Maybe Queensland Lions were, but aren't Brisbane Roar's admin, training and matchdays all north of the river?

Putting another team up here in South East Queensland is naff unless it's well away from Brisbanes CBD. Brisbane itself is a one team city, anyone who is not a Brisbane Roar supporter here is not going to be picked up by a new team. Even if the strikers went out to Logan it would still be a disaster. No one from Gold Coast would support a Brisbane team either.

Ipswich, Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast are different cases though. They are far away enough from the Roar to not be suffocated out of the market, have high growth expectations and they each have their own independent identity. As long as people weren't expecting them to get mega crowds and we're happy for more small teams then they would be fine

Maybe Queensland Lions were, but aren't Brisbane Roar's admin, training and matchdays all north of the river?

The notion that the Roar aren't considered a south side team is laughable.

The problem with Southern Sydney is, Sydney FC sit right between North and South. You could eat into Sydney FC's support base.

Ideally from the start you would've had a Southern, Northern and Western team in Sydney, but there's a lack of any decent central stadium in the North.

3 Sydney teams in an 8 team comp at the start? Wow, that was a recipe for the NSL Mk 2. In a 10 team comp, it also seems a heavy weighting.

Having 2 teams (West and Central/East) was all that was needed in Sydney at the start, and in Melbourne having 2 teams would have also been beneficial at that stage.


CCM and NZ/WP would have been the losers from this plan, but given the challenges both those licenses have had since the start of the league, it may have been a better move.

I don't see how it's a recipe of NSL MK2. The problem with the NSL is that the teams were ethnically based, playing at shitty grounds. Three broad based teams in three distinct regions in a city of 4.5 million(like the Australasian Premier League suggested) would've been fine. Instead Sydney FC sit in between North and South, not properly tapping into either.

Wollongong.

What I said the other day, it's not just saying where and throwing them there but planing is the key. Go to the city, ask the people how they want their team. As fury have attempted and south coast football have spoken about once before on having a team in the youth league before they get their A-League team.

Having 2 teams (West and Central/East) was all that was needed in Sydney at the start, and in Melbourne having 2 teams would have also been beneficial at that stage.

SFC don't do that bad at pulling a crowd when they are doing well, so they still seem to be doing fairly well at getting support.

The West was the massive gap from day one, not really the North or the South, which were still within reach of either CCM or SFC.

The NSL was seen as heavily focused on Sydney/NSW for a long time, where clubs overlapped to only give each a smaller target market to possibly work with.

With these limitations, each club really could only attract a majority following from the core base, which ultimately seemed to revolve around a certain ethnicity, not particularly a geographic location.

The main example of this was the Western Sydney market, which had up to 4 clubs in the later years of the NSL (Marconi, United, Olympic and Parramatta Power). None of these could draw great crowds due to numerous factors, but the market overlap did not help build the competition.

In this regard, starting with a couple of clubs in different geographic areas made more sense from the start, but starting small was key. Targeting Central/East and West made far more sense to look at first.

On the condition it's not a team created from scratch

# NoEffnics

Wolves were never a mono ethnic team.

Sydney Olympic used to play at Kogarah Oval and Shark park in the NSL at least for some period of time, the stadiums that the FFA are looking at for a potential South Sydney club. How would people feel if they rebranded to South Sydney Olympic? They would bring several thousand of their own fans lessening the impact on Sydney FC and instead of setting up a new club to try to get the locals to support them, they would already have a bit of a connection to the area.

I also wouldn't count out South Melbourne from joining. When the bidding time comes around I don't think there will many better bids ready and fit the FFA's criteria. I think people need to start accepting City are set, more competition in Melbourne won't hurt us like it might have before.

Is it only a matter of time before we see Red Bull take over a club?

Sydney Olympic used to play at Kogarah Oval and Shark park in the NSL at least for some period of time, the stadiums that the FFA are looking at for a potential South Sydney club. How would people feel if they rebranded to South Sydney Olympic? They would bring several thousand of their own fans lessening the impact on Sydney FC and instead of setting up a new club to try to get the locals to support them, they would already have a bit of a connection to the area.

I also wouldn't count out South Melbourne from joining. When the bidding time comes around I don't think there will many better bids ready and fit the FFA's criteria. I think people need to start accepting City are set, more competition in Melbourne won't hurt us like it might have before.

Wollongong 'ready to have A-League', says Adelaide United boss Josep Gombau

All Stars coach Josep Gombau believes Wollongong is perfectly suited for A-League expansion.

The Adelaide United boss has spent the past five days training at WIN Stadium with the All Stars squad and gave the Illawarra’s top facility high praise on Monday.

He has made it no secret of his support for expansion of the competition and believes two more teams would be suitable for the A-League.

While he couldn’t comment on state of football in the region, the former Barcelona Youth Academy coach was adamant the facilities were up to the standard.

‘‘In terms of football honestly, I don’t know a lot. I saw the game of the local team [the Wolves] but in terms of facilities for sure this area is ready to have A-League here ... this field is amazing,’’ he said.

Gombau arrived in the Illawarra with the All-Stars squad on Friday and has trained on WIN Stadium on several occasions in preparation for the team’s clash with Juventus on August 10.

During that time the squad has also made countless community visits during a six-day visit to the region.

‘‘We are so happy here. We want to say thanks for all the hospitality that we have received from the people,’’ Gombau said.
‘‘This field is perfect. I hope to have a field like this in Adelaide.’’

The All-Stars will be able to the surface at WIN Stadium to the ultimate test when they face the Young Socceroos at the venue on Tuesday.

‘‘It is a good test for us,’’ Gombau said.

‘‘[On Monday] we worked tactically and [on Tuesday] we will work on that again. After that we get to see what happens after we work. If the players get this idea or not and it is important to have a game before.’’

Gombau hoped, albeit in a limited time frame, he could impart his footballing style and philosophy on the All-Stars squad.
‘‘I want to try and keep the ball. I want to try and play beautiful football, to attack and I want to try entertain the people who come to the stadium and watch the game,’’ he said.

The All-Stars welcomed the final and most high profile member of their squad on Monday when Alessandro Del Piero joined his teammates in Wollongong.

‘‘He is excited. He wants to have a good game because he is playing against his ex-team Juventus and we said to me that we need to try and win the game,’’ Gombau said.

Illawarra Mercury

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/wollongong-ready-to-have-aleague-says-adelaide-united-boss-josep-gombau-20140804-100dn1.html#ixzz39UiJ2Udx

Would be a terrible day, red bull are a cancer in football.