An incredibly boring, repetitive thread about ethnic clubs


An incredibly boring, repetitive thread about ethnic clubs

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Here you go, TheKAT, PAOKTZI etc.

Talk about your shitty ethnic clubs here and stay out of the section where we discuss real clubs.

Maybe you can even dream your unattainable dreams of being part of the A-League.

Cheers.
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scouse_roar wrote:
Here you go, TheKAT, PAOKTZI etc.

Talk about your shitty ethnic clubs here and stay out of the section where we discuss real clubs.

Maybe you can even dream your unattainable dreams of being part of the A-League.

Cheers.


you are unaustralian!!!!!!!!!!!!
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you are a troll and a manipulator of fact in an attempt to hoodwink the rest of the non Olympic supporting Universe.

I also doubt you are old enough to have attended any NSL matches.
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I love the constant cycle the ethnic supports have of "bash A-League for being 10 times worse than the NSL" then "whine about being left out" over and fucking over.

Make up your mind.
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Is this thread necessary? seriously on both sides of the coin some of you are morons, thank god we still have afl footy in this country.
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hahaha
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Every Queenslander has one annoying and delusional New South Whales supporter mate that he has to put up with, A-league fans have NSL football extreemists they have to deal with...
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macktheknife wrote:
I love the constant cycle the ethnic supports have of "bash A-League for being 10 times worse than the NSL" then "whine about being left out" over and fucking over.

Make up your mind.


how many games has your franchise played :oops: :oops: :oops:
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This is from one of our Olympic lads FB page:

R.E AEK Training @ Belmore "WELL ALL MUST GO THIS GUYS, WE WANT A-LEAGUE WE NEED TO SHOW IT TO PEOPLE"

Then this "fuck the gay league is the worst comp going around the NSWPL is heaps better to watch"

"Sydney FC versus Central Coast Mariners crowd 1,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FARK YOUR A-LEAGUE CANTS to those 10-15 greeks who want to pretend to support the jews fark you to
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Hmmmm seems like a little bit of a contradiction Alex.......need to pick a viewpoint and stick to it. Least you can manage to maintain your commitment to hating Jews.
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It's all so tedious and circuitous.

I don't understand it at all. I mean I make the same thread over and over with slight variations, and the same posts over and over with slight variations, and the same phrases over and over with slight variations, but not on exactly the same topic.
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Soccer's Debt to New Australians - 1954
Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:08
SPORTING LIFE - JUNE 1954

Migration has given Australian Soccer its greatest boom in the history of the sport. No longer is this, the national game of most countries, a 'paddock pastime' in the land of rugby and Australian Rules.

It has progressed so much in the past seven years, with the influx of new Australians into the Commonwealth, that dyed-in-the-wool rules and Rugby administrators are becoming worried.

With the advent of enclosed grounds in most captials the drawing power of the sport has increased. As the crowds get bigger, finances of the clubs becomes healthier and the standard of the game improves.

Seven years ago, the standard of soccer in Australia, with the possible exception of New South Wales, was lamentably low. The industrial areas around Newcastle and the South Coast were always strong, again with a large active following of migrant, mostly British and Irish, population.

While NSW has also improved in the past few years - it recently won the Interstate Championship Trophy in Adelaide - it is in the other States that the improvement has been most marked. And it is the new settlers that have caused the improvement. It is not their own playing ability which has given the boost to the game so much but the tactics they have taught the older Australians.

The attendance figures at Soccer matches in NSW tell the story of increased interest in the sport in a nutshell. In 1952 the aggregate attendances for club matches was 132,306 according to the president of the association, Mr. G. L. Smith. In 1953 the attendance for club matches was 234,782 - an increase of 102,476 persons. And what is more the figures for 1954 already show that record will be substantially broken again.

The increase in the following in NSW is no different from that of other States. Infact, in some cases the calculated increase is higher.

In Victoria the national clubs such as Juventus, J.U.S.T., Hakoah, Polonia, George Cross and Maccabi have lifted the sport out of the doldrums.

The same clubs function in most other States as well.


Only two years ago, there were no enclosed grounds for Soccer in Victoria, with the exception of Olympic Park. But although Olympic Park has been lost temporarily for Olympic Games reconstruction, Soccer now boasts of five enclosed grounds with overworked turnstiles.

And they are not pokey grounds. The Italian team Juventus under the managership of ex-Italian Olympic cycling star and now successful Mel- bourne businessman, Nino Borsari, has its headquarters at the Melbourne Showground.

By next season, every first division club in Victoria will have an enclosed home ground.

Money is no object to the sport. Early this season the Prahran Club offered the local council £800 rental for Toorak Park, the headquarters of the Prahran Association Australian Rules team.

The council, pro Australian Rules in the majority, refused the offer to the anger of the local ratepayers' association. What upset the ratepayers was that the offer was just £775 more than the rental paid by the Australian Rules Club.

The Brighton City Council was not going to be placed in the same position with its ratepayers, when the Brighton Soccer Club made them an offer of £300 for the use of Elsternwick Park on alternate Saturdays to the Brighton Association Australian Rules team.

The council demanded £600, hoping to frighten off the club. The money was handed over on the spot and another stadium came into the grip of Soccer.

The migrant Soccer player is not necessarily a recruit for his own rational team. In fact, most of them are keen to play with other teams and there is not a club which has not got several European stars in its eleven.

Western Australia reports its best season ever, and attributes the im- provement in the standard of play to migrants from Soccer-playing countries and coaching. More people watched Soccer last season than ever before in the history of the W A Association. Premiers in Western Australia last season was the Italian Azzurri team, led by Guiseppe Scarparolna, with a record of 26 matches for 0 defeats.

In Western Australia, as in other States, the game is also catching on in the country. Wherever there is an influx of migrants into a particular district, it is not long before clubs and :fistrict associations spring up. There are seven teams playing in the Latrobe Valley Association in Victoria, and in a team of 11 at Sale there are 10 different nationalities. There are also three other country associations in Victoria.

The Latrobe Valley is the scene of huge new electrical undertaking schemes Government sponsored with migrant labor . The influence of the migrants on Australian Soccer can be seen in some of the State teams at the recent Australian carnival in Adelaide.


South Australia: C. Rittosa, L. Karsteds, S. Gennari, M. O'Malley, K. Lange L. Szuchanek, M. Busidoni, N. Scalamera, R. Lee, J. Freckleton, A. Kitas, A. Beattie, L. Toth, J. Keleman, Z. Kracmera, D. Pozza, G. Giglio, A. Godrik.

Western Australia: R. Oswald, J. Bevridge. C. Malec, C. Purser, M. Lucchesi R. Adair, W. Adair, V. Coccia. M. Casotti, F. Franchi, G. Nobbs. D. di-Loddo, D. McArdle. Z. Szymanski, J. Duggan, J. Masiero.

Victoria: S. Czauderna (pictured right), T. Jack, P. Clarke, B. Zablocki, S. Thomas, J. Lachmann, P. Schipper- heyn, J. Cottesman, R. Wemyss, L. Stott, R. Walker, A. Drennan, N. Garncarczylk, R. McKenzie. H. Sutherland, M. Vesovic, R. Strah ran.

The percentage of migrants in the NSW, Queensland and Tasmanian teams was not so great. Both States, with their older established clubs, have not been forced to draw on the new talent, but it will not be long before those new names will appear in carnival sides.

With the influx of new blood, Australian Soccer is reaching the standard, where it will be able to take its place in international competition without embarrassment. Several recent touring sides to visit Australia have noticed the marked improvement in standard of play and some Australians have been signed for leading football association clubs in England.

The secretary of the British Football Association, Mr. S. F. Rous, is talking in terms of regular matches between England and Australia. The fact that Australian Soccer bodies are not afraid to spend money to get new blood, especially coaches from overseas, will be a big factor in the future of Soccer in this country.

It was only last year that the Illawarra Leagues' Club cabled an offer of a £5000 sterling signing on fee. £500 a year for five years, plus a job at £20 a week to English Soccer idol, Stanley Matthews. Although Matthews declined the offer, it shows that there are businessmen in Australia willing to keep with the growing pace of Soccer in Australia. (It should also be noted that Victorian club Moreland, during the 1958 tour of Blackpool, reached a verbal agreement with Matthews to return to coach the team. Ed)

Victoria had better success. Early in May, Len Young, one of the seven qualified Football Association A grade coaches in England, arrived in Melbourne to coach for five years. The terms of his appointment were a house, fares to and from Australia for his wife and three children, plus a salary of £1250 a year.

With Australia's immigration policy still in full swing, new recruits are being added to Australian Soccer ranks and the game cannot help going ahead.

Whether it will be at the expense of other winter sports being played in Australia, yet remains to be seen. But there is one thing certain. If any sport is going to suffer it won't be Soccer.

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How times change.
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But what a rich, vibrant and colourful history our game has in this country.

We should celebrate the past, present and future.
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Agreed completely.

My comment was in regard to the fact that an article written in traditionally politically incorrect times when a spade really did get called a spade, was so openly positive about the effect of immigrants on the Aussie sporting landscape. No feeling of 'their' competition being threatened, or of 'ethnics' taking over, just a plain and simple - thank God these people are around.

As I say, compare that to the press in the 80s, 90's and 00's, and you see how times have changed. Everything is a threat now.
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scouse_roar wrote:
Here you go, TheKAT, PAOKTZI etc.

Talk about your shitty ethnic clubs here and stay out of the section where we discuss real clubs.

Maybe you can even dream your unattainable dreams of being part of the A-League.

Cheers.


Shitty clubs?

Show some repect you cunt.

"these Shitty Ethnic Clubs" have done more for soccer in australia then your plastic franchise rabble...& they still are the backbone of soccer in australia

these ethnic football clubs, are the real football clubs...a franchise isnt considered a real club...:oops:

you a footballing fan after 2005? seems so. :oops:

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Yes, shitty clubs. Can you read English?

I'm not sure who's in the top Australian league, can you remind me?

I was not supportive of football in Australia (outside the Socceroos) pre-2005, because ethnic clubs like yours alienated football fans like me and made it impossible to go to games without feeling intimidated and fearful.

And that same culture pervades even now, which is why there's such pitiful attendances and such low interest in your pissant little clubs.

Enjoy!


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scouse_roar wrote:
Yes, shitty clubs. Can you read English?

I'm not sure who's in the top Australian league, can you remind me?

I was not supportive of football in Australia (outside the Socceroos) pre-2005, because ethnic clubs like yours alienated football fans like me and made it impossible to go to games without feeling intimidated and fearful.

And that same culture pervades even now, which is why there's such pitiful attendances and such low interest in your pissant little clubs.

Enjoy!



It did make for an enjoyable atmosphere to play in though!
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scouse_roar wrote:
Yes, shitty clubs. Can you read English?

I'm not sure who's in the top Australian league, can you remind me?

I was not supportive of football in Australia (outside the Socceroos) pre-2005, because ethnic clubs like yours alienated football fans like me and made it impossible to go to games without feeling intimidated and fearful.

And that same culture pervades even now, which is why there's such pitiful attendances and such low interest in your pissant little clubs.

Enjoy!


When you're getting frustrated by people starting threads you don't like, leading to arguments you don't like, going and started a similar thread and entering into the inevitable argument that follows is a little... Erm... Dumb. Wouldn't you say?
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What can I say? I've been bored today. ;)
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I was a loose football fan until 2005, always "followed" Marconi as I did EPL, but never was connected with one. Now I go for, and attend, Marconi AND Mariners games.

Can't we all just get along?
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RedshirtWilly wrote:
I was a loose football fan until 2005, always "followed" Marconi as I did EPL, but never was connected with one. Now I go for, and attend, Marconi AND Mariners games.

Can't we all just get along?


Don't be stupid, football would be even more boring if not for the petty arguments, stupid comments and extreme opinions people make. :lol:
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scouse_roar wrote:
What can I say? I've been bored today. ;)


Elliot Gould wouldn't get bored. You should try to be more like him.
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scouse_roar wrote:
Yes, shitty clubs. Can you read English?

I'm not sure who's in the top Australian league, can you remind me?

I was not supportive of football in Australia (outside the Socceroos) pre-2005, because ethnic clubs like yours alienated football fans like me and made it impossible to go to games without feeling intimidated and fearful.

And that same culture pervades even now, which is why there's such pitiful attendances and such low interest in your pissant little clubs.

Enjoy!



So your main arguement here is because you didnt fit in...? complex or what...:lol:

feeling intimidated and fearful, of what a few thousand ethnics? this is gold, cant make this shit up :lol:

as for my pissant little club its been around for over 50 years, & 50 years to come (maybe you should take a look at your roster and see where most of your players come from)your franchise is barely 6 years old, ohh and we never had the FFA to bail us out of trouble, but i guess thats the benefit of being a franchise & not a real club...

Football Fan since 05...
:lol:

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There's a reason why mono-ethnic clubs don't have broad-based appeal, and that's because they're mono-ethnic.

I'm not Croatian, therefore I would not be welcome at your club. I'm not Greek, so I wouldn't be welcome at Olympic. Unfortunately, that's the way you set your clubs up, in a racist, elitist way which excluded the majority of football fans. The amount of violence which surrounded the NSL was very real and it did involve a lot of conflict transference - lots of tension between ethnic groups. It was like a war zone every match day.

If I wanted to enter a war zone, I'd go to Afghanistan. If I want to watch football, I'm going to go support my A-League club.

Perhaps if you weren't such a closed-minded c**t you'd be able to appreciate this - but clearly, you're just transferring your Balkan conflict over here in miniature and pretending I'm a Bosniak or Serb.


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The point is how would the croatians like a serbian ethnic club in there league? i mean really its disgraceful the god damn federal goverment should of stepped in lol.

these clubs shouldnt even be allowed in state league imo or any for that matter.

ofcourse though if they change there ethnic ties(like there names and logos) then they can stay and even join the a league.

Edited by Glory recruit: 13/8/2010 04:34:32 PM

Edited by Glory recruit: 13/8/2010 04:35:07 PM

Edited by Glory recruit: 13/8/2010 04:37:40 PM
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scouse_roar wrote:
There's a reason why mono-ethnic clubs don't have broad-based appeal, and that's because they're mono-ethnic.

I'm not Croatian, therefore I would not be welcome at your club. I'm not Greek, so I wouldn't be welcome at Olympic. Unfortunately, that's the way you set your clubs up, in a racist, elitist way which excluded the majority of football fans. The amount of violence which surrounded the NSL was very real and it did involve a lot of conflict transference - lots of tension between ethnic groups. It was like a war zone every match day.

If I wanted to enter a war zone, I'd go to Afghanistan. If I want to watch football, I'm going to go support my A-League club.

Perhaps if you weren't such a closed-minded c**t you'd be able to appreciate this - but clearly, you're just transferring your Balkan conflict over here in miniature and pretending I'm a Bosniak or Serb.



Usually you're a good bloke Scouse but some of this shit is so far wide of the mark. As for not being welcome, I can't speak for other clubs but you would be welcome at United. As far as I know no club actively turns away fans who aren't a certain ethnicity, they'd be stupid if they did, and I know United don't do this. The clubs were set up in the 50's as social clubs for immigrants from Europe, somewhere for them to meet up with people from back home and to feel connected to something. Those social clubs eventually grew beyond what most of them ever would have dreamed of. The amount of violence that surrounded the NSL was a whole lot less than was portrayed. There was not a whole lot more violence around the NSL than there is today, it's just back then football was seen as a sport just for wogs and they were portrayed as hooligans who couldn't go to a football game without fighting when that is just not true. Even now in the NSWPL there is no violence, no war zone as you described.

19-SU-58's main gripe here is with you insulting these clubs that helped make Australian football what it is today. People complain when people insult A-League clubs but it's a two street. There is shit being flung both ways and I'm fucking sick of it, it's fucking pathetic.
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Glory Recruit wrote:
The point is how would the croatians like a serbian ethnic club in there league? i mean really its disgraceful the god damn federal goverment should of stepped in lol.

these clubs shouldnt even be allowed in state league imo or any for that matter.

Edited by Glory recruit: 13/8/2010 04:34:32 PM

Edited by Glory recruit: 13/8/2010 04:35:07 PM


Um we do have a Serbian Club in our league#-o
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Glory Recruit wrote:


these clubs shouldnt even be allowed in state league imo or any for that matter.

ofcourse though if they change there ethnic ties(like there names and logos) then they can stay and even join the a league.

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So where would you propose these clubs go then, if not in the state league.

The only 2 that still have ethnic ties in their name are Marconi and Sydney Olympic.
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Names with ethnic ties is one thing, but supporters that chant in any other language that is not English is another. The sooner these clubs assimilate the better for Australian football.
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