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Quote:Big Euro club to play A-League All Stars in 2014 Another big-name European club will head to Australia for an exhibition match against the A-League All Stars next year, FFA chief executive David Gallop has confirmed. A year to the day since Gallop began his tenure at the governing body, he recalls the debut of the All Star concept last July as one of the highlights of his first 12 months on the job. A capacity ANZ Stadium crowd of more than 83,000 turned up to watch the A-League's finest take on Manchester United in July. Four days later, an even bigger crowd poured into the MCG to witness fellow English Premier League giants Liverpool play Melbourne Victory. On the back of such success, Gallop confirmed the All-Star event would return next year with an opponent of a similar calibre. Gallop would not confirm which club the FFA was already negotiating with but Alessandro Del Piero's former Italian club Juventus is reported to be the frontrunner. "One of the highlights of this last year was the visits of those two big clubs and the creation of the All Stars - that's something that we see as an important new initiative," he told AAP on Tuesday. "We're currently looking at locking down a good opponent that will excite fans for next year. "We're looking at a big European club and it would happen after the World Cup." Gallop said he was delighted with the growth he had witnessed in the A-League during the past 12 months and said the FFA Cup, due to kick off next year, would give the league another boost. He cited record crowds and TV ratings as a clear indication the competition was on track, but ruled out any plans for expansion any time soon. "We don't see expansion on the agenda in the short to medium term," he said.
"Huge investments have been made by individuals into A-League clubs and we need to protect those investments and make sure that the competition is in the best shape possible before we consider expanding it.
"The good news is that off the back of a number of commercial deals, the financial picture of the A-League is much, much healthier than it ever has been but we need to continue to protect the investment that our current owners have made."
Twice, a second team in Queensland has failed with North Queensland Fury and Gold Coast folding.
And while Canberra has been thrown up as an option, Gallop all but ruled out the nation's capital, based on it's relatively small population.
"We haven't identified what our target zones would be," he said.
"Certainly the experience in Australian sport generally is that you need to be looking at areas with millions of people not hundreds of thousands if you're going to really have a viable crack at it.
"It is something we need to do at some point but not necessarily right now."
AAPRead more: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/big-euro-club-to-play-aleague-all-stars-in-2014-20131112-2xcy4.html#ixzz2lG92VThw Fuck I really fear they're gonna try Asia.... Melbourne won't have expansion until Heart are well established which only leaves Sydney in Australia and Auckland in NZ...
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Iridium1010 wrote:Quote:Big Euro club to play A-League All Stars in 2014 Another big-name European club will head to Australia for an exhibition match against the A-League All Stars next year, FFA chief executive David Gallop has confirmed. A year to the day since Gallop began his tenure at the governing body, he recalls the debut of the All Star concept last July as one of the highlights of his first 12 months on the job. A capacity ANZ Stadium crowd of more than 83,000 turned up to watch the A-League's finest take on Manchester United in July. Four days later, an even bigger crowd poured into the MCG to witness fellow English Premier League giants Liverpool play Melbourne Victory. On the back of such success, Gallop confirmed the All-Star event would return next year with an opponent of a similar calibre. Gallop would not confirm which club the FFA was already negotiating with but Alessandro Del Piero's former Italian club Juventus is reported to be the frontrunner. "One of the highlights of this last year was the visits of those two big clubs and the creation of the All Stars - that's something that we see as an important new initiative," he told AAP on Tuesday. "We're currently looking at locking down a good opponent that will excite fans for next year. "We're looking at a big European club and it would happen after the World Cup." Gallop said he was delighted with the growth he had witnessed in the A-League during the past 12 months and said the FFA Cup, due to kick off next year, would give the league another boost. He cited record crowds and TV ratings as a clear indication the competition was on track, but ruled out any plans for expansion any time soon. "We don't see expansion on the agenda in the short to medium term," he said.
"Huge investments have been made by individuals into A-League clubs and we need to protect those investments and make sure that the competition is in the best shape possible before we consider expanding it.
"The good news is that off the back of a number of commercial deals, the financial picture of the A-League is much, much healthier than it ever has been but we need to continue to protect the investment that our current owners have made."
Twice, a second team in Queensland has failed with North Queensland Fury and Gold Coast folding.
And while Canberra has been thrown up as an option, Gallop all but ruled out the nation's capital, based on it's relatively small population.
"We haven't identified what our target zones would be," he said.
"Certainly the experience in Australian sport generally is that you need to be looking at areas with millions of people not hundreds of thousands if you're going to really have a viable crack at it.
"It is something we need to do at some point but not necessarily right now."
AAPRead more: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/big-euro-club-to-play-aleague-all-stars-in-2014-20131112-2xcy4.html#ixzz2lG92VThw Fuck I really fear they're gonna try Asia.... Melbourne won't have expansion until Heart are well established which only leaves Sydney in Australia and Auckland in NZ... No way, the FFA aren't that stupid. It would be a monumentally idiotic decision regardless. But I think you can rest assured that De Bohun's comments about Asia were just a publicity stunt. When Gallop talks about places with "millions of people" I reckon that means more two-team cities like Ipswich in Brisbane.
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Quote:Fuck I really fear they're gonna try Asia....
Melbourne won't have expansion until Heart are well established which only leaves Sydney in Australia and Auckland in NZ... I fear they might have their eyes set on asia too. Would be a huge mistake imo and really just unnecessary since there are plenty of other teams that could succeed here. But on Melbourne expansion, I agree it won't happen till Heart is well established. But what would you call well established? 12k+ crowds? 15k+ crowds? I'm genuinely curious what people say. From the article. "We don't see expansion on the agenda in the short to medium term". It's hard to know exactly what he means by "short to medium term" but it certainly isn't in the next few years. To me, it probably is around 2021 when the next tv ends and i think its likely we will have grown a lot more by then (maybe not with Aloisi at the helm, but we have grown year on year) Also I wouldn't count out Ipswich as a second Brisbane team Edited by tbitm: 21/11/2013 06:08:13 PM
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Cappuccino wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:Quote:Big Euro club to play A-League All Stars in 2014 Another big-name European club will head to Australia for an exhibition match against the A-League All Stars next year, FFA chief executive David Gallop has confirmed. A year to the day since Gallop began his tenure at the governing body, he recalls the debut of the All Star concept last July as one of the highlights of his first 12 months on the job. A capacity ANZ Stadium crowd of more than 83,000 turned up to watch the A-League's finest take on Manchester United in July. Four days later, an even bigger crowd poured into the MCG to witness fellow English Premier League giants Liverpool play Melbourne Victory. On the back of such success, Gallop confirmed the All-Star event would return next year with an opponent of a similar calibre. Gallop would not confirm which club the FFA was already negotiating with but Alessandro Del Piero's former Italian club Juventus is reported to be the frontrunner. "One of the highlights of this last year was the visits of those two big clubs and the creation of the All Stars - that's something that we see as an important new initiative," he told AAP on Tuesday. "We're currently looking at locking down a good opponent that will excite fans for next year. "We're looking at a big European club and it would happen after the World Cup." Gallop said he was delighted with the growth he had witnessed in the A-League during the past 12 months and said the FFA Cup, due to kick off next year, would give the league another boost. He cited record crowds and TV ratings as a clear indication the competition was on track, but ruled out any plans for expansion any time soon. "We don't see expansion on the agenda in the short to medium term," he said.
"Huge investments have been made by individuals into A-League clubs and we need to protect those investments and make sure that the competition is in the best shape possible before we consider expanding it.
"The good news is that off the back of a number of commercial deals, the financial picture of the A-League is much, much healthier than it ever has been but we need to continue to protect the investment that our current owners have made."
Twice, a second team in Queensland has failed with North Queensland Fury and Gold Coast folding.
And while Canberra has been thrown up as an option, Gallop all but ruled out the nation's capital, based on it's relatively small population.
"We haven't identified what our target zones would be," he said.
"Certainly the experience in Australian sport generally is that you need to be looking at areas with millions of people not hundreds of thousands if you're going to really have a viable crack at it.
"It is something we need to do at some point but not necessarily right now."
AAPRead more: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/big-euro-club-to-play-aleague-all-stars-in-2014-20131112-2xcy4.html#ixzz2lG92VThw Fuck I really fear they're gonna try Asia.... Melbourne won't have expansion until Heart are well established which only leaves Sydney in Australia and Auckland in NZ... No way, the FFA aren't that stupid. It would be a monumentally idiotic decision regardless. But I think you can rest assured that De Bohun's comments about Asia were just a publicity stunt. When Gallop talks about places with "millions of people" I reckon that means more two-team cities like Ipswich in Brisbane. Yeh id say ur spot on, crazy they are saying they wont want to lok at areas with hundreds of thousands of people...which includes heartland area's like Woolongong! stupidd
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tbitm wrote:Quote:Fuck I really fear they're gonna try Asia....
Melbourne won't have expansion until Heart are well established which only leaves Sydney in Australia and Auckland in NZ... I fear they might have their eyes set on asia too. Would be a huge mistake imo and really just unnecessary since there are plenty of other teams that could succeed here. But on Melbourne expansion, I agree it won't happen till Heart is well established. But what would you call well established? 12k+ crowds? 15k+ crowds? I'm genuinely curious what people say. From the article. "We don't see expansion on the agenda in the short to medium term". It's hard to know exactly what he means by "short to medium term" but it certainly isn't in the next few years. To me, it probably is around 2021 when the next tv ends and i think its likely we will have grown a lot more by then (maybe not with Aloisi at the helm, but we have grown year on year) Also I wouldn't count out Ipswich as a second Brisbane team Edited by tbitm: 21/11/2013 06:08:13 PM For Heart I guess being profitable or breaking even, as I understand it now, Heart get some kind of special deal at AAMI which runs out soon, meaning they will start to lose more, is that correct? Forgot about Ipswich, not sure how much interest is there though, cant find participation rates either.
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Iridium1010 wrote:tbitm wrote:Quote:Fuck I really fear they're gonna try Asia....
Melbourne won't have expansion until Heart are well established which only leaves Sydney in Australia and Auckland in NZ... I fear they might have their eyes set on asia too. Would be a huge mistake imo and really just unnecessary since there are plenty of other teams that could succeed here. But on Melbourne expansion, I agree it won't happen till Heart is well established. But what would you call well established? 12k+ crowds? 15k+ crowds? I'm genuinely curious what people say. From the article. "We don't see expansion on the agenda in the short to medium term". It's hard to know exactly what he means by "short to medium term" but it certainly isn't in the next few years. To me, it probably is around 2021 when the next tv ends and i think its likely we will have grown a lot more by then (maybe not with Aloisi at the helm, but we have grown year on year) Also I wouldn't count out Ipswich as a second Brisbane team For Heart I guess being profitable or breaking even, as I understand it now, Heart get some kind of special deal at AAMI which runs out soon, meaning they will start to lose more, is that correct? Forgot about Ipswich, not sure how much interest is there though, cant find participation rates either. Just penned a new one for 3 years. Cost will likely go up when it runs up but i think it might be proportional to how large our fan base is.
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So sad to see St.George Stadium fall to such neglect. Holds special significance for me as South won their first national title there in 1984. Also visited the ground several times for away fixtures back in the day. You could virtually make eye contact with passengers on the planes that were coming and going. Also got to know the old SSS (St.George Sunday Service) crew who were a top bunch of blokes. I'm amazed no one uses it, would be a good spot although not knowing the geography of Sydney that well, for SFC to set up a training/youth base there.
As for expansion, no need to plug South from me.....what I'll say is that the FFA must be carefull now that the competition seems to be settling and going ok NOT to take any risks with regional franchisers. Too many of them have failed miserably in a variety of sports in this country. Those areas simply cannot sustain a pro club long term.
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tbitm wrote:David Gallop wrote:
"We don't see expansion on the agenda in the short to medium term," he said.
This probably cancels out any expansion at the end of this tv deal. More likely at the end of the next one which i assume would be 2021. Edited by tbitm: 13/11/2013 01:46:52 PM disagree....if Gallop says he wants to double the next TV deal then you can bet Foxtel or whoever wins the rights won't just settle for broadcasting 5 matches a week. Part of any new mega tv deal will be to have an extra 2 teams in the mix so they can broadcast 6 matches. Thing is too, if we are getting $80 million a year...all of sudden we can raise the salary cap, some decent talent will start to come in, and clubs will still be making a profit and ratings and crowds will soar...will be good times indeed. Edited by kavorka: 21/11/2013 08:14:08 PM
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i am stoked with gallop at the helm, but his policies on expansions are a bummer and will cause the league to be stale. would love to see wollongong and ipswich brought in for the 2016 season.
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11.mvfc.11 wrote:If the next Melbourne team isn't called Batmanians someone needs to be sacked. 100% agree! Better than Southern Cross FC; just makes me think of bogans running around in their wifebeaters where every second word they say starts with either an F or a C.
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If only the game at Win between Syd and Jets was advertised I've got mates that live 200-300m from there would of walked down and had no idea one of my friends said to me he walked pass and asked what was on and he lives 200 m away and somebody told him, they done advertise anything FFA/A-League, and a day or 2 after Gallop came out and said it was a "failure" the 6,500 wasn't good enough to make a thought for a team from Wollongong.
To your talk there about ST George stadium, Its meant to be demolished. Was to go 3 years ago i think but they had a hick up, it's currently "condemned", and on top of that they had the entire park closed due to fibro dumping out the front of the stadium so all 4 fields were not to be used. That was either 2 or 3 years ago.
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11.mvfc.11 wrote:If the next Melbourne team isn't called Batmanians someone needs to be sacked. You want to honour a Tasmanian reject by naming a team after him? ;)
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just daydreaming. but i cant wait until the HAL roster is something like. Brisbane Newcastle Central Coast Sydney Western Sydney Victory Heart Adelaide Perth Wellington Canberra Geelong Auckland Sunshine Coast Gold Coast Townsville/Cairns Tasmania Northern Rivers Ipswich Albury Wadonga any one else? Darwin? Port Moresby? Christchurch??
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inala brah wrote:just daydreaming. but i cant wait until the HAL roster is something like.
Brisbane
Newcastle
Central Coast
Sydney
Western Sydney
Victory
Heart
Adelaide
Perth
Wellington
Canberra
Geelong
Auckland
Sunshine Coast
Gold Coast
Townsville/Cairns
Tasmania
Northern Rivers
Ipswich
Albury Wadonga
any one else?
Darwin?
Port Moresby?
Christchurch??
South Coast NSW? No Port Moresby would never happen not sure about Northern Rivers?, Albury/Wadonga would be great but not likely.
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Eccentric ex-papparazzi millionaire Darryn Lyons has just been elected mayor of Geelong.
Big football fan (indeed he had a big hand in shaping the popular culture around the English Premier League) and has said in the past he would monetarily support a Geelong A-League team.
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paladisious wrote:Eccentric ex-papparazzi millionaire Darryn Lyons has just been elected mayor of Geelong.
Big football fan (indeed he had a big hand in shaping the popular culture around the English Premier League) and has said in the past he would monetarily support a Geelong A-League team. Wollongong Wolves and Canberra Athletic, plus Geelong City to replace Wellington, for the next deal =p~ =p~ =p~ =p~ =p~ =p~ =p~ =p~ =p~ Would jizz/10.
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paladisious wrote:Eccentric ex-papparazzi millionaire Darryn Lyons has just been elected mayor of Geelong.
Big football fan (indeed he had a big hand in shaping the popular culture around the English Premier League) and has said in the past he would monetarily support a Geelong A-League team. Good news (I think). But I'm not sure we want another eccentric, egotistical millionaire maniac starting up an A-League club.
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Pretty sure there are clubs in all these places.
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paladisious wrote:Eccentric ex-papparazzi millionaire Darryn Lyons has just been elected mayor of Geelong.
Big football fan (indeed he had a big hand in shaping the popular culture around the English Premier League) and has said in the past he would monetarily support a Geelong A-League team. Good stuff, the only problem is the stadium isn't exactly football friendly, but I guess it works for Wellington? It will be good to see the crowd for the ACL match should Victory get it. Edited by iridium1010: 25/11/2013 10:53:50 PM
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Geelong is a hole. There is no way it could support a team. It's an ALF town.
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Articles i found on Geelong- http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/skoko-backs-geelong-bid-for-a-league/story-e6frf9if-1111116375494http://sesasport.com/?p=355Plus other forums -http://mhfcsupporters.com/topic/1160-geelong/ -http://www.melbournevictory.net/forum/showthread.php?43281-Geelong-Steps-Up-Bid-For-An-A-League-Team Darryn Lyons might get something happening? He was willing to do a lot a few years ago(08/09).
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the afl stadium in geelong is too big for a team to ever be sustainable playing out of there. i wouldn't want to see a team there until they get a smaller stadium no bigger than 20,000 in capacity.
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my current stance on expansion
11. wollongong wolves (white/red)
12. ipswich pride (green/white)
13. geelong city (blue/white)
14. liverpool athletic/city (blue/black)
15. canberra cosmos/athletic (green/black)
16. (whoever is strongest out of south-east melbourne suburbs, tasmania, townsville, sunshine coast, auckland)
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inala brah wrote:just daydreaming. but i cant wait until the HAL roster is something like.
Brisbane
Newcastle
Central Coast
Sydney
Western Sydney
Victory
Heart
Adelaide
Perth
Wellington
Canberra
Geelong
Auckland
Sunshine Coast
Gold Coast
Townsville/Cairns
Tasmania
Northern Rivers
Ipswich
Albury Wadonga
any one else?
Darwin?
Port Moresby?
Christchurch??
Port Moresby :lol: So many things wrong with that
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In that article they say Geelong would be 'Victoria's first regional soccer team', who researched that and how did they not notice the Falcons?
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Very interesting seeing all the recent reports in the media about the Mariners considering a move to North Sydney Oval. I can understand why they're interested - there are millions of people that they could potentially tap into.
But moving a club's home ground, or sharing games between Gosford and North Sydney spell danger. You don't want to piss off the existing fanbase with moving stuff around. the Mariners fans need to be asked what they think of this.
Interesting that in 2003 the original model for the A-league in Sydney that was recommended by the NSL Task Force and the PFA was for Sydney to have 3 teams from the outset:
- one north of the harbour (i.e. North Sydney Oval)
- one south of the harbour (i.e. Moore Park)
- one in the west (i.e. Parramatta Stadium)
We'll end up achieving that model if the Mariners end up moving to north Sydney.
In 2004, when the FFA selected the teams for the A-league, they chose for Sydney just to have one team, based at Moore Park. I am now understanding more why they went down that path - basing a club at Moore Park wouldn't have the baggage of the old NSL - the Sydney Football Stadium wasn't closely linked with a former NSL club and was therefore the best option out of the possible stadiums available. North Sydney Oval (home of Northern Spirit) and Parramatat Stadium (home of Parra Power) would potentially remind fans too much of the NSL.
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williamn wrote:the afl stadium in geelong is too big for a team to ever be sustainable playing out of there. i wouldn't want to see a team there until they get a smaller stadium no bigger than 20,000 in capacity. Kardinia Park is only 33.5k, and a very thin field at 115 metres. I doubt in the short term a Geelong team will need to use the stands on the north and sound end so I think the stadium should be fine.
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...and I'm confident that Victory's ACL playoff there will prove it.
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paladisious wrote:...and I'm confident that Victory's ACL playoff there will prove it. Dates/do you know if it will be televised?
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