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Footballer - 4 Jun 2019 10:17 AM
i look at that photo of the cow paddock "site" ----   and then of the "artists impression" of how the say it will look.

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chewie, i've got a bad feeling about this.

Think most people have had a bad feeling about them since the start. 

Unknown owners, big talk about a stadium that no-one knows whether or not its going to be built, no confirmed transport infrastructure, no massive effort to attract fans. 

Would be very surprised if it turns out to be anything other than a land grab. 
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JoyfulPenguin - 4 Jun 2019 9:24 AM
There was also 0 money for it in the Victorian budget.

I'm not really sure how that is relevant when the budget incorporates the next financial year and the station won't be needed for at least 28 months. The business case for the electrification of the Tarneit and Melton lines and the Airport Rail Link is released next year. We'll know more then. 
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jlm8695 - 4 Jun 2019 10:19 AM
Footballer - 4 Jun 2019 10:17 AM

Think most people have had a bad feeling about them since the start. 

Unknown owners, big talk about a stadium that no-one knows whether or not its going to be built, no confirmed transport infrastructure, no massive effort to attract fans. 

Would be very surprised if it turns out to be anything other than a land grab. 

I'm imagining poor growth in the fan base followed by a half finished stadium with construction halted due to unpaid bills and debts.
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They need to provide some news on the stadium situation urgently.
At this stage, they have not even shown anyone that they have started preparing the documents. They have a pretty artistic render from populous and that’s it.

There are literally a minimum of 2-3 months work just to get the documents prepared before you even think about asking to start the approval process. I’m sure they’ve done this work, but they need to tell someone and they need to get it lodged.

Even if it lands on Dick’s desk tomorrow, and he is on side with it, and doesn’t run it through the public consultation process, I reckon it will be at least 3 months before he approves it. Of course that is unlikely.

Also remember the NIMBYs will have an appeal right to VCAT and that will take another 3-4 months before a merits hearing is held.

Every day counts at the moment and they are falling really, really far behind schedule if they want to start building this thing by mid-late 2020.
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My fiancee who has never been overly interested in football has decided to support Western United and become a member. She was disappointed that she couldn't buy a membership straight away though, bit poor that Western United don't have their memberships up and running yet.

Also living the West of Melbourne you could not tell that they even existed if you weren't a hardcore A-League fan. I get that the season is still a bit away but surely they want to start building buzz now?

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JoyfulPenguin - 15 Jun 2019 5:52 PM
My fiancee who has never been overly interested in football has decided to support Western United and become a member. She was disappointed that she couldn't buy a membership straight away though, bit poor that Western United don't have their memberships up and running yet.

Also living the West of Melbourne you could not tell that they even existed if you weren't a hardcore A-League fan. I get that the season is still a bit away but surely they want to start building buzz now?

Great news. The more fans for the game the better.

Fully agree though. I am in their catchment zone yet the only things I see are some of their social media posts. Hardly inspiring.

Given that they need to try and engage with Geelong and the Western Suburbs of Melbourne, it is a vast area to try and market to but they need to do better. 



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Heart_fan - 15 Jun 2019 6:21 PM
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Great news. The more fans for the game the better.

Fully agree though. I am in their catchment zone yet the only things I see are some of their social media posts. Hardly inspiring.

Given that they need to try and engage with Geelong and the Western Suburbs of Melbourne, it is a vast area to try and market to but they need to do better. 



Yeah some simple stuff would be advertising on the Western train lines, there is none of that. All their social media is seemingly exclusively focusing on Geelong as well, I get they are playing there initially but it hardly inspires confidence that this will ever be a team for Western Melbourne.

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JoyfulPenguin - 15 Jun 2019 6:53 PM
Heart_fan - 15 Jun 2019 6:21 PM

Yeah some simple stuff would be advertising on the Western train lines, there is none of that. All their social media is seemingly exclusively focusing on Geelong as well, I get they are playing there initially but it hardly inspires confidence that this will ever be a team for Western Melbourne.

That's what gets me. They saying they're for the western suburbs but are playing  games in geelong, ballarat  and marvel. I haven't seen any advertising for them besides their office in truganina 
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MarkfromCroydon - 4 Jun 2019 12:36 PM
They need to provide some news on the stadium situation urgently.
At this stage, they have not even shown anyone that they have started preparing the documents. They have a pretty artistic render from populous and that’s it.

There are literally a minimum of 2-3 months work just to get the documents prepared before you even think about asking to start the approval process. I’m sure they’ve done this work, but they need to tell someone and they need to get it lodged.

Even if it lands on Dick’s desk tomorrow, and he is on side with it, and doesn’t run it through the public consultation process, I reckon it will be at least 3 months before he approves it. Of course that is unlikely.

Also remember the NIMBYs will have an appeal right to VCAT and that will take another 3-4 months before a merits hearing is held.

Every day counts at the moment and they are falling really, really far behind schedule if they want to start building this thing by mid-late 2020.

You’re surprised? Nothing new here as this analysis from an engineer who worked on Optus Stadium just over a year ago, revealed! See link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fV4NToKm6CYv8Nk5EoMpiiHEZdJuuVZ0/view
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SouthFan - 15 Jun 2019 8:12 PM
MarkfromCroydon - 4 Jun 2019 12:36 PM

You’re surprised? Nothing new here as this analysis from an engineer who worked on Optus Stadium just over a year ago, revealed! See link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fV4NToKm6CYv8Nk5EoMpiiHEZdJuuVZ0/view

"It is important that I state up front that I am devoted supporter of the South Melbourne Football Club..." and that's when the letter went in the bin lol
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SouthFan - 15 Jun 2019 8:12 PM
MarkfromCroydon - 4 Jun 2019 12:36 PM

You’re surprised? Nothing new here as this analysis from an engineer who worked on Optus Stadium just over a year ago, revealed! See link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fV4NToKm6CYv8Nk5EoMpiiHEZdJuuVZ0/view

Good read & good find.  Really damning report on WU’s bid and the FFA’s subsequent approval...even defying some of their own ‘non-negotiables’......thanks for posting.
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paladisious - 15 Jun 2019 8:37 PM
SouthFan - 15 Jun 2019 8:12 PM

"It is important that I state up front that I am devoted supporter of the South Melbourne Football Club..." and that's when the letter went in the bin lol

To this day none of assessments stated in the letter have been proven wrong. When I first read the letter I was quite confident the timeline would be 3-5 years (at the very minimum) and to this day nothing has changed to alter that timeline (we’re already 6 months in). Only a fool would mistake professional advice (with full transparency) with false information.

For the record, the report creator also worked on the failed FFA World Cup bid providing a transport assessment on most of the proposed stadiums the “infamous” bid included. 

Cheers!
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SouthFan - 15 Jun 2019 8:12 PM
MarkfromCroydon - 4 Jun 2019 12:36 PM

You’re surprised? Nothing new here as this analysis from an engineer who worked on Optus Stadium just over a year ago, revealed! See link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fV4NToKm6CYv8Nk5EoMpiiHEZdJuuVZ0/view

Why does the writer choose the Wyndham population as the population of the catchment of the proposed stadium rather than the population within 45 minutes travel from home where its common to expect high yield and up to 75 minutes travel for reasonable yield for a regional stadium?  Of course at those distances there would be significant overlap with the catchment of other stadiums but that's common.  As an example SM's stadium would have virtually its entire catchment shared by both Victory and City and have some overlap with WU's catchment.
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SouthFan - 15 Jun 2019 8:46 PM
paladisious - 15 Jun 2019 8:37 PM

To this day none of assessments stated in the letter have been proven wrong. When I first read the letter I was quite confident the timeline would be 3-5 years (at the very minimum) and to this day nothing has changed to alter that timeline (we’re already 6 months in). Only a fool would mistake professional advice (with full transparency) with false information.

For the record, the report creator also worked on the failed FFA World Cup bid providing a transport assessment on most of the proposed stadiums the “infamous” bid included. 

Cheers!

I'm not contesting the guy's credentials or even the contents of his letter, I'm just saying it how it is in the FFA's eyes.
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Not bad,
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Iridium1010 - 18 Jun 2019 6:42 PM
Not bad,

Yup. Looks alright.
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I like it. BTW, are there any Western United fans on here? 
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Very dull and uninspiring. Take out the logos and they look like shirts for a landscaping company. 

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marconi101 - 18 Jun 2019 7:11 PM
Very dull and uninspiring. Take out the logos and they look like shirts for a landscaping company. 

As someone out west who is keen to support this team, it seems the club dont have any support staff at all. 

What a way to release your kits online with 2 photoshop images. Theres hardly any content on their facebook page or twitter at all. 

The way player announcements is being made is also very lacklustre too
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Should post the away strip. It's horrific!

I didn't even know there are people with such bad taste to that level...I'm in shock...

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jasongenova - 18 Jun 2019 7:57 PM
marconi101 - 18 Jun 2019 7:11 PM

As someone out west who is keen to support this team, it seems the club dont have any support staff at all. 

What a way to release your kits online with 2 photoshop images. Theres hardly any content on their facebook page or twitter at all. 

The way player announcements is being made is also very lacklustre too

yeah i have been trying to message them to see if i can help out the club (i don't even support the team)

I have gotten nowhere so not sure how potential members will be treated 
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Melbcityguy - 20 Jun 2019 8:20 AM
jasongenova - 18 Jun 2019 7:57 PM

yeah i have been trying to message them to see if i can help out the club (i don't even support the team)

I have gotten nowhere so not sure how potential members will be treated 

Probably think you’re a mole...
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Burztur - 20 Jun 2019 8:25 AM
Melbcityguy - 20 Jun 2019 8:20 AM

Probably think you’re a mole...

hahaha xd 

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They might need to take out some marketing just to combat the negativity on here.

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Any one heard any update on the stadium consents! 
Or are they Smoke n Mirrors like the away kit

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Blew.2 - 20 Jun 2019 4:42 PM
Any one heard any update on the stadium consents! 
Or are they Smoke n Mirrors like the away kit

Nothing from wu  or Wyndham city council. Usually they provide updates via the newsletter we receive from the council.  Yes it's a privately owned proposed stadium but council does provide updates on things that they have no say on . Ie new roads in new estates 
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Eldar - 20 Jun 2019 8:54 AM
They might need to take out some marketing just to combat the negativity on here.

Well go on. We are all waiting for you to say something positive yet you do nothing but bitch.


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TheSelectFew - 20 Jun 2019 10:56 PM
Eldar - 20 Jun 2019 8:54 AM

Well go on. We are all waiting for you to say something positive yet you do nothing but bitch.

Good squad assembled, good coaching staff, Home kit looks mint, away looks........interesting. Still on track to be the first club to own their own stadium. Over to you Mr Positivity.


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mouflonrouge - 18 Jun 2019 8:18 PM
Should post the away strip. It's horrific!

I didn't even know there are people with such bad taste to that level...I'm in shock...

I quite like the jersey's but I guess I'm in the minority.  :D 
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