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aufc_ole wrote:Waz wrote:Atlas wrote:FullBack4 wrote:MikeDude wrote:FullBack4 wrote:I'd say flat to down (slightly) unless there's a big improvement in marketing, by club:
Adelaide United: - same Brisbane Roar: - down, fans are really unhappy at the moment Central Coast Mariners: -same but only just Melbourne City: - up, slightly Melbourne Victory: - same Newcastle Jets: -same Perth Glory : up slightly Sydney FC: down Wellington Phoenix: same Western Sydney Wanderers: up slightly
But if Victory and Wanderers knock it out of the park then all bets are off, numbers will rise; same with Roar if they do get new (and better) owners then they should rise to 9-10k but until nearer the season start I'd be very cautious on these numbers, its a tough economy as well Hard to imagine Brisbane being less than last year. But I'm out of the loop there, so the unrest may just be that bad. Perhaps the FFA will take them back before the season kicks off. Not actually that close myself but various forums you read are not good reading, lots of disillusioned fans threatening not to renew in protest, even the new MD is getting flogged on the club web pages. if nothing changes I think membership will halve again, and if the FFA takes over it'll be just as bad - plenty of resentment towards the FFA's handling of a very poor situation for three years. That's where Aussie Rules fans differ so much from football fans, they stick with their club/game no matter what. Far too much politics in football instead of putting the game first and foremost. Yeah right, you can see the Brisbane Lions fans sticking by their club every home game lol Rare exception to the rule. Essendon for example average over 30k despite barely having a team A "rare exception" is it? It proves the original comment to be flawed though doesn't it! and soccer v AFL is a poor/unfair comparison, both the league and clubs are run on a shoestring marketing and promotion budget and rarely get FTA TV media profile unlike AFL and NRL. There's no doubt AFL is top dog in memberships-attendance but after ten years the FFA have taken average attendances for the national soccer competition from 3k to 13k, we'll take that as a win :) Roars unique ownership struggles don't deserve to be aired on this thread but enough to say after a succession of poor owners and three years of being lied to and misled by the current owners the fans are trying to force change in one of the few ways they can, membership boycots; membership down from 12,500 to 5,000 was designed to send a message last year (but no one listened, not the owners, not the FFA, and the BS started again 3 months ago) but average crowds went up to nearly 14k. What happens next is dependent on the ownership situation, few clubs in any vide would survive unscathed with owners treating fans do disrespectfully over such a sustained period.
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Waz wrote:Atlas wrote:FullBack4 wrote:MikeDude wrote:FullBack4 wrote:I'd say flat to down (slightly) unless there's a big improvement in marketing, by club:
Adelaide United: - same Brisbane Roar: - down, fans are really unhappy at the moment Central Coast Mariners: -same but only just Melbourne City: - up, slightly Melbourne Victory: - same Newcastle Jets: -same Perth Glory : up slightly Sydney FC: down Wellington Phoenix: same Western Sydney Wanderers: up slightly
But if Victory and Wanderers knock it out of the park then all bets are off, numbers will rise; same with Roar if they do get new (and better) owners then they should rise to 9-10k but until nearer the season start I'd be very cautious on these numbers, its a tough economy as well Hard to imagine Brisbane being less than last year. But I'm out of the loop there, so the unrest may just be that bad. Perhaps the FFA will take them back before the season kicks off. Not actually that close myself but various forums you read are not good reading, lots of disillusioned fans threatening not to renew in protest, even the new MD is getting flogged on the club web pages. if nothing changes I think membership will halve again, and if the FFA takes over it'll be just as bad - plenty of resentment towards the FFA's handling of a very poor situation for three years. That's where Aussie Rules fans differ so much from football fans, they stick with their club/game no matter what. Far too much politics in football instead of putting the game first and foremost. Yeah right, you can see the Brisbane Lions fans sticking by their club every home game lol pretty much THIS LoL - by all accounts "away" supporters outnumber home supporters by 2 to 1 at Lions games, which in a 15k crowd shows where they're at. Lions have also been run poorly so again its not a surprise, but all 4 footballing codes have had good crowd averages when they've been well run and (in the case of NRL, Union, AFL) excellent crowd averages over 30k with success, even Roars best average of 19k is not too shabby. Sports fans aren't necessarily fickle but keep them in the dark and feed them sh!t and they will stay away, and in all codes - as the Reds and Lions and proving in this current season. Maybe its just a Brisbane thing?
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End of June last year glory announced 1500 members.
So far we are at 2040 members.
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Waz
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perthjay85 wrote:End of June last year glory announced 1500 members.
So far we are at 2040 members. Perth have undergone something of a transformation on and off the pitch - do you recon they can crack 10k members this year?
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The Dudist
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Atlas wrote:FullBack4 wrote:MikeDude wrote:FullBack4 wrote:I'd say flat to down (slightly) unless there's a big improvement in marketing, by club:
Adelaide United: - same Brisbane Roar: - down, fans are really unhappy at the moment Central Coast Mariners: -same but only just Melbourne City: - up, slightly Melbourne Victory: - same Newcastle Jets: -same Perth Glory : up slightly Sydney FC: down Wellington Phoenix: same Western Sydney Wanderers: up slightly
But if Victory and Wanderers knock it out of the park then all bets are off, numbers will rise; same with Roar if they do get new (and better) owners then they should rise to 9-10k but until nearer the season start I'd be very cautious on these numbers, its a tough economy as well Hard to imagine Brisbane being less than last year. But I'm out of the loop there, so the unrest may just be that bad. Perhaps the FFA will take them back before the season kicks off. Not actually that close myself but various forums you read are not good reading, lots of disillusioned fans threatening not to renew in protest, even the new MD is getting flogged on the club web pages. if nothing changes I think membership will halve again, and if the FFA takes over it'll be just as bad - plenty of resentment towards the FFA's handling of a very poor situation for three years. That's where Aussie Rules fans differ so much from football fans, they stick with their club/game no matter what. Far too much politics in football instead of putting the game first and foremost. No loyalty from football fans, eh? You should read the history of AFC Wimbledon.
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Waz wrote:perthjay85 wrote:End of June last year glory announced 1500 members.
So far we are at 2040 members. Perth have undergone something of a transformation on and off the pitch - do you recon they can crack 10k members this year? I doubt 10k members. Glory are aiming for 8.5k. With a good start to the season i can see realistically 9k members max. But I'm hoping crowds to start at close to 10k and hopefully increase.
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Atlas wrote:FullBack4 wrote:MikeDude wrote:FullBack4 wrote:I'd say flat to down (slightly) unless there's a big improvement in marketing, by club:
Adelaide United: - same Brisbane Roar: - down, fans are really unhappy at the moment Central Coast Mariners: -same but only just Melbourne City: - up, slightly Melbourne Victory: - same Newcastle Jets: -same Perth Glory : up slightly Sydney FC: down Wellington Phoenix: same Western Sydney Wanderers: up slightly
But if Victory and Wanderers knock it out of the park then all bets are off, numbers will rise; same with Roar if they do get new (and better) owners then they should rise to 9-10k but until nearer the season start I'd be very cautious on these numbers, its a tough economy as well Hard to imagine Brisbane being less than last year. But I'm out of the loop there, so the unrest may just be that bad. Perhaps the FFA will take them back before the season kicks off. Not actually that close myself but various forums you read are not good reading, lots of disillusioned fans threatening not to renew in protest, even the new MD is getting flogged on the club web pages. if nothing changes I think membership will halve again, and if the FFA takes over it'll be just as bad - plenty of resentment towards the FFA's handling of a very poor situation for three years. That's where Aussie Rules fans differ so much from football fans, they stick with their club/game no matter what. Far too much politics in football instead of putting the game first and foremost. Collingwood fans might disagree. Lowest crowd since the 2nd world war.
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Adelaide - 10k (up) Brisbane - 6k (up) 8k if ownership sorted CCM - 5k (down) why would any new members sign up? Plenty of reasons to not renew. City - 11k (up) 13k with Cahill only, 14k with a lampard / pirlo type marquee only, 16k with both Victory - 26k (down) 28k with decent named marquee Jets - 10k (up) new owners, optimism, if people renewed last year then no reason why not this year + new members on optimism Perth - 10k (up) needless to speak about their fast growing optimism and favoritism. The squad strength, home grown players, Castro resigned, fillipolous doing all the right things, stability with sage and Lowe. If they sign another marquee / Cahill 12k Sydney 11k (down) 15k with a big name marquee Phoneux 6k (up) stronger squad + you'd expect a bigger marketing budget in light of their situation and KPI's WSW 20k (up) natural increase due to stadium increase. Waiting list becomes members plus extra 1k or so.
Total 115k.
With a room to grow of up to a further 15k based on future marquee announcements / sale of Brisbane roar.
So quite a positive outlook for mine!
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Tambo wrote:Adelaide - 10k (up) Brisbane - 6k (up) 8k if ownership sorted CCM - 5k (down) why would any new members sign up? Plenty of reasons to not renew. City - 11k (up) 13k with Cahill only, 14k with a lampard / pirlo type marquee only, 16k with both Victory - 26k (down) 28k with decent named marquee Jets - 10k (up) new owners, optimism, if people renewed last year then no reason why not this year + new members on optimism Perth - 10k (up) needless to speak about their fast growing optimism and favoritism. The squad strength, home grown players, Castro resigned, fillipolous doing all the right things, stability with sage and Lowe. If they sign another marquee / Cahill 12k Sydney 11k (down) 15k with a big name marquee Phoneux 6k (up) stronger squad + you'd expect a bigger marketing budget in light of their situation and KPI's WSW 20k (up) natural increase due to stadium increase. Waiting list becomes members plus extra 1k or so.
Total 115k.
With a room to grow of up to a further 15k based on future marquee announcements / sale of Brisbane roar.
So quite a positive outlook for mine! I'd be thrilled with 10 k. Think we might just hit the club's target of 8500 or maybe be just shy of it, depending on how we do early in the season . Would be stoked with 10k+ though. Would like the A-League website/FFA to do another membership drive like last year. Liked seeing a target goal with an updated membership count for all clubs together in one list.
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AU just tweeted they've passed 5,000 members - good start
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Waz wrote:AU just tweeted they've passed 5,000 members - good start Almost matched their levels from 2013/14. That's a definite sign of growth.
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Positive news from most clubs. Downers are (my) Roar, CCM and Sydney. Should see overall an increase on 2015/16.
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great start from victory, Memberships start for the Wanderers on the 14th i think
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Won't be renewing mine. :)
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Swarth wrote:great start from victory, Memberships start for the Wanderers on the 14th i think my mistake the 19th
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:Won't be renewing mine. :) What would change your mind? You have been very positive in years gone by.
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:Won't be renewing mine. :) Your club may not be renewing theirs either. :)
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Adelaide's will probably look favourable if compared against previous seasons at the same time coz they really hit re-signing members hard and early this year. I could be wrong but the cut-off to get my same seat back this year felt insanely early. Trying to capitalise on the GF win I guess.
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Good on the Vuck. Keep it up! (Says that guy who doesn't have a membership).
I'm going OS for most of this summer, but I'm keen to get my first membership next season ;)
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Wanderers over 4k in front of same time last year. Auto renewals would be a big reason but still impressive.
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Multibet wrote:Wanderers over 4k in front of same time last year. Auto renewals would be a big reason but still impressive. huge improvement i know a lot of them are auto renewals but i know a lot of those didnt go through considering we got over 12k in one day even with auto renewals its still impressive i think we are lucky because we have more of a membership culture than most other clubs even when we get our big stadium because we were forced to have memberships i think people will more likely to stay members than if we had a big stadium to start with
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