While the Sydney crowd was embarrassing given our results and style of play this season, what were you all expecting?

Friday night games have never resulted in big crowds for us. Have you ever tried driving in Sydney during peak hour on a Friday evening?

Heavy rain on various occasions throughout the day with an initial forecast for storms in the night. Have you ever sat in the SFS in the rain? Most of the seats aren't covered by the roof. Families see that forecast and make an early call to stay in and watch in on TV.

Around 30,000 Sydney fans attended last Saturday. Another home game 6 days later is always going to tank, as illustrated by Davo in a number of games in various cities throughout the season. There is usually a hang over in crowd numbers after each derby in particular.

Overall, it is a shame that more people have not been in attendance to experience what we have achieved so far this season. But, in perspective, excluding derbies:
Sydney FC average crowd = 14,858
Wanderers average crowd = 13,217
Excluding Victory whose average has only been in competition with itself since about Season 2, the only team that should be talking shit about Sydney's crowds is Brisbane. Excellent average of 15,705. You get 2,500 more at every game than the mighty WSW whose "support" the media always seems to crow about.

Also leaving out Derbys because it does not suit you is week as piss.

Pot calling kettle black no?

Wanderers also have another home derby which will put us at record crowds for our clubs short history, heck we might even take victory this year which would be a first i think.

Crowd - WSW vs Jets = 9477

Good to see the Sydney FC fans return to their original club. No loyalty in Sydney. 

Its funny you smurphs all a sudden in 2016-17 are leaving out derbys when making crowd comparisons, when previous 3 years will include them like your life depended on it.

The first year WSW are not capped by stadium capacity and you can see the results. We got 1 more derby to come, you going to show up or is cyclonic conditions/monsoon going to stop you this time? haha

RIP Cameraman. Heroically died in the sydney cyclone trying to defend FC's integrity. Sadly, he died in vein.

Its funny you smurphs all a sudden in 2016-17 are leaving out derbys when making crowd comparisons, when previous 3 years will include them like your life depended on it.

The first year WSW are not capped by stadium capacity and you can see the results. We got 1 more derby to come, you going to show up or is cyclonic conditions/monsoon going to stop you this time? haha

Do you actually believe the shit you say, or is it tongue in cheek? You still can't pull a decent crowd even when you are not capped by stadium capacity. The derby crowd had little to do with you suddenly having stadium capacity, the 7 or 8 games which followed it are the true indicator, and the results are poor. You never really even had capacity issues at Parra pulling 11-14k crowds every week. And I've never had a problem with derbies being excluded from the attendance count comparisons because we have had a higher non-derby average attendance than you every year except one, our shit sandwich of a year last year where you finished 2nd/2nd.

While there's a fair bit of banter between fans and quite a bit of pleasure taken by opposing fans the reality is there's only Victory that can be happy with their attendances. 

If you're going to dick-measure, Per Capita should be the test of attendance surely ?

No. Per capita is a shit argument.

So just because Welly get 7k every week, that should be OK because they have a smaller population? No. It's a straw man argument. They keep getting these crowds and they'll be gone.

Not sure that's true.  That's really just the impression because they are the biggest.

MV was the only Team in the whole state for the first 5 years, still only 2 in Victoria.
The City of Melbourne, with it's 'sports mad' population of over 4 million.

If you're going to dick-measure, Per Capita should be the test of attendance surely ?

So if my suburb of 2000 peiople has 50 people show up to watch Sunday park football, you are telling me that my lil local club is doing better than A-league clubs? Because you know per capita and all? It's a flawed measurement. 

As cities get larger and larger, there will ALWAYS be a drop off. You would never be able to sustain the per capita rate. The Chinese Super league have managed to grow their crowds from 13,400 back in 2008 to 24,100 in 2016. Now if you were to do it per capita, the whole of the csl would be below Wellington Phoenix. Now are you going to tell me that Guanghzou Evergrande (who avg 45k) is doing worse than Wellington Phoenix just because per capita more go to a wellington game? Yeah ok sure... Wellington are doing a much better job at embracing the community then..

We do realize that Pirtek is being rebuilt and we are playing at an oval in Homebush right? 

Capacity issues arise when you cannot sell any more tickets to the game. Has nothing to do with 14k being at the game.

Now 19k members, imagine having 1k tickets available to the general public all year round in a 20k Pirtek stadium?

Victory-SYD - 32,000
Jets/City - 10,000
CCM/Glory - 7,500
Roar/WSW - 14,000
Reds/Welly - 9,000

Total = 72.5k

Roar have got 3 home games in six days plus I think it's up against the BBL on Saturday night so 15k may be optimistic.

The BBL final is in Perth.

The BBL final is in Perth.