Edited by Notorganic: 6/2/2015 10:06:16 PM

Was the co payment ideologically driven Labor tried to introduce in the 90s? How about the carbon tax and mining tax, were they not ideological driven taxes where as the copayment and deficit levy ideologically driven taxes? How about PPL, was Labors version of the PPL not ideologically driven whereas Abbotts PPL, the model which 90% of the OECD follows, ideologically driven? How about HECS, was the idea of Labor making students pay for their education not an ideologically drive choice, whereas LNPs policy to make students perhaps pay a more for their education (which all the universities support) ideologically driven?

Do you think it's possible you're just ideologically driven to oppose everything the LNP does? That every time the LNP announces or does something your knee jerk reaction is to scoff and oppose it, declaring it to be unworthy or wrong before ever knowing anything about it? Or is just Liberals who are ideologically driven and under the spell of their parental influence, while the left are free of all that and are able to exercise their beliefs detached from bias, and above all, parental influence?

The department did not say if it was asked to conduct research by the federal government before it announced the co-payment policy in the 2014 federal budget. Instead, the department undertook an extensive review of international research. But Stuart admits that data is old and not necessarily applicable.

“The international material and research is very equivocal and not directly related to the current Australian situation,” Stuart said.

“You say you rely on international evidence and research, and when I ask if you’ve done any of your own you say no, and then I ask what is the international evidence, you say it’s equivocal, and you have to take into account the specific circumstances in Australia. Who has been looking at the specific circumstances in Australia?” Cameron asked.

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/feb/06/health-department-admits-lack-of-in-depth-analysis-of-medicare-co-payment

Firstly ease up on the parental influence crap, it was specifically targeted at slygoat who spouts a whole lot of crap about dole bludgers but is not old enough to know about life's pressures and the social benefit having a safety net can bring.

Now for the rest:
Was the co payment ideologically driven Labor tried to introduce in the 90s? Yes and it was resoundingly rejected. Good to know we've been able to survive almost a quarter of a century without the whole system collapsing.

How about the carbon tax and mining tax, were they not ideological driven taxes where as the copayment and deficit levy ideologically driven taxes? There's evidence that an emissions trading scheme is the most efficient way to bring carbon emissions down. Something like the Mining tax has allowed Norway to prosper. Already covered copayment, deficit levy was passed for good reason.

How about PPL, was Labors version of the PPL not ideologically driven whereas Abbotts PPL, the model which 90% of the OECD follows, ideologically driven? There's evidence to support the PPL scheme. Abbott's wasn't ideologically driven, rather a desperate attempt to try and be relevant with female voters.

How about HECS, was the idea of Labor making students pay for their education not an ideologically drive choice, whereas LNPs policy to make students perhaps pay a more for their education (which all the universities support) ideologically driven?
Yes it is.

Here's how well researched the co-payment policy was



I can find you similar ones on the data retention policy and of course the NBN "cost benefit analysis" farce has been well and truly covered.

Edited by mcjules: 6/2/2015 07:39:21 PM

What do people think of the impending removal of penalty rates?

Pretty sure all research in history shows that in every case study, it doesn't work, which sucks. I've worked in retail for the past two years now and I'll confirm that they'll find it hard to get people to work Saturdays and Sundays without the extra money :lol:

Without pointing out how bad economically and socially it is as a policy, it's political suicide.

Will be another nail in their electoral coffin, the ALP will use it the same way Rudd used Workchoices in 07.

A lot of people need patently rates to survive. Worst decision ever. How can they even think about doing this?

My sister in law works in a pharmacy . She is 16 and has worked 13 days straight. Her pay is 9 bucks an hour and she can't say no as if she does another kid will get her job

My sister in law works in a pharmacy . She is 16 and has worked 13 days straight. Her pay is 9 bucks an hour and she can't say no as if she does another kid will get her job

There will always be shit employers, but I'm sure they wouldn't just drop her like that though. It's not worth any company's time to hire a new employee and train them just because a 16 year old said no to 1 shift.