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The more i think about it, the more i think Qld will be a no no due to the State Government iron fist ruling on stadium deals. It's already crippled two clubs into extinction and has knocked the wind out of the Roar's finances annually.
Whilst I love WIN Stadium and think the potentials there with the Wolves i just cant see the FFA allowing them in due to "metrics".
Which leaves Melbourne & Sydney.
Melbourne realistically has two avaliable options for top tier football.
1. The already established South Melbourne which has it's own junior set up & good stadium deal & facilities. If the state government could upgrade Lakeside to 15k seats it would suffice to FFA/ACL standards. Unfortunately they should've put a second tier on the camera side of the ground which similar to NIB Stadium which wouldve given them improved viewing and better facilities.
2. Geelong. It's been documented that they have an AFL oval with ok viewing for Football configuration. The area also represents the Surf Coast/Melb TV as well as the growing western corridor. If they can tap into a similar stadium deal that the Cats have (breakeven point of 4k) then they almost instantly become sustainable which takes away any future headaches the FFA could have in future. The town is parochial and the media has been very receptive when Victory come to town.
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crimsoncrusoe wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Anyone else finding it a bit interesting and coincidental that clubs are changing their names to represent their cities. Palm Beach to Gold Coast City, South Coast to Wollongong, COE to Canberra United? Would all make good locations imo. I'm waiting for NQ, FNQ and SWQ to end this abortion that is vague geographic names. Nothing wrong with FnQ. FNQ Heat is a massively unlikable name when the city they play in is called Cairns.
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aussie pride wrote:The more i think about it, the more i think Qld will be a no no due to the State Government iron fist ruling on stadium deals. It's already crippled two clubs into extinction and has knocked the wind out of the Roar's finances annually.
Whilst I love WIN Stadium and think the potentials there with the Wolves i just cant see the FFA allowing them in due to "metrics".
Which leaves Melbourne & Sydney.
Melbourne realistically has two avaliable options for top tier football.
1. The already established South Melbourne which has it's own junior set up & good stadium deal & facilities. If the state government could upgrade Lakeside to 15k seats it would suffice to FFA/ACL standards. Unfortunately they should've put a second tier on the camera side of the ground which similar to NIB Stadium which wouldve given them improved viewing and better facilities.
2. Geelong. It's been documented that they have an AFL oval with ok viewing for Football configuration. The area also represents the Surf Coast/Melb TV as well as the growing western corridor. If they can tap into a similar stadium deal that the Cats have (breakeven point of 4k) then they almost instantly become sustainable which takes away any future headaches the FFA could have in future. The town is parochial and the media has been very receptive when Victory come to town.
I don't think south would get let in, Due to and this will open a can of worms I know. But with city trying to build a base, I don't think FFA will allow another Melbourne team in. I am aware of the ready to go argument for south. But FFA will protect city I would feel. Geelong possibly could get that team, They come out to watch victory but how many of those fans took the trip down the freeway and how many live in geelong that are already victory fans.
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crimsoncrusoe wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Anyone else finding it a bit interesting and coincidental that clubs are changing their names to represent their cities. Palm Beach to Gold Coast City, South Coast to Wollongong, COE to Canberra United? Would all make good locations imo. I'm waiting for NQ, FNQ and SWQ to end this abortion that is vague geographic names. Nothing wrong with FnQ. my grandfather's favourite joke: "i'm not a Queenslander, I'm a F'N Queenslander!!"
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The Dudist
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Cityslicker10 wrote:aussie pride wrote:The more i think about it, the more i think Qld will be a no no due to the State Government iron fist ruling on stadium deals. It's already crippled two clubs into extinction and has knocked the wind out of the Roar's finances annually.
Whilst I love WIN Stadium and think the potentials there with the Wolves i just cant see the FFA allowing them in due to "metrics".
Which leaves Melbourne & Sydney.
Melbourne realistically has two avaliable options for top tier football.
1. The already established South Melbourne which has it's own junior set up & good stadium deal & facilities. If the state government could upgrade Lakeside to 15k seats it would suffice to FFA/ACL standards. Unfortunately they should've put a second tier on the camera side of the ground which similar to NIB Stadium which wouldve given them improved viewing and better facilities.
2. Geelong. It's been documented that they have an AFL oval with ok viewing for Football configuration. The area also represents the Surf Coast/Melb TV as well as the growing western corridor. If they can tap into a similar stadium deal that the Cats have (breakeven point of 4k) then they almost instantly become sustainable which takes away any future headaches the FFA could have in future. The town is parochial and the media has been very receptive when Victory come to town.
I don't think south would get let in, Due to and this will open a can of worms I know. But with city trying to build a base, I don't think FFA will allow another Melbourne team in. I am aware of the ready to go argument for south. But FFA will protect city I would feel. Geelong possibly could get that team, They come out to watch victory but how many of those fans took the trip down the freeway and how many live in geelong that are already victory fans. Plenty of Victory fans here in Geelong. Many will not jump ship. Me included.
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MikeDude wrote:Cityslicker10 wrote:aussie pride wrote:The more i think about it, the more i think Qld will be a no no due to the State Government iron fist ruling on stadium deals. It's already crippled two clubs into extinction and has knocked the wind out of the Roar's finances annually.
Whilst I love WIN Stadium and think the potentials there with the Wolves i just cant see the FFA allowing them in due to "metrics".
Which leaves Melbourne & Sydney.
Melbourne realistically has two avaliable options for top tier football.
1. The already established South Melbourne which has it's own junior set up & good stadium deal & facilities. If the state government could upgrade Lakeside to 15k seats it would suffice to FFA/ACL standards. Unfortunately they should've put a second tier on the camera side of the ground which similar to NIB Stadium which wouldve given them improved viewing and better facilities.
2. Geelong. It's been documented that they have an AFL oval with ok viewing for Football configuration. The area also represents the Surf Coast/Melb TV as well as the growing western corridor. If they can tap into a similar stadium deal that the Cats have (breakeven point of 4k) then they almost instantly become sustainable which takes away any future headaches the FFA could have in future. The town is parochial and the media has been very receptive when Victory come to town.
I don't think south would get let in, Due to and this will open a can of worms I know. But with city trying to build a base, I don't think FFA will allow another Melbourne team in. I am aware of the ready to go argument for south. But FFA will protect city I would feel. Geelong possibly could get that team, They come out to watch victory but how many of those fans took the trip down the freeway and how many live in geelong that are already victory fans. Plenty of Victory fans here in Geelong. Many will not jump ship. Me included. Would you still attend and watch Geelong games if Victory were playing interstate?
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aussie pride wrote:MikeDude wrote:Cityslicker10 wrote:aussie pride wrote:The more i think about it, the more i think Qld will be a no no due to the State Government iron fist ruling on stadium deals. It's already crippled two clubs into extinction and has knocked the wind out of the Roar's finances annually.
Whilst I love WIN Stadium and think the potentials there with the Wolves i just cant see the FFA allowing them in due to "metrics".
Which leaves Melbourne & Sydney.
Melbourne realistically has two avaliable options for top tier football.
1. The already established South Melbourne which has it's own junior set up & good stadium deal & facilities. If the state government could upgrade Lakeside to 15k seats it would suffice to FFA/ACL standards. Unfortunately they should've put a second tier on the camera side of the ground which similar to NIB Stadium which wouldve given them improved viewing and better facilities.
2. Geelong. It's been documented that they have an AFL oval with ok viewing for Football configuration. The area also represents the Surf Coast/Melb TV as well as the growing western corridor. If they can tap into a similar stadium deal that the Cats have (breakeven point of 4k) then they almost instantly become sustainable which takes away any future headaches the FFA could have in future. The town is parochial and the media has been very receptive when Victory come to town.
I don't think south would get let in, Due to and this will open a can of worms I know. But with city trying to build a base, I don't think FFA will allow another Melbourne team in. I am aware of the ready to go argument for south. But FFA will protect city I would feel. Geelong possibly could get that team, They come out to watch victory but how many of those fans took the trip down the freeway and how many live in geelong that are already victory fans. Plenty of Victory fans here in Geelong. Many will not jump ship. Me included. Would you still attend and watch Geelong games if Victory were playing interstate? Good question. I only mentioned the original post about Geelong because catching the train home the other week victory had a game on. So many got off the Geelong train. Makes you wonder how many if any would jump
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aussie pride wrote:MikeDude wrote:Cityslicker10 wrote:aussie pride wrote:The more i think about it, the more i think Qld will be a no no due to the State Government iron fist ruling on stadium deals. It's already crippled two clubs into extinction and has knocked the wind out of the Roar's finances annually.
Whilst I love WIN Stadium and think the potentials there with the Wolves i just cant see the FFA allowing them in due to "metrics".
Which leaves Melbourne & Sydney.
Melbourne realistically has two avaliable options for top tier football.
1. The already established South Melbourne which has it's own junior set up & good stadium deal & facilities. If the state government could upgrade Lakeside to 15k seats it would suffice to FFA/ACL standards. Unfortunately they should've put a second tier on the camera side of the ground which similar to NIB Stadium which wouldve given them improved viewing and better facilities.
2. Geelong. It's been documented that they have an AFL oval with ok viewing for Football configuration. The area also represents the Surf Coast/Melb TV as well as the growing western corridor. If they can tap into a similar stadium deal that the Cats have (breakeven point of 4k) then they almost instantly become sustainable which takes away any future headaches the FFA could have in future. The town is parochial and the media has been very receptive when Victory come to town.
I don't think south would get let in, Due to and this will open a can of worms I know. But with city trying to build a base, I don't think FFA will allow another Melbourne team in. I am aware of the ready to go argument for south. But FFA will protect city I would feel. Geelong possibly could get that team, They come out to watch victory but how many of those fans took the trip down the freeway and how many live in geelong that are already victory fans. Plenty of Victory fans here in Geelong. Many will not jump ship. Me included. Would you still attend and watch Geelong games if Victory were playing interstate? I'd probably still go to watch A-League matches in general, but couldn't see myself becoming a member. It'd be a nice and convenient outing, but that's probably about it.
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melbourne_terrace wrote:
Yes but it's not happening quickly enough to make one league significantly better. There is still too much talent spread across the state leagues and this would not only consolidate that but also the talent currently within the NSWNPL and NPLV.
The best of Victorian players would be fed into teams like Knights, Souths, Heidelberg as well as picking up interstate players who are good enough to step up a level but not good enough to make A-League (Braedyn Crowley and ).
You might have an issue with this suggestion not including Queensland, which is understandable, but there is probably only 1 or 2 clubs in the state that probably afford to actually pay their way into such a comp. The other issue is that their participation would make the whole thing more expensive.
If the FFA went to clubs in NSW and Vic and said[size=6] "You can start a combined league if you pay for it."[/size], there is no doubt that they would would get at least 6 takers from each state and it would be off the ground in less than 12 months.
Is there any reason why this hasn't happened? Can even conference it for less away trips. For me this is the most important building block in a long term player development pathway. And makes the most sense. Use this league to build a foundation for a larger more geographically diverse league (though I'm not sold on the merits of such a thing but it is constantly pushed on these forums.) Take 5 nsw and 5 vic or something and run a league for 3 seasons. Then look to bring in QLD/SA/WA/wherever. And when you're done you have a 2nd div across multiple states and then you can probably end up with a somewhat national 2nd div and a 3rd div vic/nsw npl. I would love to know why this isn't being pushed more by the FFA/media/etc Edited by TimmyJ: 8/2/2016 10:33:40 PMEdited by TimmyJ: 8/2/2016 10:34:06 PM
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Always wanted to see a 2/3 conference second tier
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TheSelectFew wrote:Always wanted to see a 2/3 conference second tier Yeah a second tier organised into conferences with pro/rel from the state NPL sides is something I could get into.
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soil wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Always wanted to see a 2/3 conference second tier Yeah a second tier organised into conferences with pro/rel from the state NPL sides is something I could get into. Would love it! I'd definitely follow it. A bit of sponsorship would be good, and broadcasting one match a week would make me very happy.
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Quote:ON A NEW RECTANGULAR STADIUM
Cr Manning yesterday said “a fair amount of work” had been done on the proposal.
“We have a site we believe could be right, but we need to work with the bodies nearby,” he said.
Cr Manning said the multipurpose stadium would be built in stages. Stadium seating would be built on one side with mounds on three sides.
Mr Brooks said there was no business case for a stadium, and there was not a population large enough to support it, nor was there a major team or tenant. “We don’t need another loss-making venture paid for by the council,” he said. http://www.cairnspost.com.au/news/cairns/cairns-mayoral-candidates-debate-key-city-projects/news-story/f430116bf9da12b209b9a3b6b878a6bfAquis Cairns FC
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scott21 wrote:Quote:ON A NEW RECTANGULAR STADIUM
Cr Manning yesterday said “a fair amount of work” had been done on the proposal.
“We have a site we believe could be right, but we need to work with the bodies nearby,” he said.
Cr Manning said the multipurpose stadium would be built in stages. Stadium seating would be built on one side with mounds on three sides.
Mr Brooks said there was no business case for a stadium, and there was not a population large enough to support it, nor was there a major team or tenant. “We don’t need another loss-making venture paid for by the council,” he said. http://www.cairnspost.com.au/news/cairns/cairns-mayoral-candidates-debate-key-city-projects/news-story/f430116bf9da12b209b9a3b6b878a6bfAquis Cairns FC Biggest problem with having a stadium in/next to a resort (pending that it goes ahead, like the original plan), is that it doesn't mean the tenants of the hotel would start going to matches. It'd be a cool tourist attraction, and it maybe it would add a little to the attendances, but foreigners wouldn't necessarily start becoming fans. But then again, wasn't the owner of the resort a Chinese businessman? Perhaps if they partnered with a Chinese club it would work...
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scott21 wrote:Quote:ON A NEW RECTANGULAR STADIUM
Cr Manning yesterday said “a fair amount of work” had been done on the proposal.
“We have a site we believe could be right, but we need to work with the bodies nearby,” he said.
Cr Manning said the multipurpose stadium would be built in stages. Stadium seating would be built on one side with mounds on three sides.
Mr Brooks said there was no business case for a stadium, and there was not a population large enough to support it, nor was there a major team or tenant. “We don’t need another loss-making venture paid for by the council,” he said. http://www.cairnspost.com.au/news/cairns/cairns-mayoral-candidates-debate-key-city-projects/news-story/f430116bf9da12b209b9a3b6b878a6bfAquis Cairns FC Unless the team has Chinese investors pouring in millions it'll never happen. By the sound of that, there hasn't even been a whisper about a HAL/NRL team anyway.
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:lol: =d> Is that by you?
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paladisious wrote::lol: =d> Is that by you? Unfortunately yes
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scott21 wrote:paladisious wrote::lol: =d> Is that by you? Unfortunately yes You're going viral m80.
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Bay 93.9 Geelong wrote:[size=7]Mayor's 5-year soccer plan[/size]
Written by Rob McLennan.
Geelong could be home to a national soccer team within 5 years, with investors reportedly putting their hands up to build a dedicated stadium should a local team be admitted into the FFA.
Mayor Darryn Lyons has revealed he has had a number of meetings in recent weeks, not only with people he says are keen to get behind a top-level local soccer stadium, but also some of Australian soccer's most high-ranking officials.
Speaking during his regular Mayor On Air segment on Bay 93.9, Cr Lyons said he understood new licences would be up for grabs in the next three to five years, and he was determined to ensure Geelong would be "in the mix".
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paladisious wrote:Bay 93.9 Geelong wrote:[size=7]Mayor's 5-year soccer plan[/size]
Written by Rob McLennan.
Geelong could be home to a national soccer team within 5 years, with investors reportedly putting their hands up to build a dedicated stadium should a local team be admitted into the FFA.
Mayor Darryn Lyons has revealed he has had a number of meetings in recent weeks, not only with people he says are keen to get behind a top-level local soccer stadium, but also some of Australian soccer's most high-ranking officials.
Speaking during his regular Mayor On Air segment on Bay 93.9, Cr Lyons said he understood new licences would be up for grabs in the next three to five years, and he was determined to ensure Geelong would be "in the mix". ffa would be crazy not to look further into it. local government offering to have a stadium built. could be the first a-league club to run their own stadium.
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paladisious wrote:Bay 93.9 Geelong wrote:[size=7]Mayor's 5-year soccer plan[/size]
Written by Rob McLennan.
Geelong could be home to a national soccer team within 5 years, with investors reportedly putting their hands up to build a dedicated stadium should a local team be admitted into the FFA.
Mayor Darryn Lyons has revealed he has had a number of meetings in recent weeks, not only with people he says are keen to get behind a top-level local soccer stadium, but also some of Australian soccer's most high-ranking officials.
Speaking during his regular Mayor On Air segment on Bay 93.9, Cr Lyons said he understood new licences would be up for grabs in the next three to five years, and he was determined to ensure Geelong would be "in the mix". Geelong would be a perfect place for a football team for a national second division. I don't know if there are any established clubs that could make a step up so perhaps the best route for Geelong would be to establish a new club.
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Volrath2002 wrote:paladisious wrote:Bay 93.9 Geelong wrote:[size=7]Mayor's 5-year soccer plan[/size]
Written by Rob McLennan.
Geelong could be home to a national soccer team within 5 years, with investors reportedly putting their hands up to build a dedicated stadium should a local team be admitted into the FFA.
Mayor Darryn Lyons has revealed he has had a number of meetings in recent weeks, not only with people he says are keen to get behind a top-level local soccer stadium, but also some of Australian soccer's most high-ranking officials.
Speaking during his regular Mayor On Air segment on Bay 93.9, Cr Lyons said he understood new licences would be up for grabs in the next three to five years, and he was determined to ensure Geelong would be "in the mix". Geelong would be a perfect place for a football team for a national second division. I don't know if there are any established clubs that could make a step up so perhaps the best route for Geelong would be to establish a new club. Geelong would go straight into the A-League. Playing 6 out of 28-33 games against Melbourne opposition would boost attendances and ratings. Us Melbourne teams have been waiting a long time for an away trip that's only an hour up the highway :D
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Volrath2002 wrote:paladisious wrote:Bay 93.9 Geelong wrote:[size=7]Mayor's 5-year soccer plan[/size]
Written by Rob McLennan.
Geelong could be home to a national soccer team within 5 years, with investors reportedly putting their hands up to build a dedicated stadium should a local team be admitted into the FFA.
Mayor Darryn Lyons has revealed he has had a number of meetings in recent weeks, not only with people he says are keen to get behind a top-level local soccer stadium, but also some of Australian soccer's most high-ranking officials.
Speaking during his regular Mayor On Air segment on Bay 93.9, Cr Lyons said he understood new licences would be up for grabs in the next three to five years, and he was determined to ensure Geelong would be "in the mix". Geelong would be a perfect place for a football team for a national second division. I don't know if there are any established clubs that could make a step up so perhaps the best route for Geelong would be to establish a new club. Would be an entirely new entity - no Geelong clubs are big enough to expand to an A-League level.
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azzaMVFC wrote:Volrath2002 wrote:paladisious wrote:Bay 93.9 Geelong wrote:[size=7]Mayor's 5-year soccer plan[/size]
Written by Rob McLennan.
Geelong could be home to a national soccer team within 5 years, with investors reportedly putting their hands up to build a dedicated stadium should a local team be admitted into the FFA.
Mayor Darryn Lyons has revealed he has had a number of meetings in recent weeks, not only with people he says are keen to get behind a top-level local soccer stadium, but also some of Australian soccer's most high-ranking officials.
Speaking during his regular Mayor On Air segment on Bay 93.9, Cr Lyons said he understood new licences would be up for grabs in the next three to five years, and he was determined to ensure Geelong would be "in the mix". Geelong would be a perfect place for a football team for a national second division. I don't know if there are any established clubs that could make a step up so perhaps the best route for Geelong would be to establish a new club. Geelong would go straight into the A-League. Playing 6 out of 28-33 games against Melbourne opposition would boost attendances and ratings. Us Melbourne teams have been waiting a long time for an away trip that's only an hour up the highway :D An actual away trip in Victoria would be a nightmare for authorities. V-Line already hate us when we go down there.
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paladisious wrote:Bay 93.9 Geelong wrote:[size=7]Mayor's 5-year soccer plan[/size]
Written by Rob McLennan.
Geelong could be home to a national soccer team within 5 years, with investors reportedly putting their hands up to build a dedicated stadium should a local team be admitted into the FFA.
Mayor Darryn Lyons has revealed he has had a number of meetings in recent weeks, not only with people he says are keen to get behind a top-level local soccer stadium, but also some of Australian soccer's most high-ranking officials.
Speaking during his regular Mayor On Air segment on Bay 93.9, Cr Lyons said he understood new licences would be up for grabs in the next three to five years, and he was determined to ensure Geelong would be "in the mix". This is the way to go about it. A 10-12k seated stadium with proper parking or close to a train station would be perfect . Build it and they will come. This is what cities like Hobart etc need to explore....forget existing oval grounds...it just won't work
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melbourne_terrace wrote:azzaMVFC wrote:Volrath2002 wrote:paladisious wrote:Bay 93.9 Geelong wrote:[size=7]Mayor's 5-year soccer plan[/size]
Written by Rob McLennan.
Geelong could be home to a national soccer team within 5 years, with investors reportedly putting their hands up to build a dedicated stadium should a local team be admitted into the FFA.
Mayor Darryn Lyons has revealed he has had a number of meetings in recent weeks, not only with people he says are keen to get behind a top-level local soccer stadium, but also some of Australian soccer's most high-ranking officials.
Speaking during his regular Mayor On Air segment on Bay 93.9, Cr Lyons said he understood new licences would be up for grabs in the next three to five years, and he was determined to ensure Geelong would be "in the mix". Geelong would be a perfect place for a football team for a national second division. I don't know if there are any established clubs that could make a step up so perhaps the best route for Geelong would be to establish a new club. Geelong would go straight into the A-League. Playing 6 out of 28-33 games against Melbourne opposition would boost attendances and ratings. Us Melbourne teams have been waiting a long time for an away trip that's only an hour up the highway :D An actual away trip in Victoria would be a nightmare for authorities. V-Line already hate us when we go down there. yeah its a real bitch driving down the Princes Freeway from Melbourne to Geelong. Just hire a car next time.
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Soft News wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:azzaMVFC wrote:Volrath2002 wrote:paladisious wrote:Bay 93.9 Geelong wrote:[size=7]Mayor's 5-year soccer plan[/size]
Written by Rob McLennan.
Geelong could be home to a national soccer team within 5 years, with investors reportedly putting their hands up to build a dedicated stadium should a local team be admitted into the FFA.
Mayor Darryn Lyons has revealed he has had a number of meetings in recent weeks, not only with people he says are keen to get behind a top-level local soccer stadium, but also some of Australian soccer's most high-ranking officials.
Speaking during his regular Mayor On Air segment on Bay 93.9, Cr Lyons said he understood new licences would be up for grabs in the next three to five years, and he was determined to ensure Geelong would be "in the mix". Geelong would be a perfect place for a football team for a national second division. I don't know if there are any established clubs that could make a step up so perhaps the best route for Geelong would be to establish a new club. Geelong would go straight into the A-League. Playing 6 out of 28-33 games against Melbourne opposition would boost attendances and ratings. Us Melbourne teams have been waiting a long time for an away trip that's only an hour up the highway :D An actual away trip in Victoria would be a nightmare for authorities. V-Line already hate us when we go down there. yeah its a real bitch driving down the Princes Freeway from Melbourne to Geelong. Just hire a car next time. I'd love a team in Geelong, purely for the fact that it'll be very close for me. [-o<
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MikeDude wrote:Soft News wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:azzaMVFC wrote:Volrath2002 wrote:paladisious wrote:Bay 93.9 Geelong wrote:[size=7]Mayor's 5-year soccer plan[/size]
Written by Rob McLennan.
Geelong could be home to a national soccer team within 5 years, with investors reportedly putting their hands up to build a dedicated stadium should a local team be admitted into the FFA.
Mayor Darryn Lyons has revealed he has had a number of meetings in recent weeks, not only with people he says are keen to get behind a top-level local soccer stadium, but also some of Australian soccer's most high-ranking officials.
Speaking during his regular Mayor On Air segment on Bay 93.9, Cr Lyons said he understood new licences would be up for grabs in the next three to five years, and he was determined to ensure Geelong would be "in the mix". Geelong would be a perfect place for a football team for a national second division. I don't know if there are any established clubs that could make a step up so perhaps the best route for Geelong would be to establish a new club. Geelong would go straight into the A-League. Playing 6 out of 28-33 games against Melbourne opposition would boost attendances and ratings. Us Melbourne teams have been waiting a long time for an away trip that's only an hour up the highway :D An actual away trip in Victoria would be a nightmare for authorities. V-Line already hate us when we go down there. yeah its a real bitch driving down the Princes Freeway from Melbourne to Geelong. Just hire a car next time. I'd love a team in Geelong, purely for the fact that it'll be very close for me. [-o< Not going to lie, whenever the Vuck play in Geelong it's always nice to be home within 10 minutes instead of the usual hour plus it takes now lol.
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MikeDude wrote:aussie pride wrote:MikeDude wrote:Cityslicker10 wrote:aussie pride wrote:The more i think about it, the more i think Qld will be a no no due to the State Government iron fist ruling on stadium deals. It's already crippled two clubs into extinction and has knocked the wind out of the Roar's finances annually.
Whilst I love WIN Stadium and think the potentials there with the Wolves i just cant see the FFA allowing them in due to "metrics".
Which leaves Melbourne & Sydney.
Melbourne realistically has two avaliable options for top tier football.
1. The already established South Melbourne which has it's own junior set up & good stadium deal & facilities. If the state government could upgrade Lakeside to 15k seats it would suffice to FFA/ACL standards. Unfortunately they should've put a second tier on the camera side of the ground which similar to NIB Stadium which wouldve given them improved viewing and better facilities.
2. Geelong. It's been documented that they have an AFL oval with ok viewing for Football configuration. The area also represents the Surf Coast/Melb TV as well as the growing western corridor. If they can tap into a similar stadium deal that the Cats have (breakeven point of 4k) then they almost instantly become sustainable which takes away any future headaches the FFA could have in future. The town is parochial and the media has been very receptive when Victory come to town.
I don't think south would get let in, Due to and this will open a can of worms I know. But with city trying to build a base, I don't think FFA will allow another Melbourne team in. I am aware of the ready to go argument for south. But FFA will protect city I would feel. Geelong possibly could get that team, They come out to watch victory but how many of those fans took the trip down the freeway and how many live in geelong that are already victory fans. Plenty of Victory fans here in Geelong. Many will not jump ship. Me included. Would you still attend and watch Geelong games if Victory were playing interstate? I'd probably still go to watch A-League matches in general, but couldn't see myself becoming a member. It'd be a nice and convenient outing, but that's probably about it. IF that's a common theme I not sure if Geelong would work...
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