[POLL- fixed] Do you care about New Zealand Football?


[POLL- fixed] Do you care about New Zealand Football?

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[POLL- fixed] Do you care about New Zealand Football?

29.17% - 21 votes Yes i care
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70.83% - 51 votes No i dont
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Waz - 11 Aug 2019 12:49 PM
jeggohouse - 11 Aug 2019 12:36 PM


I’m pretty sure if the Falkland Islands ever put up a national team they would be assigned to a different confederation to Argentina because FIFA allows these types of exceptions 

Falkland Islands not being assigned to Conmebol would hardly be surprising. There are a couple of countries on the South American mainland that are not members of Conmebol (They are CONCACAF members).  The "exceptions" you speak of are where certain countries are in different confederations to what you might expect based on geography, but I still don't know of any club in the world that plays across confederations apart from Wellington Phoenix. 
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BrisbaneBhoy - 11 Aug 2019 1:35 PM
Waz - 11 Aug 2019 1:08 PM

There has also been some talk about the possibility of some Russian clubs (those in the Far East) joining the Japanese football leagues. Nothing has come of it yet (and may never), but conversations have been had.

Ooh, conversations.  That should end well.
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BrisbaneBhoy - 11 Aug 2019 1:36 PM
Champagne Football - 11 Aug 2019 12:47 PM

Most didn't, hence their (and mine) comments 🙂

Mea culpa.
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Champagne Football - 11 Aug 2019 1:40 PM
BrisbaneBhoy - 11 Aug 2019 1:35 PM

Ooh, conversations.  That should end well.

Ok then... 

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CONCAFA Mexican teams play in the CONMEBOL champs league so there you go.

Wellington Phoenix FC

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nomates - 11 Aug 2019 1:56 PM
CONCAFA Mexican teams play in the CONMEBOL champs league so there you go.

That stopped being the case a couple of years ago already, Gage - maybe best leave this to the grownups in the land of the living?😂😂


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Champagne Football - 11 Aug 2019 1:38 PM
Waz - 11 Aug 2019 12:49 PM

Falkland Islands not being assigned to Conmebol would hardly be surprising. There are a couple of countries on the South American mainland that are not members of Conmebol (They are CONCACAF members).  The "exceptions" you speak of are where certain countries are in different confederations to what you might expect based on geography, but I still don't know of any club in the world that plays across confederations apart from Wellington Phoenix. 

Ask FIFA, they do and they’re okay with it. 


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Champagne Football - 11 Aug 2019 1:38 PM
Waz - 11 Aug 2019 12:49 PM

Falkland Islands not being assigned to Conmebol would hardly be surprising. There are a couple of countries on the South American mainland that are not members of Conmebol (They are CONCACAF members).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands_official_football_team

According to this they can't ever join FIFA(or just CONMEBOL) due to the political issue, but surely they could join Oceania in an exclusive capacity ie. as non-FIFA members, such as Tuvalu already in the OFC?


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Waz - 11 Aug 2019 2:08 PM
Champagne Football - 11 Aug 2019 1:38 PM

Ask FIFA, they do and they’re okay with it. 


Ask what of FIFA. They do what?
FIFA may be OK with WP playing in the A-League, but my question remains unanswered. 
Name any other team in the world that plays its club football across confederations.
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Waz - 11 Aug 2019 2:08 PM
Ask FIFA, they do and they’re okay with it.

A reflection on their negligence/selective care-factor if anything💡

You still haven't answered the question of what's it to you exactly that the Nix remain in the HAL - you're not a Kiwi or even just from Wellington; what the fck do you care? Just stop being anal and own your sh1t already.


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BA81 - 11 Aug 2019 2:16 PM
Champagne Football - 11 Aug 2019 1:38 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands_official_football_team

According to this they can't ever join FIFA(or just CONMEBOL) due to the political issue, but surely they could join Oceania in an exclusive capacity ie. as non-FIFA members, such as Tuvalu already in the OFC?

The Falkland Islands isn't even a country, it's a British Overseas Territory.  We might as well discuss the merits of the Australian Antarctic Territory!  This is all irrelevant. 
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Champagne Football - 11 Aug 2019 2:23 PM
BA81 - 11 Aug 2019 2:16 PM

The Falkland Islands isn't even a country, it's a British Overseas Territory.  We might as well discuss the merits of the Australian Antarctic Territory!  This is all irrelevant. 

Neither are Martinique, the US virgin Islands, Guam and the Cook Islands among others but they all have national teams and are members of FIFA.
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Champagne Football - 11 Aug 2019 2:19 PM
Waz - 11 Aug 2019 2:08 PM

Ask what of FIFA. They do what?
FIFA may be OK with WP playing in the A-League, but my question remains unanswered. 
Name any other team in the world that plays its club football across confederations.

There's none that plays it's main competition in another confederation. The Phoenix are unique. It's nice to be different.

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sub007 - 11 Aug 2019 2:46 PM
Champagne Football - 11 Aug 2019 2:23 PM

Neither are Martinique, the US virgin Islands, Guam and the Cook Islands among others but they all have national teams and are members of FIFA.

But who cares?  What's that got to do with New Zealand?
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Champagne Football - 11 Aug 2019 2:19 PM
Waz - 11 Aug 2019 2:08 PM

Ask what of FIFA. They do what?
FIFA may be OK with WP playing in the A-League, but my question remains unanswered. 
Name any other team in the world that plays its club football across confederations.

Ryan and nomates have already answered that question in this thread. 

Places like New Caldedonia and Martinique play in the Coupe de France and can qualify for the Europa League.

Mexican clubs have played in the Copa Libertadores and as of next season Japanese clubs can qualify.
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RyanM - 11 Aug 2019 2:50 PM
Champagne Football - 11 Aug 2019 2:19 PM

There's none that plays it's main competition in another confederation. The Phoenix are unique. It's nice to be different.

If you say so.
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Champagne Football - 11 Aug 2019 2:53 PM
RyanM - 11 Aug 2019 2:50 PM

If you say so.

I do.

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Champagne Football - 11 Aug 2019 1:41 PM
BrisbaneBhoy - 11 Aug 2019 1:36 PM

Mea culpa.

You're a champ :) 

Thanks for understanding the miscommunication rather than thinking we were being pedantic jerks.
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Kamaryn - 11 Aug 2019 3:11 PM
Champagne Football - 11 Aug 2019 1:41 PM

You're a champ :) 

Thanks for understanding the miscommunication rather than thinking we were being pedantic jerks.

No worries mate.  I had it in my head that the two terms were pretty much interchangeable, like flammable and inflammable.
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I don’t care for NZ football in terms of them being in the A-League - I think it’s time for them, and us, to move on. Time for Canberra to step in. 

However, I do like seeing their players have club success in Europe etc. 
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BA81 - 11 Aug 2019 2:21 PM
Waz - 11 Aug 2019 2:08 PM

A reflection on their negligence/selective care-factor if anything💡

You still haven't answered the question of what's it to you exactly that the Nix remain in the HAL - you're not a Kiwi or even just from Wellington; what the fck do you care? Just stop being anal and own your sh1t already.

I know your question is directed to Waz, but for me (who is neither a Kiwi, or a Wellington supporter), I ask the question - "Why one would want to have them kicked out of the A-League??" The A-League is already too small with regards to the number of teams competing.  The A-league needs to add teams, not reduce them.

It isn't a case of Wellington is taking a spot from an Australian team, as there is room for more teams to be added to the league.  If you don't want foreign teams in the league fine, but it should be for "new" teams, teams yet to be given a licence, not a team who is already in the league.

The only way I feel Wellington should be "kicked out" of the league is via performance - i.e. if the drop out via relegation (if/when that might be a thing/option). That said, if/when that happens, they should also have the right to regain that spot back via performance - i.e. promotion (if/when that might be a thing/option).


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Waz - 11 Aug 2019 1:13 PM
quickflick - 11 Aug 2019 1:10 PM

And the English town of Berwick play in the Scottish leagues because Scotland is apparently closer than the rest of England. Oh the humanity ... 😂

Past tense Waz, they are no longer in the league. Relegated to non league last season.
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BrisbaneBhoy - 11 Aug 2019 3:33 PM
BA81 - 11 Aug 2019 2:21 PM

I know your question is directed to Waz, but for me (who is neither a Kiwi, or a Wellington supporter), I ask the question - "Why one would want to have them kicked out of the A-League??" The A-League is already too small with regards to the number of teams competing.  The A-league needs to add teams, not reduce them.

It isn't a case of Wellington is taking a spot from an Australian team, as there is room for more teams to be added to the league.  If you don't want foreign teams in the league fine, but it should be for "new" teams, teams yet to be given a licence, not a team who is already in the league.

The only way I feel Wellington should be "kicked out" of the league is via performance - i.e. if the drop out via relegation (if/when that might be a thing/option). That said, if/when that happens, they should also have the right to regain that spot back via performance - i.e. promotion (if/when that might be a thing/option).

We need to have 12 Australian teams to get 4 ACL spots.

They should be replaced. 
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scott20won - 11 Aug 2019 4:28 PM
BrisbaneBhoy - 11 Aug 2019 3:33 PM

We need to have 12 Australian teams to get 4 ACL spots.

They should be replaced. 

Expand to 14 teams. 

Problem solved.
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sub007 - 11 Aug 2019 4:34 PM
scott20won - 11 Aug 2019 4:28 PM

Expand to 14 teams. 

Problem solved.

If there is a team from NZ in the league there is no reason Singapore and KL can’t join.

Perhaps Sage will get his wish.

Anyone who supports WP in the league must be open to SEAsian expansion.
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scott20won - 11 Aug 2019 4:38 PM
sub007 - 11 Aug 2019 4:34 PM

If there is a team from NZ in the league there is no reason Singapore and KL can’t join.

Perhaps Sage will get his wish.

Anyone who supports WP in the league must be open to SEAsian expansion.

Not true but I can see Sage using that logic 
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Waz - 11 Aug 2019 1:13 PM

Past tense Waz, they are no longer in the league. Relegated to non league last season.

Poor old Berwick. Went through there once .... it was closed. 

(I presume they went into the Scottish non-league system though?? 
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Waz - 11 Aug 2019 5:23 PM
scott20won - 11 Aug 2019 4:38 PM

Not true but I can see Sage using that logic 

I’m not trying to be provocative. It’s just really simple - You either support having foreign clubs in the league or not.
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scott20won - 11 Aug 2019 4:38 PM
sub007 - 11 Aug 2019 4:34 PM

If there is a team from NZ in the league there is no reason Singapore and KL can’t join.

Perhaps Sage will get his wish.

Anyone who supports WP in the league must be open to SEAsian expansion.

Sounds like Super Rugby.  How exciting.... not!
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BA81 - 11 Aug 2019 2:21 PM
Waz - 11 Aug 2019 2:08 PM

A reflection on their negligence/selective care-factor if anything💡

You still haven't answered the question of what's it to you exactly that the Nix remain in the HAL - you're not a Kiwi or even just from Wellington; what the fck do you care? Just stop being anal and own your sh1t already.

lol. I’m actually opposed to Nix being in the HAL, I think their slot would be better used by an Aussie club.

I just can’t argue on a false premise. They are allowed to compete across Confederations so that argument is a mute point. 

Given the stance of the HAL owners there’s no chance Nix will get the boot now so I think we all have to live with that fact. But as as long as Nix’s presence does not:

1/ Slow down or prevent a football pyramid being established in Australia. 

2/ Prevent or delay the introduction of pro/rel to the HAL. 

3/ Get used as a pretext for SEA expansion 

4/ Prevent or delay the emergence of a pro league in NZ 

providing non of that happens I can live with them, it’s not the most pressing issue facing football. 

On thd the plus side, the Yellow Fever are most likeable active support in the competition.  Not all things are bad. 
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