Campbelltown Stadium is at the south end of the region. The Leppington site is dead centre of the south west region as it will be when fully developed. Unfortunately once Pirtek is upgraded there is not likely to be any money for another stadium.

Edited by gyfox: 7/11/2013 11:57:02 PM

Looking at the above two posts - makes sense but to accentuate the SE feel isn't Campbelltown a better option? And is parking really that bad out there?

A purpose-built site at Leppington would be good though.

Bonno, SU, Marconi and Macarthur all potential feeders.


Meanwhile, North West could be based on an expanded Blacktown City provided the right refurbs are made.

just wondering, what is currently considered central in the north-west because looking at the cityrail network, the transport between rouse hill, blacktown and carlingford looks like a nightmare, but by road, they should be pretty good

and if a south-west team was to be formed and based in leppington, dont expect people in fairfield/liverpool and further out towards bankstown/revesby to by driving in their droves down there.

The Leppington site is only 9km from Liverpool station so its 5km less than to Pirtek Stadium. With most of the development in Liverpool being on the western side it is even closer than that. Fairfield is a bit closer to Pirtek but only by a few kilometres. Bankstown is a bit further away but its only a 25 minute drive from Bankstown station. There is research around showing that yield from a market begins to drop off at the 30 minute travel mark and the eastern half of Bankstown would fall into that category. As for the southern half of Bankstown there are a number of places that you can get onto the motorway so its a fairly fast trip out to The Crossroads and you are nearly there.

It seems like it would be Blacktown, especially if we consider the growth area in NW Sydney is the area between Penrith and Richmond.
http://www.brownconsulting.com.au/sites/default/files/docs/Sydney%20Growth%20Profile%202013.pdf (check the 3rd page)

Only problem with Blacktown is there is no rectangular stadium and it does't seem too likely they will get one.



agree here, Liverpool seems like the obvious candidate for the SW as the centre of the region. And to my understanding it has a nice CBD similar to Parra which i think had a big impact on their success.

Also Liverpool looks like it might get its own stadium for the West Tigers and Bulldogs as RL want to lower its number of stadiums so if the FFA come along it might have a better chance of getting passed.

The government will upgrade sfs and anz stadium first so that there are 2 main stadiums in sydney (with a roof) and more of an entertainment precinct around the stadium.

After that is achieved (say 5 years), there might be more funds available for a sth west stadium perhaps. It would have to service rugby league teams as well etc and would have to be near public transport and an entertainment precinct.
Liverpool is the best option (Woodward park site) as it is not too far out and close to liverpool city, the freeway interchange and the train line.

THen you can build a south west sydney team if you have a stadium. Jersey: a shade of Green and black hoops like the 2009 Celtic away jersey.

9 sydney derbies a year :) 3 superclubs in sydney is enough to cater for everyone for the next 30 years.

Note for any future Wollongong team: avoid Sydney to Wollongong bike race, apparently very big and halved Wollongong Hawks attendance.

In the City of Cities planning document Liverpool was identified as the "capital" of South West Sydney with expectation that it develop into a centre that is a bit smaller than Parramatta.

Woodward Park was identified as a site for a stadium, however, the Oasis Project to develop it crashed amidst corruption allegations a decade or so ago. This was the stadium project that was initiated by the Bulldogs and it is politically tainted.

In August 2010 Liverpool City Council published a Stadium Options Paper that accepted the then government's identification of the southern end of the Western Parklands near Leppington as the site for a regional stadium for South West Sydney. The new government prepared a Stadia Strategy that identified the need for a Tier 2 stadium in Western Sydney. Liverpool City Council has been agitating for the stadium to be located in Liverpool and has put forward either the Woodward Park site or the Leppington site which is on its southern boundary.

Woodward Park has the advantage of being close to the "capital" of the region but involves moving conflicting sporting facilities and is not central to the region.

The Leppington site has the advantage of being near the geographical centre of the developed region, is a green fields site, would be located close by the proposed entertainment hub near Leppington station and as such will have public transport links to the entire city but it is a magnitude lower in size than Liverpool. Its worth noting that the South West Rail project to Leppington was due to open in 2016 but it is 12 months ahead of schedule so will come into service in 2 years time. As a result development in the 300k popuation South West Growth Centre will commence earlier than anticipated.

If no funding was available for a new stadium then Campbelltown stadium would suffice but it lacks an entertainment precinct.

Just out of interest this is what the centre of Leppington might look like.



http://www.gcc.nsw.gov.au/media/Pdf/Austral%20and%20Leppington%20North/Community%20info%20brochures/tc_brochure.pdf

Edited by gyfox: 8/11/2013 08:49:45 AM

yeh, the suburb itself currently has a population around 2,000 but it is planned to grow to 60,000 with nearby suburbs also having large growth around it.

I agree with many comments previous made here, but my questions is this: would plonking a new club in Sydney's south west really work if it would rely on new populations from new housing release areas?

Club's don't gain a following from new populations. They gain a following from established populations who have been there for generations and have a pride and loyalty to the area. The example is the Gold Coast. It's got a lot of new people, many ex-pats, and most clubs that have tried to establish there have failed.

I would say that if Sydney FC and Wanderers do things right, then new populations will continue to just get on board with these 2 clubs.

The South west sydney region has a stronger connection with football, where as people in the gold coast have a more of a golf/beach lifestlye. If there were 9 sydney derbies a year, it would make the new tv deal a lot more attractive ! Liverpool is the best position in sydney to base a new team if a new stadium is built there as it caters for the west/south west, wanderers caters for west/north west and sydney fc the rest.

The South west sydney region has a stronger connection with football, where as people in the gold coast have a more of a golf/beach lifestlye. If there were 9 sydney derbies a year, it would make the new tv deal a lot more attractive ! Liverpool is the best position in sydney to base a new team if a new stadium is built there as it caters for the west/south west, wanderers caters for west/north west and sydney fc the rest.

Old article but.



http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/its-not-quick-fire-says-the-anti-clive/1292875/

Good post. But I would still say that Liverpool is the centre of the region if we count the region as everywhere south of Fairfeild and West of Bankstown as the target of any future SW Sydney team not only geographically but if you count access to major roads and train lines. Even people as far south as Campbelltown would find it easier to get to Liverpool by train than Leppington. And I think train accessibility is extremely important since not everyone can drive.

However Leppington does have the advantage of all the free space so parking isn't an issue like it would be for any stadium built out of Woodward Park.

How about that crowd in Christchurch? Nice stadium too.

Not bad, but prefer the stadium in Napier, personally.

Shame Auckland doesn't have a boutique stadium near an entertainment district as it would be cool to see a New Zealand derby

Christchurch Earthquakes FC.

My 3rd earthquake joke for the week.

Pity the smaller population of Napier prefer not to attend said stadium, however :p

Not to mention Chicago Fire! Americans are weird.

They actually are.

Or they could sponsor it, provide a place to store your bike and try to entice the 20,000 people a kilometre or so down the road into the stadium.

Tarp off the top tiers of Eden Park. The stadium management are happy to have football there after two Nix games drew good crowds.

How cool would it be to have a Christchurch club buy the stadium and play out of it.

Huh? Napier had a good turnout, the seated area (3/4ths of the ground) was pretty much full from memory.

id love to see auckland city's kiwitea street stadium slowly expand when required. it has a good suburban look.

Quick correction, Forsyth Barr Stadium is in Dunedin, not Napier. Phoenix are yet to play in Napier IIRC.

I imagine most people came to that first game as it was the inauguration of the stadium.

The two games at Eden Park in Auckland drew 20,078 and 11,566 over the last two seasons, and the Nix drew 19,276 and 14,108 in the old Lancaster Stadium.

If these numbers can stay consistent with today's number, Auckland and Cristchurch must both surely be seen as options.

Populations:
1   Auckland   1,397,300
2   Wellington   395,600
3   Christchurch   375,900
4   Hamilton   209,300
5   Napier-Hastings   125,000
6   Tauranga   122,200
7   Dunedin   118,400

Not a great deal of room to grow, I'm afraid.