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			    TWG just had a segment on it. The club has done a lot for Australia and has given more players to Socceroos than any other club.
 Atti Abonyi
 Zlatko Arambasic
 Walter Ardone
 Graham Arnold
 Francis Awaritefe
 Mark Babic
 Zeljko Babic
 Paul Bilokapic
 Mark Bosnich
 Ken Boden
 Jacob Burns
 Tim Cahill
 Pablo Cardozo
 Jason Culina
 Ron Corry
 John Davies
 John Doyle
 Robert Enes
 Craig Foster
 Tony Franken
 Aytek Genc
 Mike Gibson
 Ron Giles
 Mike Grbevski
 Joel Griffiths
 Troy Halpin
 Robert Hooker
 Alan Hunter
 Mile Jedinak
 Graham Jennings
 Zeljko Kalac
 Eddy Krncevic
 Tony Krslovic
 Ante Milicic
 John McDonald
 David Mitchell
 Ante Moric
 Kevin Mullen
 Zarko Odzakov
 Jim Patikas
 Tom Pondeljak
 Tony Popovic
 Ray Richards
 John Russell
 Abbas Saad
 Wally Savor
 Hilton Silva
 Robbie Slater
 Mile Sterjovski
 Peter Stone
 Max Tolson
 Robert Trajkovski
 Billy Vojtek
 Greg Woodhouse
 Brett Woods
 Denis Yaager
 Ned Zelic
 David Zdrilic
 
 
 Manis Lamond - Papua New Guniea
 Commins Menapi - Solomon Islands
 Ante Seric - Croatia
 Aljosa Asanovic - Croatia
 Vedran Rozic - Yugoslavia
 Stuart Munro - Scotland
 
 
 
 Hopefully another 50 successful years ahead!
 
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| imnofreak 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    Lets count the 'ic's and 'ski's                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| afromanGT 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    Umm....Mile Sterjovski started his career at Wollongong, Tim Cahill never made a senior appearance for the club, Robbie slater started his career at St George, Francis Awaritefe never played a game for them either. And that's just off the top of my head. Nice try though.                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| manchester12 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    lol you know heaps about sydney afro                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| croat23
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    i think some people just dont want to admit that a croatian club has done a lot for Australian football                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    loli personally know nothing bout new south wales premier league
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| afromanGT 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    croat23 wrote:i think some people just dont want to admit that a croatian club has done a lot for Australian football Only a Croatian supporter would make such a supid, race bound comment, I think you should consider the fact that there are three current socceroos who played for Carlton and two from Sydney United and pull your head in because that list of players was a load of tripe. If I found those four off the top of my head that were bollocks, how many others were?? Look at the facts, 10 of the most recent socceroos squad were produced by the AIS . And just two by Sydney United with just three EVER signing a professional contract for them, which makes them no better than Carlton who have produced three players aswell. Quote:lol you know heaps about sydney afro Nah, I just know a bit about football full stop, and I know what bullshit looks and smells like.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    We will give you all the ones who were your youth product and played a first grade game for you.
 1. Mark Babic
 2. Mark Bosnich
 3. Jacob Burns
 4. Jason Culina
 5. Mile Jedinak
 6. Zeljko Kalac
 7. Tony Popovic
 
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| joe_steel 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    A lot of good players have been at that club. 
 I think more than above mentioned 7 have come through the ranks. I think Milicic, Moric and Bilokapic all came through the same time. I think they were a part of the young Branko Culina team that lost to Brisbane???
 
 Either way, a lot of good juniors have come through the club (club, junior international, olympic and full national level), a lot of youngies have been given a start there and they have poached some good players from other clubs.
 
 Hopefully they keep putting out the good talent but I think the glory days are behind them. Similar story with Marconi, Olympic and co
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Similar story with Carlton, South Melbourne, Melbourne Knights or Perth SC, moreover the AIS, but nobody's trumpeting their success are they??                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| croat23
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    afromanGT wrote:Similar story with Carlton, South Melbourne, Melbourne Knights or Perth SC, moreover the AIS, but nobody's trumpeting their success are they?? maybe you should read the name of the topic again I started it just to say what a great 50 years its been. I'm not stopping you from making a topic for Carlton, Melbourne Knights ect and I wasnt saying that your beloved Carlton hasnt done anything. I find it amazing how everytime something Croatian is brought up on this forum there is always something negative for you to say about it.Edited by croat23: 1/12/2008 08:26:19 PM                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Quote:I find it amazing how everytime something Croatian is brought up on this forum there is always something negative for you to say about it. Well there's your problem. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that you make it about being croatian...                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Considering this is a football forum and I'm a Croatian fan its very hard to avoid discussing Croatia especially when Sydney United is involved.                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    And try to stick to the facts :roll:                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Well, you could talk about Sydney United and not Sydney Croatia.:-"You could also try not making shit up, that list of players is total bollocks. You should probably edit that before I do.
 
 You could also grow the fuck up. I'm german, but you don't see me trumpeting that in every post I make do you?
 
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					| croat23
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    ye i probably wouldnt trumpet that either                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    croat23 wrote:ye i probably wouldnt trumpet that either Do you really want to make something of that?? You're about |-|this far away from disappearing for a while. We've won more World Cups than Croatia will ever win in their dizziest daydreams anyway.Edited by afromanGT: 1/12/2008 08:48:07 PM                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Major Tournament wins by Croatia: NoneMajor Tournament wins by Germany: 3 world cups (and 4 runners up) , 3 Euro wins,
 
 FIFA ranking: Germany 2nd, Croatia 7th
 
 Stats dont lie
 
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					| croat23
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    afromanGT wrote:Do you really want to make something of that??
 You're about |-|this far away from disappearing for a while.
 
 We've won more World Cups than Croatia will ever win in their dizziest daydreams anyway.
 
 Edited by afromanGT: 1/12/2008 08:48:07 PM
 And...I really couldnt give a shit about Germany vs Croatia in football. Even the day we beat you at the Euro I would have admitted Germany was better. ohh and please dont ban me. Just like you I have nothing else to do but go on these forums:roll:                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    I never knew Croatia were that high up in the rankings...... Anyways, congratulations to Sydney United. Good old club. Always producing good young talent ( Golec). However there not as good as the great Marconi :p                
			    				
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			    If you didnt care then why did you bring it up?                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    croat23 wrote:afromanGT wrote:Do you really want to make something of that??
 You're about |-|this far away from disappearing for a while.
 
 We've won more World Cups than Croatia will ever win in their dizziest daydreams anyway.
 
 Edited by afromanGT: 1/12/2008 08:48:07 PM
 And...I really couldnt give a shit about Germany vs Croatia in football. Even the day we beat you at the Euro I would have admitted Germany was better. ohh and please dont ban me. Just like you I have nothing else to do but go on these forums:roll:  That probably has something to do with the fact that croatia struggled to have an impact against 10 men and still had substantially less of the ball. Well you're certainly the one that made something of it. Oh...you've got me...Just because I'd rather read about football on my nights off work when no bars are open rather than sitting moronically watching television like yourself, I must have no life :roll:                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    afromanGT wrote:Similar story with Carlton, South Melbourne, Melbourne Knights or Perth SC, moreover the AIS, but nobody's trumpeting their success are they?? Yeap, Sth Melbourne and the Knights have also had lots of good players go through them. Carlton was only around for a couple years and cant compare.  Dont know anything about Perth SC, but I dont think its in the same league as well. Les Murray wrote a blog as well:http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/blogs/lesmurray/old-soccer-ethnics-and-our-future-155174/                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Wow he isn't trying to stir the pot at the FFa at all is he. Les Murray has lost so much credibility in the last 3 years it is almost sad.                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Gods. Way to show your desire to return to the 'old days' Les. Quit while you're behind old man. You're past it.                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    afromanGT wrote:That probably has something to do with the fact that croatia struggled to have an impact against 10 men and still had substantially less of the ball.Well you're certainly the one that made something of it.
 
 Oh...you've got me...Just because I'd rather read about football on my nights off work when no bars are open rather than sitting moronically watching television like yourself, I must have no life :roll:
 Maybe I wasnt talking about football.... and I dont watch television on my nights off... joe_steel, I just saw that article before. I think its very good. Without getting into an argument I thought this comment was quite good: "Who is Mark Viduka if not the son of first generation Croatian immigrants, whose father instructed him to choose football and to play it in the way his Croatian heritage programmed him to play it? That is why Dooks, ‘for such a big man’, has such delicate skill. It was his father, not the AIS, that made him."  I'm very proud of Sydney United and Melbourne Knights and what these ethnic communities have done for Australian football.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Including starting riots and fights with rival teams?
 Do you or LEs Murray even know the best ages for technical developement?
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Quote:I'm very proud of Sydney United and Melbourne Knights and what these ethnic communities have done for Australian football. Yay for them. So the AIS didn't produce Mark Viduka, I wouldn't want any credit for that train wreck either. but look at the vast pool of tallent the ARE responsible for, including Bresciano and Grella. Quote:Including starting riots and fights with rival teams? Oh no, being the plight of the australian media pails into insignificance when they graced our presence wiht mark viduka :roll:                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    afromanGT wrote:Oh no, being the plight of the australian media pails into insignificance when they graced our presence wiht mark viduka:roll: He actually just used Mark Viduka as an example because after all he is one of the greatest players Australia has ever had. May I ask what German founded clubs have made such an impact to Australian football?                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    croat23 wrote:afromanGT wrote:Oh no, being the plight of the australian media pails into insignificance when they graced our presence wiht mark viduka:roll: He actually just used Mark Viduka as an example because after all he is one of the greatest players Australia has ever had. Viduka has won whatnow?? Oh, so he won SPL player of the year once. A couple of minor individual 'honours' do not constitute being "one of the greatest players Australia has ever had". Cahill is superior, Kewell, Baartz, Warren, Marston, Tobin, even Crino. "He was regarded as a skilled player, able to hold the ball up well and bring other players into the game.[who?]" - his wiki page. that made me laugh. A lot. Quote:May I ask what German founded clubs have made such an impact to Australian football? :-k It may just be taht rather than racially segregating themselves from the rest of the community like Croatians do, Germans have jsut asimilated and gone about making their own anonymous personal contributions to the cause. "In the 1970s and early 80's "Yugoslav" club Yugal (previously known as Yugal-Ryde, now defunct) was a constant rival on and off the field with United. Games between the clubs would often result in fan violence which some time will spill onto the field." Just thought you might like to have a read of that. I'd love to see where you could find anything about any Germans making that kind of contrubition to society. First German decendant to be capped for Australia: H Gorring, July 1933. Infact, there had been some 10 german decendants capped for Australia before the first croat, Frank Micic was capped in Novermber 1967.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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