Just how Skint is the APL ?


Just how Skint is the APL ?

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robbos - 15 May 2024 9:08 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 14 May 2024 5:15 PM

Brisbane v Mariners 2011? with the comeback

Find this video, do yourself a favour!!!!

Yeah I watched that one... Postacoglou in charge during the "Roarcelona" years yeah? Great football to watch... I reakon I watched the most Aleague during those 2-3 years than I ever have or will. 
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Simon Hill with a rather good spray



https://open.spotify.com/episode/6ENOoGNghQUhymDWvJ6PAZ?si=T0CBEurVTvqTT7YWt76GJA

Relevant to this thread is his assertion that the TV deal hasn't changed since the 22/23 re-negotiation

Any drop in Central Funding is down to the APL, not Paramount



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The gf will be on ten bold they are only showing one match a week
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Razor Ramon - 14 May 2024 1:23 AM

Nope I dont love the A-league is struggling.  I still wish we had all the games on foxtel and foxtel paid 60-70 million a year for 8 years for it. Then have one or 2 free to air games on Channel 10.

If we leave Paramount (and the rumours are that we might) and we join another streaming service, who will be our FTA partner? If we go back to Fox Sports for example, I would doubt Channel 10 will continue to do the 2 games on 10Bold. And I don't really fancy being on secondary channels on the ABC or SBS. 

Balin Trev - 14 May 2024 2:17 PM

According to tv guide Mariners v Smurfs is on ch 12/10 bold 7.30 👍 nux v victory only Paramount.

Will Paramount be doing their own commentary for Nix v Victory? Or are we taking the Sky Sports feed with those shocking NZ commentators? That might explain why its not on 10Bold.  

NicCarBel - 14 May 2024 4:53 PM

I honestly haven't watched many Australian grand finals... I could probably actually list all the ones I've watched.


Last year was the first one i didn't watch... And I did it out of protest. 

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Monoethnic Social Club - 14 May 2024 5:15 PM
NicCarBel - 14 May 2024 4:53 PM

I remember a couple of Brisbane ones and funnily enough I actually went to the Victory v Adelaide one in 2007 (my 3rd and last ever Aleague match) I reckon I have watched most of them over the years.... nothing stands out to me though...

The Perth v Wolves GF from NSL days was memorable as of course the 1991 classic :) Still remember tearing up in the stands, we robbed the Knights that day my friend, stole it from their fingertips....  people were streaming out of the ground in defeat, the Cro boys where chanting "We are the champions" in glee and Joey Palatsidis scored one of the most memorable goals I have ever witnessed live (not the prettiest or even that good tbh)  just football nirvana.... and Puskas sitting on the bench, watching us lose our minds in the terraces, and not even flinching.... 

https://www.facebook.com/smfc59/videos/1991-nsl-grand-final/502049470967902/

Brisbane v Mariners 2011? with the comeback

Find this video, do yourself a favour!!!!
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Sellout crowd at the RoF should surely do the APL some good

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NicCarBel - 14 May 2024 4:53 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 14 May 2024 4:42 PM

I honestly haven't watched many Australian grand finals... I could probably actually list all the ones I've watched.
Sydney v Mariners 2006
Melbourne v Adelaide 2007
F3 Derby 2008 (featuring MC Dickslap)
2009 I think was the Melbourne v Adelaide rematch?
That was around when I stopped watching grand finals regularly....
The ones in my memory bank are
Brisbane v Mariners 2011? with the comeback
Brisbane v Perth would have been 2012 with the penalty
Next I remember is Big Blue 2015
There was the Adelaide v Wanderers one which I remember was before I got married, so would have to be 2016.
Then another Big Blue some around there, followed up by Perth v Sydney would have been the last one I watched?

Pretty sure my first one actually was one of the Perth NSL Grand Finals, I would have been 10-11 at the time though so I don't remember much except my brother going on about his mate at Northern Spirit



I remember a couple of Brisbane ones and funnily enough I actually went to the Victory v Adelaide one in 2007 (my 3rd and last ever Aleague match) I reckon I have watched most of them over the years.... nothing stands out to me though...

The Perth v Wolves GF from NSL days was memorable as of course the 1991 classic :) Still remember tearing up in the stands, we robbed the Knights that day my friend, stole it from their fingertips....  people were streaming out of the ground in defeat, the Cro boys where chanting "We are the champions" in glee and Joey Palatsidis scored one of the most memorable goals I have ever witnessed live (not the prettiest or even that good tbh)  just football nirvana.... and Puskas sitting on the bench, watching us lose our minds in the terraces, and not even flinching.... 

https://www.facebook.com/smfc59/videos/1991-nsl-grand-final/502049470967902/

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Monoethnic Social Club - 14 May 2024 4:42 PM
someguyjc - 14 May 2024 2:36 PM

Ill try and catch it but have a few things on Saturday... I was more interested in the GF though, at least one game a year I try and watch... pretty stupid move to have it hidden    

I honestly haven't watched many Australian grand finals... I could probably actually list all the ones I've watched.
Sydney v Mariners 2006
Melbourne v Adelaide 2007
F3 Derby 2008 (featuring MC Dickslap)
2009 I think was the Melbourne v Adelaide rematch?
That was around when I stopped watching grand finals regularly....
The ones in my memory bank are
Brisbane v Mariners 2011? with the comeback
Brisbane v Perth would have been 2012 with the penalty
Next I remember is Big Blue 2015
There was the Adelaide v Wanderers one which I remember was before I got married, so would have to be 2016.
Then another Big Blue some around there, followed up by Perth v Sydney would have been the last one I watched?

Pretty sure my first one actually was one of the Perth NSL Grand Finals, I would have been 10-11 at the time though so I don't remember much except my brother going on about his mate at Northern Spirit



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someguyjc - 14 May 2024 2:36 PM
Balin Trev - 14 May 2024 2:17 PM

There you go Mono, you can watch the Sea Bogans on Saturday. To be honest, that will be the better game to watch. MV and Nix are the worst match-up for the neutral viewer.

Ill try and catch it but have a few things on Saturday... I was more interested in the GF though, at least one game a year I try and watch... pretty stupid move to have it hidden    
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Balin Trev - 14 May 2024 2:17 PM
someguyjc - 14 May 2024 2:04 PM

According to tv guide Mariners v Smurfs is on ch 12/10 bold 7.30 👍 nux v victory only Paramount. GF who knows?

There you go Mono, you can watch the Sea Bogans on Saturday. To be honest, that will be the better game to watch. MV and Nix are the worst match-up for the neutral viewer.
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someguyjc - 14 May 2024 2:04 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 14 May 2024 1:22 PM

First leg of the semi was on FTA, but they say because the second leg is a decider then you have to pay. Really dumb. Pretty sure the GF will only be on Paramount+ as well.

I always thought for some reason that the Australian Domestic grand final would have been on the anti-siphoning list, but alas it is not.
  • Socceroos and Matildas matches at a FIFA World Cup finals
  • FIFA World Cup Final (mens and womens)
  • Socceroos and Matildas home qualification matches for a FIFA World Cup
  • All Olympic football (as each event as part of the Summer Olympic Games are included)
No more FA Cup final on there too, I remember that was a main stay.

Interestingly, both the NRL and AFL full competition (each match in the AFL/NRL competition, including the Finals Series) are on the list, yet... obviously not all games are on FTA.

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someguyjc - 14 May 2024 2:04 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 14 May 2024 1:22 PM

First leg of the semi was on FTA, but they say because the second leg is a decider then you have to pay. Really dumb. Pretty sure the GF will only be on Paramount+ as well.

According to tv guide Mariners v Smurfs is on ch 12/10 bold 7.30 👍 nux v victory only Paramount. GF who knows?
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Monoethnic Social Club - 14 May 2024 1:22 PM
someguyjc - 14 May 2024 1:10 PM

Sorry that prices me out of the equation ... Oh well cant say I didnt try :P

First leg of the semi was on FTA, but they say because the second leg is a decider then you have to pay. Really dumb. Pretty sure the GF will only be on Paramount+ as well.
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someguyjc - 14 May 2024 1:10 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 14 May 2024 1:04 PM

Paramount+ only for these games.


Sorry that prices me out of the equation ... Oh well cant say I didnt try :P
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Monoethnic Social Club - 14 May 2024 1:04 PM
Coverdale - 14 May 2024 12:38 PM

Sure OK Ill watch the Victory game on tv this Saturday, which channel is it on?

Paramount+ only for these games.


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Coverdale - 14 May 2024 12:38 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 14 May 2024 12:19 PM

Your argument is stupid. Why not just treat aleague as a tv thing. Also it’s on at good times and has aussies in it. 

Sure OK Ill watch the Victory game on tv this Saturday, which channel is it on?
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Monoethnic Social Club - 14 May 2024 12:19 PM
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What are you talking about.... I support the league "right at my doorstep" and have done for the last 40 odd years.... Was at the match on Sunday, will be at the OG derby at Somers St vs Knights on Friday and then the FA cup match against Preston on Tuesday... If my team ever gained promotion to the Aleague then perhaps I would watch other clubs matches like I do NPL at the moment, until then Aleague doesn't exisit for me.... not sure what part of that is hard to understand?

My "support" for Liverpool is a tv thing, who cares if they win or lose? just like watching other overseas football, it makes it more interesting if you have a team in the league to barrack for. 

Your argument is stupid. Why not just treat aleague as a tv thing. Also it’s on at good times and has aussies in it. 
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SoccerooFan - 14 May 2024 12:09 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 14 May 2024 11:55 AM

Fair enough. You support one of the big teams in the EPL don't you? Why did you start feeling engaged with that team/ league? You've got a league right at your doorstep, with most of the best young Aussie players, Socceroos past & present, playing and it's of no interest whatsoever?

What are you talking about.... I support the league "right at my doorstep" and have done for the last 40 odd years.... Was at the match on Sunday, will be at the OG derby at Somers St vs Knights on Friday and then the FA cup match against Preston on Tuesday... If my team ever gained promotion to the Aleague then perhaps I would watch other clubs matches like I do NPL at the moment, until then Aleague doesn't exisit for me.... not sure what part of that is hard to understand?

My "support" for Liverpool is a tv thing, who cares if they win or lose? Its just like watching other overseas football, it makes it more interesting if you have a team in the league to barrack for. 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 14 May 2024 11:55 AM
SoccerooFan - 14 May 2024 11:18 AM

When a player from NPL and below gets signed directly to an overseas contract that indeed is a major cause of celebration... Even if the player is non contracted here the Australian club would usually get some sort of player training compensation at the least... some even pocket a hefty sum to then use to train further players. 

I dont have a problem with the Aleague, it doesnt exist for me and thousands of others ... nor does it want to engage with us.. It is "fishing where the fish are" and good luck to it... while it lasts.


Fair enough. You support one of the big teams in the EPL don't you? Why did you start feeling engaged with that team/ league? You've got a league right at your doorstep, with most of the best young Aussie players, Socceroos past & present, playing and it's of no interest whatsoever?
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SoccerooFan - 14 May 2024 11:18 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 14 May 2024 10:21 AM

Yeah they deserve recognition for developing the players, but it still doesn't explain why you have such a problem with the A League? Say one of your club's players gets signed directly by a big OS club, your not going to have a problem with that are you, because it's in the player's best interest for their career?

When a player from NPL and below gets signed directly to an overseas contract that indeed is a major cause of celebration... Even if the player is non contracted here the Australian club would usually get some sort of player training compensation at the least... some even pocket a hefty sum to then use to train further players. 

I dont have a problem with the Aleague, it doesnt exist for me and thousands of others ... nor does it want to engage with us.. It is "fishing where the fish are" and good luck to it... while it lasts.


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Monoethnic Social Club - 14 May 2024 10:21 AM
SoccerooFan - 13 May 2024 11:41 PM

Do the clubs they get poached FROM not deserve any recognition? 

Yeah they deserve recognition for developing the players, but it still doesn't explain why you have such a problem with the A League? Say one of your club's players gets signed directly by a big OS club, your not going to have a problem with that are you, because it's in the player's best interest for their career?
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SoccerooFan - 13 May 2024 11:41 PM

Not surprised you don't understand when that's the criteria you think is relevant

Haha so why do you hate the league smart arse? I see the a league as a "development league" where our best young players get a solid number of senior games under their belts before a potential move OS. That's the main reason I watch & support the league 
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Midfielder - 13 May 2024 11:21 PM
Reports are emerging of how low the broadcast deal is getting to.

The league is also in need of promotion, DT blow the lot...

We as a Football community are left to clean it up.

I cannot see, with reports the broadcast deal to clubs has been suggest to be as low as 3 million and to be spread across, either, 12, 13 or 14 clubs....

I can't see how the existing wage structure can be paid if the broadcast revenue is so small.

Is it time to scrap the cap, reduce min wage levels.... 

Nothing to do with the "football community" mate... The APL cant have it both ways... its their mess, they can clean it up... 
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SoccerooFan - 13 May 2024 11:41 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 9 May 2024 9:47 AM

Yeah I bet you guys that do nothing but bag the A League are loving this. Still don't really understand all of the hate, considering most of our NT players come through the league. 

Do the clubs they get poached FROM not deserve any recognition? 
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SoccerooFan - 13 May 2024 11:41 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 9 May 2024 9:47 AM

Yeah I bet you guys that do nothing but bag the A League are loving this. Still don't really understand all of the hate, considering most of our NT players come through the league. 

Not surprised you don't understand when that's the criteria you think is relevant

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bohemia - 14 May 2024 12:52 AM
Having a look at that Saving Football special on Code Sports.

True that they sent 70 people on a junket to the world cup, but can't have an awards ceremony for the players for cost cutting?

That Danny Townsend bloke. Gotta hope when he's in Saudi Arabia that he looks the wrong way at someone's sister.

I'd hate to have Townsend manage my fruit shop...if I had one.
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SoccerooFan - 13 May 2024 11:41 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 9 May 2024 9:47 AM

Yeah I bet you guys that do nothing but bag the A League are loving this. Still don't really understand all of the hate, considering most of our NT players come through the league. 

Nope I dont love the A-league is struggling.  I still wish we had all the games on foxtel and foxtel paid 60-70 million a year for 8 years for it. Then have one or 2 free to air games on Channel 10.
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Having a look at that Saving Football special on Code Sports.

True that they sent 70 people on a junket to the world cup, but can't have an awards ceremony for the players for cost cutting?

That Danny Townsend bloke. Gotta hope when he's in Saudi Arabia that he looks the wrong way at someone's sister.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 9 May 2024 9:47 AM
Razor Ramon - 8 May 2024 11:14 PM

No big deal. Most of the Aleague franchises have had 20 years to build a membership base and they will all have a senior team competing in the state based NPLs for their fans to follow..  They will just have to start building again to get to the top league.

Yeah I bet you guys that do nothing but bag the A League are loving this. Still don't really understand all of the hate, considering most of our NT players come through the league. 
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Reports are emerging of how low the broadcast deal is getting to.

The league is also in need of promotion, DT blow the lot...

We as a Football community are left to clean it up.

I cannot see, with reports the broadcast deal to clubs has been suggest to be as low as 3 million and to be spread across, either, 12, 13 or 14 clubs....

I can't see how the existing wage structure can be paid if the broadcast revenue is so small.

Is it time to scrap the cap, reduce min wage levels.... 
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