better coach than him. 

Never said he was a bad coach, or that Graham is better. I said his inflexibility is his greatest weakness and all the top coaches in the world are able to tweak their tactics based on their squad and team. It is the difference between him being a Sam Allardyce and Thomas Tuchel. Both are good managers, but one is a lot better than the other.

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theFOOTBALLlover - 21 Oct 2021 3:19 PM
jaymz - 21 Oct 2021 2:22 PM

People talk about coaches like every decision has to be the right one. Whether you agree with the tactical set up or not, Australia didn't and doesn't have a better coach than Ange and we should have trusted him. Graham is not a better coach than him. 

Ange quit NT. He wasn’t fired or not trusted
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jaymz - 21 Oct 2021 2:22 PM
Feed_The_Brox - 21 Oct 2021 1:12 PM

Yep, and then stuck to it no matter what even when it was not working. We were more successful with the 4-3-3 (won the asian cup with it) but he refused to revert back to it when we needed to. It would have given him at least 2 tactical set ups

People talk about coaches like every decision has to be the right one. Whether you agree with the tactical set up or not, Australia didn't and doesn't have a better coach than Ange and we should have trusted him. Graham is not a better coach than him. 
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Feed_The_Brox - 21 Oct 2021 1:12 PM
jaymz - 21 Oct 2021 11:53 AM

ummm... you do know Ange changed the system in the middle of the WCQ campaign, right?

Yep, and then stuck to it no matter what even when it was not working. We were more successful with the 4-3-3 (won the asian cup with it) but he refused to revert back to it when we needed to. It would have given him at least 2 tactical set ups

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jaymz - 21 Oct 2021 11:53 AM
ErogenousZone - 20 Oct 2021 5:07 PM

Not sure i agree with that. His biggest weakness is his refusal to be tactically flexible and only sticking to one way of playing. Most top European coaches adjust the way they play to the team they are playing, unless you are coaching City, Madrid, Bayern, Barca or Liverpool who are expected to dominate and win every game they play domestic or abroad. He even doubled down on this philosophy with his Maccas quote.

This weakness was shown when he coached the Socceroos and even when they were struggling against teams like Thailand, Ange refused to change the system to the more successful 4-3-3 he won the Asian Cup with. 



ummm... you do know Ange changed the system in the middle of the WCQ campaign, right?
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ErogenousZone - 20 Oct 2021 5:07 PM
Ange is way too sensitive to be a top flight coach. In European football that is a major hinderance. 



Not sure i agree with that. His biggest weakness is his refusal to be tactically flexible and only sticking to one way of playing. Most top European coaches adjust the way they play to the team they are playing, unless you are coaching City, Madrid, Bayern, Barca or Liverpool who are expected to dominate and win every game they play domestic or abroad. He even doubled down on this philosophy with his Maccas quote.

This weakness was shown when he coached the Socceroos and even when they were struggling against teams like Thailand, Ange refused to change the system to the more successful 4-3-3 he won the Asian Cup with. 




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BrisbaneBhoy - 21 Oct 2021 11:00 AM
Enzo Bearzot - 20 Oct 2021 11:08 PM

The team is definitely not the kindest to it's supporter's when it comes to our mental health and/or nervous system. I'm sure I have Bipolar due to following the club all these years 😟
I know its one less leaf on the clover BB but thought this might cheer you up?  The gaffer had a great mentor, have some faith brother :)

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Enzo Bearzot - 20 Oct 2021 11:08 PM
BrisbaneBhoy - 20 Oct 2021 5:49 PM

I'm not Postecoglou's biggest fan but Jesus H Christ does this Celtic squad have more than its fair share of coach-killers. Its the players jobs to put the chances away, the managers job to set them up to create the chances.  Right now, its the players that ere fucking him over, rather than the other way around.

The team is definitely not the kindest to it's supporter's when it comes to our mental health and/or nervous system. I'm sure I have Bipolar due to following the club all these years 😟

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Enzo Bearzot - 20 Oct 2021 11:08 PM
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I'm not Postecoglou's biggest fan but Jesus H Christ does this Celtic squad have more than its fair share of coach-killers. Its the players jobs to put the chances away, the managers job to set them up to create the chances.  Right now, its the players that ere fucking him over, rather than the other way around.

There was one game they lost recently where they hit the post once and the cross bar 3 times. And missed 2 tap ins. You'd be pulling your hair out.


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Enzo Bearzot - 20 Oct 2021 11:08 PM
BrisbaneBhoy - 20 Oct 2021 5:49 PM


I'm not Postecoglou's biggest fan but Jesus H Christ does this Celtic squad have more than its fair share of coach-killers. Its the players jobs to put the chances away, the managers job to set them up to create the chances.  Right now, its the players that ere fucking him over, rather than the other way around.

Certain players sure.

Others like Kyogo have arguably kept him in the job far.

(VAR) IS NAVY BLUE

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BrisbaneBhoy - 20 Oct 2021 5:49 PM
CanberraHarry - 20 Oct 2021 1:14 PM

Could have/should have, but didn't. That said, I'm just happy with the win, and a second clean sheet in a row. That can be a foundation that can be built on. Especially with the injured players list reducing in size with each passing week (probably just cursed the team with that comment😬).

Hopefully everything will be in good running order in time of the upcoming hectic fixture period with 6 or 7 matches in the upcoming two weeks. Followed by a couple of weeks off (I'm guessing an International window??). Then it is time for the crazy holiday period to start – Where we will be playing at a MINIMUM of 11 matches (depends on Cup results, which could add an extra match or two) over the last 4½ to 5 weeks of the calendar year.

It will be over these periods of the season that will determine whether the team has a realistic chance at challenging for the title or not.


I'm not Postecoglou's biggest fan but Jesus H Christ does this Celtic squad have more than its fair share of coach-killers. Its the players jobs to put the chances away, the managers job to set them up to create the chances.  Right now, its the players that ere fucking him over, rather than the other way around.

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CanberraHarry - 20 Oct 2021 5:52 PM
ErogenousZone - 20 Oct 2021 5:07 PM

Umm, Mourinho? I am not comparing Ange to Mourinho in terms of success or ability but just saying that ‘sensitive’ or edgy or emotional coaches can and do, do well. Sir Alex was also known to get a bit prickly with journalists and players as well. I’ll be honest, I actually don’t understand the point you are trying to make. If it’s as simple as you don’t to think he will do well in Europe, fair enough, but because he is too ‘sensitive’. Really, what do you mean?

Agree. Sounds like a bit of an agenda from the poster.
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ErogenousZone - 20 Oct 2021 5:07 PM
Ange is way too sensitive to be a top flight coach. In European football that is a major hinderance. 



Based on what? He has been professional during the praise and criticism. 
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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 20 Oct 2021 6:15 PM
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Is he not the only one to have participated also ?

Also the only Australian coach to have won 2 major continental trophies  - Oceania Championship and Asian Federation Cup...... Once he scoops the double in SPL and wins Europa he can head down to Boca Juniors for a real challenge..... :)
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I’ve never followed Celtic before, but Turnbull has a knack for scoring unusual goals. Either a mess like his goal yesterday or a belter from 35 yards out. He seems like a good player who must frustrate fans.
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It was a pleasure to watch Celtic yesterday, they are a poor mans Ajax who were even better to watch

Europe is funding the war not Chelsea football club

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BrisbaneBhoy - 20 Oct 2021 5:49 PM
CanberraHarry - 20 Oct 2021 1:14 PM

Could have/should have, but didn't. That said, I'm just happy with the win, and a second clean sheet in a row. That can be a foundation that can be built on. Especially with the injured players list reducing in size with each passing week (probably just cursed the team with that comment😬).

Hopefully everything will be in good running order in time of the upcoming hectic fixture period with 6 or 7 matches in the upcoming two weeks. Followed by a couple of weeks off (I'm guessing an International window??). Then it is time for the crazy holiday period to start – Where we will be playing at a MINIMUM of 11 matches (depends on Cup results, which could add an extra match or two) over the last 4½ to 5 weeks of the calendar year.

It will be over these periods of the season that will determine whether the team has a realistic chance at challenging for the title or not.

And clearly during these busy periods it helps to have a deep squad with two players for every position. As you say, several players coming back from long term injury so the squad depth is improving. I’ll be interested to see when Julien and Forrest are ready and what impact they make. 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 20 Oct 2021 5:02 PM
CanberraHarry - 20 Oct 2021 4:51 PM

I really hope he does the doubters wrong... Interestingly saw a comment today that Ange is the first Australian coach to have ever won a Europa League tie ..... 

Is he not the only one to have participated also ?
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ErogenousZone - 20 Oct 2021 5:07 PM
Ange is way too sensitive to be a top flight coach. In European football that is a major hinderance. 



Umm, Mourinho? I am not comparing Ange to Mourinho in terms of success or ability but just saying that ‘sensitive’ or edgy or emotional coaches can and do, do well. Sir Alex was also known to get a bit prickly with journalists and players as well. I’ll be honest, I actually don’t understand the point you are trying to make. If it’s as simple as you don’t to think he will do well in Europe, fair enough, but because he is too ‘sensitive’. Really, what do you mean?
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CanberraHarry - 20 Oct 2021 1:14 PM
Good 2-0 win for Celtic against Ferencvaros. All reports say they could have scored five or six, and CalMac missed a pen. Hart apparently made a few good saves though, to be fair.

Could have/should have, but didn't. That said, I'm just happy with the win, and a second clean sheet in a row. That can be a foundation that can be built on. Especially with the injured players list reducing in size with each passing week (probably just cursed the team with that comment😬).

Hopefully everything will be in good running order in time of the upcoming hectic fixture period with 6 or 7 matches in the upcoming two weeks. Followed by a couple of weeks off (I'm guessing an International window??). Then it is time for the crazy holiday period to start – Where we will be playing at a MINIMUM of 11 matches (depends on Cup results, which could add an extra match or two) over the last 4½ to 5 weeks of the calendar year.

It will be over these periods of the season that will determine whether the team has a realistic chance at challenging for the title or not.

🇮🇪Hail Hail🇮🇪

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theFOOTBALLlover - 4 Oct 2021 11:32 PM
BrisbaneBhoy - 4 Oct 2021 8:18 PM

Haha definitely not a parallel universe.. Celtic still conceded against Aberdeen. 

I don't know.... 2 clean sheets since.

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Ange is way too sensitive to be a top flight coach. In European football that is a major hinderance. 



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CanberraHarry - 20 Oct 2021 4:51 PM
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I watched that 15 minute press conference and Ange was very generous in his praise and respect to Puskas, understandably, when responding to a Hungarian journalist. Now, not everyone has to like Ange’s tactics, fair enough, and sometimes I wish he’d tighten up the midfield just a little, but when people say “Ange is naive about European football”, as if he hasn’t watched it all his life, hasn’t smelt it and felt it to the very core of his being, all I can do is laugh at them. No use arguing with such dullards, inwardly mocking them is enough for me.

I really hope he does the doubters wrong... Interestingly saw a comment today that Ange is the first Australian coach to have ever won a Europa League tie ..... 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 20 Oct 2021 2:35 PM

I watched that 15 minute press conference and Ange was very generous in his praise and respect to Puskas, understandably, when responding to a Hungarian journalist. Now, not everyone has to like Ange’s tactics, fair enough, and sometimes I wish he’d tighten up the midfield just a little, but when people say “Ange is naive about European football”, as if he hasn’t watched it all his life, hasn’t smelt it and felt it to the very core of his being, all I can do is laugh at them. No use arguing with such dullards, inwardly mocking them is enough for me.
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Good 2-0 win for Celtic against Ferencvaros. All reports say they could have scored five or six, and CalMac missed a pen. Hart apparently made a few good saves though, to be fair. Just last season the Hungarians beat them 1-2 in Glasgow so a good comparison. That’s three wins in a row for Celtic, including two away in the League. The is has bought Ange a little breathing time, not much, but a little. By all accounts the side is looking more settled now and it’s useful that the likes of Bitton, Mikey Johnstone and the Greek striker are coming off the bench and making a difference. With Julien to return soon, and the Croatian right back, they seem to have a little more depth in the squad. Fingers crossed, as the critics are still ready with poison arrows!
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Bump for return to club football 
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BrisbaneBhoy - 4 Oct 2021 8:18 PM
What's going on here?? Am I in some sort of parallel universe?? Usually my comments get attacked as some sort of nut raving on about some unjust bias towards Celtic or just a Celtic mouthpiece, that has no right defending/correctly any misinformation because it doesn't fit the criteria of some of the posters on here.

I cannae recall the last time someone thank me for a post regarding Celtic, let alone complimented it... Yet here it happen, not once but twice!!! Thank you guys (theFOOTBALLlover & CanberraHarry), you both are very much welcomed, and thank you, your comments/replies were/are very much appreciated it 🙂😊

That said, should I be somewhat concerned/scared moving forward if I have found my way into some sort of a parallel universe?? 🤔😬😳  Or embrace it, has our defensive issues may no longer be a concern in this other parallel universe??🤔😄😊

Haha definitely not a parallel universe.. Celtic still conceded against Aberdeen. 
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What's going on here?? Am I in some sort of parallel universe?? Usually my comments get attacked as some sort of nut raving on about some unjust bias towards Celtic or just a Celtic mouthpiece, that has no right defending/correctly any misinformation because it doesn't fit the criteria of some of the posters on here.

I cannae recall the last time someone thank me for a post regarding Celtic, let alone complimented it... Yet here it happen, not once but twice!!! Thank you guys (theFOOTBALLlover & CanberraHarry), you both are very much welcomed, and thank you, your comments/replies were/are very much appreciated it 🙂😊

That said, should I be somewhat concerned/scared moving forward if I have found my way into some sort of a parallel universe?? 🤔😬😳  Or embrace it, has our defensive issues may no longer be a concern in this other parallel universe??🤔😄😊

🇮🇪Hail Hail🇮🇪

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CanberraHarry - 4 Oct 2021 10:02 AM
BrisbaneBhoy - 2 Oct 2021 10:12 PM

One of the best posts I have read here for quite a while! Thank you. Good insights as a Celtic supporter and also fair comments on Ange.



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