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5:30- "You're not actually voting for the Liberal party because you thought about this, you're just voting for the Liberal party because the TV tells you to".
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rusty
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+x+x+x+x+x+xIt’s sad that you have a dim view of the sanctity of life, and you believe that life can be traded in the pursuit of morally bankrupt policy that is cause of people exploitation and death. Humans are indeed shitty. Yes indeed. I think the fact that humans continue to run the narrative that to stop people drowning we have to mentally torture other people to the point of self-harm and suicide is strong evidence of how shitty they can be. So is the narrative that handing control of our borders to criminals and overseeing the deaths of thousands and detention of tens of thousands including children somehow constitutes “humane” policy. Very very shitty indeed. That would be rather shitty if someone was actually suggesting it. Oh, so you admit the Labor/Greens policy between 07-13 was a shitty policy? That Rudd fucked up and so did the Greens by supporting it? That they are the responsible for the deaths at sea and the incarceration of tens of thousands including children in mental illness factories? Wasn't children overboard under Howard lol? -PB That's nothing on the thousands who died and tens of thousands who were housed in mental illness/suicide factories under Labor/Greens.
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5:30- "You're not actually voting for the Liberal party because you thought about this, you're just voting for the Liberal party because the TV tells you to".
Enjoy the show... Link dun work
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To the liberal parties credit, it’s amazing how well they’ve managed to convince lower-income rural/outer-suburban voters to vote to give the inner-city folk (whom they deride as not understanding their plight) enormous tax cuts. They drum up the idea of the city people as being pretentious, soy-latte drinking “not real Aussies” and then vote to make themselves materially worse off and make city people better off.
The only thing you can do is laugh at the absurdity of it all.
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paulbagzFC
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIt’s sad that you have a dim view of the sanctity of life, and you believe that life can be traded in the pursuit of morally bankrupt policy that is cause of people exploitation and death. Humans are indeed shitty. Yes indeed. I think the fact that humans continue to run the narrative that to stop people drowning we have to mentally torture other people to the point of self-harm and suicide is strong evidence of how shitty they can be. So is the narrative that handing control of our borders to criminals and overseeing the deaths of thousands and detention of tens of thousands including children somehow constitutes “humane” policy. Very very shitty indeed. That would be rather shitty if someone was actually suggesting it. Oh, so you admit the Labor/Greens policy between 07-13 was a shitty policy? That Rudd fucked up and so did the Greens by supporting it? That they are the responsible for the deaths at sea and the incarceration of tens of thousands including children in mental illness factories? Wasn't children overboard under Howard lol? -PB That's nothing on the thousands who died and tens of thousands who were housed in mental illness/suicide factories under Labor/Greens. Isn't that where they are now? -PB
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rusty
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIt’s sad that you have a dim view of the sanctity of life, and you believe that life can be traded in the pursuit of morally bankrupt policy that is cause of people exploitation and death. Humans are indeed shitty. Yes indeed. I think the fact that humans continue to run the narrative that to stop people drowning we have to mentally torture other people to the point of self-harm and suicide is strong evidence of how shitty they can be. So is the narrative that handing control of our borders to criminals and overseeing the deaths of thousands and detention of tens of thousands including children somehow constitutes “humane” policy. Very very shitty indeed. That would be rather shitty if someone was actually suggesting it. Oh, so you admit the Labor/Greens policy between 07-13 was a shitty policy? That Rudd fucked up and so did the Greens by supporting it? That they are the responsible for the deaths at sea and the incarceration of tens of thousands including children in mental illness factories? Wasn't children overboard under Howard lol? -PB That's nothing on the thousands who died and tens of thousands who were housed in mental illness/suicide factories under Labor/Greens. Isn't that where they are now? -PB How many ?
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rusty
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+xTo the liberal parties credit, it’s amazing how well they’ve managed to convince lower-income rural/outer-suburban voters to vote to give the inner-city folk (whom they deride as not understanding their plight) enormous tax cuts. They drum up the idea of the city people as being pretentious, soy-latte drinking “not real Aussies” and then vote to make themselves materially worse off and make city people better off. The only thing you can do is laugh at the absurdity of it all. They vote Liberal because they realise the best way to secure their economic futures is to invest in mining and jobs, rather than renewables to please trendy city folks.
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LFC.
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+x+xTo the liberal parties credit, it’s amazing how well they’ve managed to convince lower-income rural/outer-suburban voters to vote to give the inner-city folk (whom they deride as not understanding their plight) enormous tax cuts. They drum up the idea of the city people as being pretentious, soy-latte drinking “not real Aussies” and then vote to make themselves materially worse off and make city people better off. The only thing you can do is laugh at the absurdity of it all. They vote Liberal because they realise the best way to secure their economic futures is to invest in mining and jobs, rather than renewables to please trendy city folks who are the biggest hypocritics slight edit. Here's an interesting article https://quillette.com/2019/02/27/why-renewables-cant-save-the-planet/
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Liberals look like they have 78 seats now. That's amazing which means whatever mandate they may have is now very strong & the Independents who were hoping to hold the government 'to account' on Climate Change now don't really have much of a leg to stand on. The composition of the Senate will also be very interesting.
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Shorten lobbying against Albanese apparently
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paulbagzFC
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIt’s sad that you have a dim view of the sanctity of life, and you believe that life can be traded in the pursuit of morally bankrupt policy that is cause of people exploitation and death. Humans are indeed shitty. Yes indeed. I think the fact that humans continue to run the narrative that to stop people drowning we have to mentally torture other people to the point of self-harm and suicide is strong evidence of how shitty they can be. So is the narrative that handing control of our borders to criminals and overseeing the deaths of thousands and detention of tens of thousands including children somehow constitutes “humane” policy. Very very shitty indeed. That would be rather shitty if someone was actually suggesting it. Oh, so you admit the Labor/Greens policy between 07-13 was a shitty policy? That Rudd fucked up and so did the Greens by supporting it? That they are the responsible for the deaths at sea and the incarceration of tens of thousands including children in mental illness factories? Wasn't children overboard under Howard lol? -PB That's nothing on the thousands who died and tens of thousands who were housed in mental illness/suicide factories under Labor/Greens. Isn't that where they are now? -PB How many ? Anything greater than 0 is a problem -PB
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Chris Bowen pulling out?
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rusty
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIt’s sad that you have a dim view of the sanctity of life, and you believe that life can be traded in the pursuit of morally bankrupt policy that is cause of people exploitation and death. Humans are indeed shitty. Yes indeed. I think the fact that humans continue to run the narrative that to stop people drowning we have to mentally torture other people to the point of self-harm and suicide is strong evidence of how shitty they can be. So is the narrative that handing control of our borders to criminals and overseeing the deaths of thousands and detention of tens of thousands including children somehow constitutes “humane” policy. Very very shitty indeed. That would be rather shitty if someone was actually suggesting it. Oh, so you admit the Labor/Greens policy between 07-13 was a shitty policy? That Rudd fucked up and so did the Greens by supporting it? That they are the responsible for the deaths at sea and the incarceration of tens of thousands including children in mental illness factories? Wasn't children overboard under Howard lol? -PB That's nothing on the thousands who died and tens of thousands who were housed in mental illness/suicide factories under Labor/Greens. Isn't that where they are now? -PB How many ? Anything greater than 0 is a problem -PB Perhaps, but ~150 who are there voluntarily is much less of a problem than tens of thousands detained and thousands dead.
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+x+x+xTo the liberal parties credit, it’s amazing how well they’ve managed to convince lower-income rural/outer-suburban voters to vote to give the inner-city folk (whom they deride as not understanding their plight) enormous tax cuts. They drum up the idea of the city people as being pretentious, soy-latte drinking “not real Aussies” and then vote to make themselves materially worse off and make city people better off. The only thing you can do is laugh at the absurdity of it all. They vote Liberal because they realise the best way to secure their economic futures is to invest in mining and jobs, rather than renewables to please trendy city folks who are the biggest hypocritics slight edit. Here's an interesting article https://quillette.com/2019/02/27/why-renewables-cant-save-the-planet/ An article written by a pro-nuclear guy shilling. Not exactly interesting.
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For the Senate, I think the Libs can just deal with the minor parties and ignore the ALP and Greens.
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LFC.
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+x+x+x+xTo the liberal parties credit, it’s amazing how well they’ve managed to convince lower-income rural/outer-suburban voters to vote to give the inner-city folk (whom they deride as not understanding their plight) enormous tax cuts. They drum up the idea of the city people as being pretentious, soy-latte drinking “not real Aussies” and then vote to make themselves materially worse off and make city people better off. The only thing you can do is laugh at the absurdity of it all. They vote Liberal because they realise the best way to secure their economic futures is to invest in mining and jobs, rather than renewables to please trendy city folks who are the biggest hypocritics slight edit. Here's an interesting article https://quillette.com/2019/02/27/why-renewables-cant-save-the-planet/ An article written by a pro-nuclear guy shilling. Not exactly interesting. I guess so, just like reading pro CC guys/gal shilling articles :)
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+x+x+x+x+xTo the liberal parties credit, it’s amazing how well they’ve managed to convince lower-income rural/outer-suburban voters to vote to give the inner-city folk (whom they deride as not understanding their plight) enormous tax cuts. They drum up the idea of the city people as being pretentious, soy-latte drinking “not real Aussies” and then vote to make themselves materially worse off and make city people better off. The only thing you can do is laugh at the absurdity of it all. They vote Liberal because they realise the best way to secure their economic futures is to invest in mining and jobs, rather than renewables to please trendy city folks who are the biggest hypocritics slight edit. Here's an interesting article https://quillette.com/2019/02/27/why-renewables-cant-save-the-planet/ An article written by a pro-nuclear guy shilling. Not exactly interesting. I guess so, just like reading pro CC guys/gal shilling articles :) Don't see why Creative Commons would need shills but yeah shill articles are really not interesting.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSO, EXACTLY WHICH PART OF FOLAU’S SERMON GOT HIM SACKED? I do not necessarily agree with Israel Folau’s preaching style, but he did quote directly from the Holy Bible which, to Christians around the world, is the authoritative Word of God. This raises the question as to exactly which part of the quoted Holy Bible landed Folau in a contractual breach with Rugby Australia. Was it: Drunks? Homosexuals? Adulterers? Liars? Fornicators? Thieves? Atheists? Idolaters? or Hell? Seriously, has Rugby Australia spelt out exactly which part of the sermon it has relied on to sack Folau? Perhaps it was the reference to “drunks”, since drunken behaviour is frowned upon by Rugby Australia because it can lead to lewd public behaviour, compromising private videos, serious driving offenses and vile domestic violence against heterosexual or same-sex partners and families... It seems to me that, apart from individual players and officials making personal comments, Rugby Australia has sufficed itself to say that Folau was sacked for “serious breach of contract”. We can see where this is gradually going. SOON THEY’LL BE BANNING THE HOLY BIBLE BECAUSE IT CENSURES ALL “IMMORAL” BEHAVIOUR Politics? K. -PB It's politics. It's probably better here than in the Football section even though it was in the right thread. It's really not. -PB Meh this whole thread is just right wingers complaining about the boogeyman (aka identity politics). Why stop now? That's not fair. calling us right wingers. For your information, I have voted for Labor before but not in a long while. That's because, Labor use to protect the interests of the worker. I ask you this. Since when did Australian labor decide to go against old aged retirees? Such as people waiting on a couple of thousand from the Franking Credits because they are below the 30% tax bracket? Do you deny that the new brand of Labor has pitted sections of the community against each other. This was not the case with Hawke or Keating. You guys need to do some soul searching to reconnect with the people over real issues. I'm not sure if they're capable of soul searching. When the left use elections, especially ones they expect to win, their final analysis tends to be that the public is stupid and chose the wrong party. Just look at all the b celebs going ape shit on twitter, calling coalition voters dumb, bigoted and selfish, all because of who they cast their vote for. The same thing happened in the US with Democrats, they couldn't stand the fact they had been outsmarted and outwitted by Trump so they blame stupid, ignorant voters and fake Russia collusion instead. This is true and what you say seems to be the case. I am monitoring twitter and you got to admit, they appear to be very self-entitles, bitter and so salty. They are as you say blaming voters for being stupid and selfish. So very arrogant.
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+x+xYep awful. One day we'll have to give a national apology for it. Queue "deaths at sea" and other disgraceful arguments. This. I'm surprised we haven't received any international sanctions yet. We sure as hell deserve them. Why would you receive sanctions? For protecting your border from illegal immigration? Pull the other one. There isn't a country in the world that wouldn't protect its borders from illegal entries. BTW, the crazy thing is this. It was under a Labor Government where there were thousands in detention centers and hundreds, if not thousands of drownings at sea. Entire families lost. Women, and children too. LNP actually stopped the boats. Hardly anyone in detention centers and no new arrivals. Those who are still there might as well leave now despite being encouraged by the left wing activists to stay and cause maximum disturbance and havoc and also resulting in the "suicide attempts".
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+xWhy isn't anyone complaining about a delay in the tax cut? If you're gonna have a Liberal government, you may as well get that. The delay is because Parliament will not open till late June 2019. He is considering to make the new law retrospective so it really doesn't matter as people will still get their cut.
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5:30- "You're not actually voting for the Liberal party because you thought about this, you're just voting for the Liberal party because the TV tells you to".
Enjoy the show... Thanks for that. A bit of comic relief is always needed.
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5:30- "You're not actually voting for the Liberal party because you thought about this, you're just voting for the Liberal party because the TV tells you to".
Enjoy the show... Just watched that. Just the usual guff but I will make a comment on it. It is strange the Libs don't seem to be held to account for the doubling of the debt over the last few years. I'm sure if that were Labour you'd never hear the end of it.
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5:30- "You're not actually voting for the Liberal party because you thought about this, you're just voting for the Liberal party because the TV tells you to".
Enjoy the show... Just watched that. Just the usual guff but I will make a comment on it. It is strange the Libs don't seem to be held to account for the doubling of the debt over the last few years. I'm sure if that were Labour you'd never hear the end of it. well here is the truth. The LNP were not responsible for all of it. Let's break it down. When Howard left office there was no debt and there was money in the Bank. After years of Labor, there was Billion in debt and deficits all the time. After years of LNP, the deficit will disappear for the first time in 2020 and the debt is circa 500 Billion. After your spendathons, it takes time to reign it in and Balance the Budget!
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+xLNP actually stopped the boats. Hardly anyone in detention centers and no new arrivals. Those who are still there might as well leave now desoite being encouraged by the left wing activists to stay and cause maximum disturbance and havoc and also resulting in the "suicide attempts". I remember very clearly when under Labor and the Greens detention centres were packed to the rafters with asylum seekers, tens of thousands of them, yet there was very little commotion from the Left about this. It was only after they lost government, and detention centres started closing, that all of a sudden this concept of detaining people became some great act of inhumanity and cruelty. This was most poignant when that chap got bashed by PNG locals and died, and the subsequent confected public outrage , candlelight vigils, crocodile tears and protests against the government. Yet these very same people were deadly silent when thousands were dying and tens of thousands locked up. I guess what I learnt is that the left interpret ethics and morality differently depending on who is in government.
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Muz
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So like I was saying the debt doubled under the Liberals and they seem to be getting a free pass. Good that they have plans to reduce it but it's odd they don't get any grief about it.
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+xSo like I was saying the debt doubled under the Liberals and they seem to be getting a free pass. Good that they have plans to reduce it but it's odd they don't get any grief about it. This. The Libs have increased the debt far more than Labor did when they were in office yet they have the audacity to fear monger over how much Labor's policies will cost. Friendlyjordies made this point as well.
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Muz
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+x+xLNP actually stopped the boats. Hardly anyone in detention centers and no new arrivals. Those who are still there might as well leave now desoite being encouraged by the left wing activists to stay and cause maximum disturbance and havoc and also resulting in the "suicide attempts". I remember very clearly when under Labor and the Greens detention centres were packed to the rafters with asylum seekers, tens of thousands of them, yet there was very little commotion from the Left about this. It was only after they lost government, and detention centres started closing, that all of a sudden this concept of detaining people became some great act of inhumanity and cruelty. This was most poignant when that chap got bashed by PNG locals and died, and the subsequent confected public outrage , candlelight vigils, crocodile tears and protests against the government. Yet these very same people were deadly silent when thousands were dying and tens of thousands locked up. I guess what I learnt is that the left interpret ethics and morality differently depending on who is in government. 10's of thousands Russ? All at once? Seems a tad exaggerated. (Not disagreeing with anything else you're saying but you don't do yourself any favours when you make ridiculous claims.)
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