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+xWatched the use of the VAR on overseas games results are not much different. So we're not unique. Dick heads are universal as well
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‘VAR has made 16-18 errors’ By Football Italia staff VAR has made ’16-18’ errors in Serie A this season, according to referee designator Nicola Rizzoli. VAR was introduced to the Italian top flight at the beginning of the season, but the technology has only caused confusion over when it is consulted and how the footage is interpreted. “Barring this matchday, in which I hope there haven’t been any, [VAR] has made 16-18 errors throughout the season,” Rizzoli told Sky Sport Italia. “Technology doesn’t make you immune to mistakes, it’s impossible. The objective is to reduce the number of errors. “We’re following a very strict, international protocol, which is to eliminate the discretion of incidents as much as possible. “Technology must intervene in key situations. Let’s say that the referee, talking to the VAR, says, ‘for me, the defender touched the ball, it’s not a penalty’, while the VAR replies, ‘no, you were wrong, he didn’t touch it, go and review it.’ “That’s a clear example of when reviews are needed. We must refer to an international protocol, one on a global scale. “We’re also wired up in a way that only what happens on the pitch is judged.”
https://www.football-italia.net/119660/var-has-made-16-18-errors
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Has to go down as one of the biggest blunders in Australian football history tonight, it wasn’t as if it was penalty call that’s open to interpretation, about as clear cut decision as you can possibly get and they botched it.
The VAR needs to go as they refuse to use it when the games that have the most on the line come around, tonight’s goal would have received backlash no matter what but if it was human error in real time you can cop that, when a muppet upstairs though can’t make that decision with the benefit of a replay then what’s the point?
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2 MONTHS AGO 😳 ⬇️ Spartan said
Absolutely shocking. This must be addressed b4 a final start tbh. At least Fox visited it at half time but no one was really willing to come out and say there had been a old fashion up country F#&k up.
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Yes. VAR is optional.
If there is a question mark it’s whether ffa commited to a minimum trial period. But otherwise, just like the EPL, we can opt out.
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Meanwhile in Italy. http://www.insideworldfootball.com/2018/05/03/roma-ruins-proud-pallotta-bemoans-lack-var-champions-league/3rd May 2018
May 3 – Roma president James Pallotta says it will be an “absolute joke” if video assistant referees are not introduced in the Champions League after his side were cruelly knocked out by Liverpool 7-6 on aggregate in the semi-finals on Wednesday.
Jurgen Klopp’s side have certainly have had their fair share of luck with the officiating during their run to the final and may well have been eliminated – first by Manchester City, then Roma – had the VAR system been in use. On another day many of the crucial decisions could have gone against Liverpool.
In fact both finalists in Kiev later this month have had their fair share of good fortune.
Holders Real Madrid, nowhere near the best team in the competition this season, have reached the final despite being beaten by Tottenham in the group stage and being second best in both legs of their semi-final against Bayern Munich, coming through only because of profligate finishing by the Germans. And who can forget Real’s controversial stoppage-time penalty that broke the hearts of Juventus in the quarters?
But all Pallotta understandably wants to focus on is how his team so nearly caused another gigantic upset against Liverpool having wiped out a similar three-goal first-leg deficit against Barcelona in the quarters.
Pallotta felt his side should have been awarded two penalties. “I know it is difficult to ref but it is really embarrassing that we lose on aggregate like that,” he said. “You just can’t let stuff like this happen.”
Edin Dzeko was brought down by Liverpool goalkeeper Loris Karius after the interval but appeared to be wrongly ruled offside. And minutes later Trent Alexander-Arnold handled the ball in the area which denied a clear goalscoring opportunity for the hosts.
“You can all look at it yourself. In the 49th minute he wasn’t offside and he gets taken down by the goalie,” Pallotta added. “It was a handball that was obvious to everyone probably in the world except people on the pitch. It should have been a red card which would have been 10 men in the 63rd minute. If they don’t get VAR in the Champions League, it is an absolute joke.”
Comments that will no doubt be noted by UEFA president Aleksander Ceferin who has ruled out VAR in his club competitions until and unless he is convinced the system solves more problems that it causes.
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And there’s the first mistake in VAR deployment - assuming you will get the decision you want when VAR is introduced
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+xAnd there’s the first mistake in VAR deployment - assuming you will get the decision you want when VAR is introduced Yeah, they've opened Pandora's box. If they don't introduce it people will be outraged, if they do it introduce it people will be outraged.
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+x+xAnd there’s the first mistake in VAR deployment - assuming you will get the decision you want when VAR is introduced Yeah, they've opened Pandora's box. If they don't introduce it people will be outraged, if they do it introduce it people will be outraged. Anyone who has lived through or even been aware of any 'VAR trial' will definitely not be outraged if they don't introduce it.
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+x+x+xAnd there’s the first mistake in VAR deployment - assuming you will get the decision you want when VAR is introduced Yeah, they've opened Pandora's box. If they don't introduce it people will be outraged, if they do it introduce it people will be outraged. Anyone who has lived through or even been aware of any 'VAR trial' will definitely not be outraged if they don't introduce it. The Roma president disagrees with you.
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+x+x+x+xAnd there’s the first mistake in VAR deployment - assuming you will get the decision you want when VAR is introduced Yeah, they've opened Pandora's box. If they don't introduce it people will be outraged, if they do it introduce it people will be outraged. Anyone who has lived through or even been aware of any 'VAR trial' will definitely not be outraged if they don't introduce it. The Roma president disagrees with you. Are you referring to the Alexander-Arnold handball? That was a pen, yes. The later decision in Roma's favour was not.
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+x+x+x+x+xAnd there’s the first mistake in VAR deployment - assuming you will get the decision you want when VAR is introduced Yeah, they've opened Pandora's box. If they don't introduce it people will be outraged, if they do it introduce it people will be outraged. Anyone who has lived through or even been aware of any 'VAR trial' will definitely not be outraged if they don't introduce it. The Roma president disagrees with you. Are you referring to the Alexander-Arnold handball? That was a pen, yes. The later decision in Roma's favour was not. Neither. I'm referring to them calling for VAR to be introduced. We want it gone, they want it.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd there’s the first mistake in VAR deployment - assuming you will get the decision you want when VAR is introduced Yeah, they've opened Pandora's box. If they don't introduce it people will be outraged, if they do it introduce it people will be outraged. Anyone who has lived through or even been aware of any 'VAR trial' will definitely not be outraged if they don't introduce it. The Roma president disagrees with you. Are you referring to the Alexander-Arnold handball? That was a pen, yes. The later decision in Roma's favour was not. Neither. I'm referring to them calling for VAR to be introduced. We want it gone, they want it. Oh I see. Serie A had VAR this season. They should be well acquainted with it's flaws by now. I'm not sure how people can realistically still support its inclusion.
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What was the useless person running the line doing? If the officials had enough balls to make decisions this shit wouldn't even be talked about.
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+xWhat was the useless person running the line doing? If the officials had enough balls to make decisions this shit wouldn't even be talked about. The linesman have been instructed to not flag if the call is marginal in case they deny a goal scoring opportunity because the VAR can check it.
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+x+xWhat was the useless person running the line doing? If the officials had enough balls to make decisions this shit wouldn't even be talked about. The linesman have been instructed to not flag if the call is marginal in case they deny a goal scoring opportunity because the VAR can check it. Fuck me they're turning football officials into flag wavers.
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+x+xWhat was the useless person running the line doing? If the officials had enough balls to make decisions this shit wouldn't even be talked about. The linesman have been instructed to not flag if the call is marginal in case they deny a goal scoring opportunity because the VAR can check it. are you serious?
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+x+x+xWhat was the useless person running the line doing? If the officials had enough balls to make decisions this shit wouldn't even be talked about. The linesman have been instructed to not flag if the call is marginal in case they deny a goal scoring opportunity because the VAR can check it. are you serious? This is true. Only one problem....when there is a technical problem LOL or the REF thinks that the VAR ref's (after seeing the footage 6 times from different angles) are wrong. What a fucking joke.
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So where are we at with the VAR? If it doesn’t stuff up during WC are we stuck with it? Is decision for next A-League season with FFA or with FIFA?
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Best hope is the VAR is a shambles, but unlikely due to better refereeing standards.
Where the muppets supporting VAR will struggle is when the subjective decisions like hand balls and fouls for a penalty aren’t awarded - if there’s enough of those for each side we might get a negative groundswell
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FIFA released a video on how VAR will work including the dozens of cameras, screens and people monitoring it.
Let's see how it goes but no doubt the HAL will be a budget version of it leaving room for errors.
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FIFA are just living VAR claiming accuracy on decisions is now over 99% at the WC: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44658757
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So non-pens for England, Brazil and Sweden - all ok? Failure to detect infringements (keeper off line, players in the box) when penalties scored - all ok? Ridiculous handball given against Portugal when player still in the motion of jumping for the ball - ok? Non review of Peru offside goal against us - no problem?
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+xBest hope is the VAR is a shambles, but unlikely due to better refereeing standards. Where the muppets supporting VAR will struggle is when the subjective decisions like hand balls and fouls for a penalty aren’t awarded - if there’s enough of those for each side we might get a negative groundswell So much for better refereeing standards at the World Cup.
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Actually 99% is a fail. If you bring in VAR to review 'clear and obvious errors" then you should be expecting to achieve a 100% correct decision rate on the clear and obvious errors that are reviewed.
The REAL problem is which incidents do VAR CHOOSE to review. You could in fact make a case that VAR is running at 50% or any other number, by simply pointing out incidents which VAR failed to review.
As I've said before, the cynic in me might even think the system has been set up to allow blatant corruption.
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Is there a list of the 1% of errors? What have they done to fix it?
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