Antarctic Ice Growing

Curve Ball

How so?

The article confirms all previous assumptions about climate change and states that the increase in snow basically means the square root of fuck all

Antarctic Ice Growing

Curve Ball

This has been Australia’s hottest October on record. Barring an (extremely unlikely) cold snap, it will also be the hottest October for Victoria, and for Melbourne. And the record-breaking temperatures are at least six times more likely thanks to human-induced global warming...

https://theconversation.com/its-been-australias-hottest-ever-october-and-thats-no-coincidence-49941

Warming of 1.5 to 2 degrees Celsius above current levels could lead to "unstoppable" sea level rise that would last for thousands of years, according to a new model of Antarctic ice sheets.

The new model, published today in Nature, shows that such temperatures would result in 80 to 85 per cent loss of major Antarctic ice shelves, something that is possible by the end of the century under existing IPCC scenarios.

Collapse of the ice shelves would trigger a rapid melt of the Antarctic ice sheets, releasing vast amounts of Earth's freshwater stores into the ocean, said the researchers.

By 2100 this would add up to 40 centimetres to sea levels, melt rate would continue to accelerate until 2300, and sea levels would continue to rise after that for thousands of years......
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-15/antarctic-ice-shelf-sea-level-rise-warning/6853780

his work has been debunked already and he's a whacko conspiracy theorist
https://watchingthedeniers.wordpress.com/climate-sceptic-conspiracies/profile-dr-david-evans/

and here he's ripped apart ...
http://www.skepticalscience.com/david-evans-understanding-goes-cold.html

Edited by trident: 6/10/2015 04:58:25 PM

I thought Ricey was perma-banned? Rags doesnt seem like him. :-k

One thing I notice about right wingers is the stark contrast in the dearth of evidence and structured logic to support a position on a particular issue.
Here is some more research that might suggest why:

One thing I notice about right wingers is the stark contrast in the dearth of evidence and structured logic to support a position on a particular issue.
Here is some more research that might suggest why:



Edited by Murdoch Rags Ltd: 6/10/2015 05:27:33 PM

You are the full definition of a leftard.

You continue to formulate fanciful assumptions about people you clearly have no idea about. Good work Ricey!

:lol:

Low-Effort Thought Promotes Political Conservatism

Abstract
The authors test the hypothesis that low-effort thought promotes political conservatism. In Study 1, alcohol intoxication was measured among bar patrons; as blood alcohol level increased, so did political conservatism (controlling for sex, education, and political identification). In Study 2, participants under cognitive load reported more conservative attitudes than their no-load counterparts. In Study 3, time pressure increased participants’ endorsement of conservative terms. In Study 4, participants considering political terms in a cursory manner endorsed conservative terms more than those asked to cogitate; an indicator of effortful thought (recognition memory) partially mediated the relationship between processing effort and conservatism. Together these data suggest that political conservatism may be a process consequence of low-effort thought; when effortful, deliberate thought is disengaged, endorsement of conservative ideology increases.
http://psp.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/03/16/0146167212439213.abstract

And the all time record set yesterday, is now broken today

My guess is that because right wingers have been shown in research to be more fearful people (both in psychological & neuroscientific research), when it comes to global warming, the reason right wingers again comprise the bulk of global warming denial, is because their fear mechanism response is denial, as it is too overwhelming for them otherwise.

What's this about some Perth Engineer dude who discovered a mathematical based reason that climate change is false?

-PB

What's this about some Perth Engineer dude who discovered a mathematical based reason that climate change is false?

-PB

:lol: 1 hot week and it's the bloody apocalypse for you tree huggers :lol:

All time record temperature for the first week of October in Melbourne today.
Tomorrow, the record set today is going to be broken.
So sad what is happening to the planet - 'Boiling a frog'

A big positive side effect of the increase in global warming awareness, propagated due to the obfuscation by vested interests in maintaining the polluting status quo, is that it has highlighted peer reviewed science & evidence. The public has become more educated on what is academia & peer reviewed science & that any two-bit crank can run a blog site with distortions & lies. Of course, that doesn't stop people choosing to continue being wilfully ignorant, but the concept of peer reviewed science is more ubiquitous nonetheless.

lol @ that source

A small bank in Chicago called SHOREBANK almost went bankrupt during the recession. The bank made a profit on its foreign micro-loans (see below) but had lost money in sub-prime mortgages in the US. It was facing likely closure by federal regulators. However, because the bank's executives were well connected with members of the Obama Administration, a private rescue bailout was arranged. The bank's employees had donated money to Obama's Senate campaign. In other words, ShoreBank was too politically connected to be allowed to go under.

ShoreBank survived and invested in many "green" businesses such as solar panel manufacturing. In fact, the bank was mentioned in one of Obama's speeches during his election campaign because it subjected new business borrowers to Eco-litmus tests.

Prior to becoming President, Obama sat on the board of the JOYCE FOUNDATION, a liberal charity. This foundation was originally established by Joyce Kean's family which had accumulated millions of dollars in the lumber industry. It mostly gave funds to hospitals but after her death in 1972, the foundation was taken over by radical environmentalists and social justice extremists.

This JOYCE FOUNDATION, which is rumored to have assets of 8 billion dollars, has now set up and funded, with a few partners, something called the CHICAGO CLIMATE EXCHANGE, known as CXX. It will be the exchange (like the Chicago Grain Futures Market for agriculture) where Environmental Carbon Credits are traded.

Under Obama's new bill, businesses in the future will be assessed a tax on how much CO2 they produce (their Carbon Footprint) or in other words how much they add to global warming. If a company produces less CO2 than their allotted measured limit, they earn a Carbon Credit. This Carbon Credit can be traded on the CXX exchange. Another company, which has gone over their CO2 limit, can buy the Credit and "reduce" their footprint and tax liability. It will be like trading shares on Wall Street.

Well, it was the same JOYCE FOUNDATION, along with some other private partners and Wall Street firms that funded the bailout of ShoreBank. The foundation is now one of the major shareholders. The bank has now been designated to be the "banking arm" of the CHICAGO CLIMATE EXCHANGE (CXX). In addition, Goldman Sachs has been contracted to run the investment trading floor of the exchange.

Al Gore was one of the smaller partners to originally help fund the CHICAGO CLIMATE EXCHANGE. He also founded a company called Generation Investment Management (GIM) and registered it in London, England. GIM has close links to the UK-based Climate Exchange PLC, a holding company listed on the London Stock Exchange. This company trades Carbon Credits in Europe (just like CXX will do here) and its floor is run by Goldman Sachs. Along with Gore, the other co-founder of GIM is Hank Paulson, the former US Treasury Secretary and former CEO of Goldman Sachs. His wife, Wendy, graduated from and is presently a Trustee of Wellesley College. Yes, the same college that Hillary Clinton and Jan Piercy, a co-founder of Shorebank attended. (They are all friends).

If the bill passes, it is estimated that over 10 TRILLION dollars each year will be traded on the CXX exchange. At a commission rate of only 4 percent, the exchange would earn close to 400 billion dollars to split between its owners, all Obama cronies. At a 2 percent rate, Goldman Sachs would also rake in 200 billion dollars each year.

But don't forget SHOREBANK. With 10 trillion dollars flowing though its accounts, the bank will earn close to 40 billion dollars in interest each year for its owners (more Obama cronies), without even breaking a sweat.

It is estimated Al Gore alone will probably rake in 15 billion dollars just in the first year. Of course, Obama's "commissions" will be held in trust for him at the Joyce Foundation. They are estimated to be over 8 billion dollars by the time he leaves office in 2013, if the bill passes this year. Of course, these commissions will continue to be paid for the rest of his life.

Some financial experts think this will be the largest "scam" or "legal heist" in world history. Obama's cronies make the Mafia look like rank amateurs. They will make Bernie Madoff's fraud look like penny ante stuff.

Shell's global chief executive says an effective carbon price is needed to tackle climate change, whether through a trading or tax system.

Speaking exclusively to ABC TV's The Business, Ben van Beurden said a price on carbon was necessary to discourage pollution.

"Putting, in one form or another, a real, clear price on carbon that compels people to act with rational economic actions, I think is something that we need," he told presenter Ticky Fullerton.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-02/shell-ceo-says-carbon-price-needed-to-tackle-climate-change/6824510

I remember hearing some science bloke suggesting that if oceans warm up, more vapour means more rain which was passed off as a win for humanity. Maybe he was part of the magical 3%?