Second "Test" Aus v Pak


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baggygreenmania - 1 Dec 2019 9:17 AM
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30 is not pretty decent.. it is mediocre grazor. Warner has always been a home track bully. He was in white ball mode for most of his second 150. Congrats on his triple but to be honest the bowling was not up to Test standard. Their best bowler Shah poses little threat on our decks.. with slow turn and little bounce.

Warner’s average overseas must have dropped close to 30 after The Ashes tour. 
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Pakistan are now 8-280! 
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Fancy Yasir Shah scoring a century, plus him and Abbas putting together a huge partnership do late in the Pakistani innings. 
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Keyboard Warrior - 30 Nov 2019 9:39 PM
Warner is a superstar in Aus and not up to par abroad. 

At the same time credit to him breaking the record at 300 plus runs. 

He's something of an Aussie version of Sehwag. A match winner who can take the game away in the right conditions. The rest of the time you just have to put up with it.

Should have told him to go t/20 mode until the break and reassess then (or declare when he got out). Would have been great to see the reaction of a 401 from his many "fans" lol. 
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Keyboard Warrior - 30 Nov 2019 9:36 PM
This series dominance just confirms that we are superstars in our own country. 

And we can’t cut the mustard away from home. 

KW now we have a strong middle order.. Smithy and Labu we can expect to perform better overseas.. Marnus the Menace certainly looks a competent spin player.. his wristwork is almost subcontinetal.
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Keyboard Warrior - 30 Nov 2019 9:39 PM

he averages mid to high 30s overseas which is still pretty decent

30 is not pretty decent.. it is mediocre grazor. Warner has always been a home track bully. He was in white ball mode for most of his second 150. Congrats on his triple but to be honest the bowling was not up to Test standard. Their best bowler Shah poses little threat on our decks.. with slow turn and little bounce.
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Keyboard Warrior - 30 Nov 2019 9:41 PM
Screamer from Paine to dismiss Ifkithar off Starc! 

Pak 5-89!

Where are those knockers of Paine's keeping now. He still has it with the gloves does the old fella.

Starc the recipient of three very poor shots. If he is not mopping up cheap tail wickets he is getting gifts to lift his wicket tally. Meanwhile CA and the media are gushing all over him.

I wanna know where has the swinging pinkie gone.


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Keyboard Warrior - 30 Nov 2019 9:39 PM
Warner is a superstar in Aus and not up to par abroad. 

At the same time credit to him breaking the record at 300 plus runs. 

he averages mid to high 30s overseas which is still pretty decent
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Keyboard Warrior - 30 Nov 2019 9:44 PM
Now Rizwan caught by a regulation catch off Starc! 

Pak 6-89.

Paine catching another. 
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Now Rizwan caught by a regulation catch off Starc! 

Pak 6-89.
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Screamer from Paine to dismiss Ifkithar off Starc! 

Pak 5-89!
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Warner is a superstar in Aus and not up to par abroad. 

At the same time credit to him breaking the record at 300 plus runs. 
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This series dominance just confirms that we are superstars in our own country. 

And we can’t cut the mustard away from home. 
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flyslip - 30 Nov 2019 7:51 PM
A rubbish declaration. Should have told Wade to keep him on strike and let him go the tonk. A 401* was in the offing. If he got out, declare then. Not very likely to be the difference in the match.

Good time to declare. 

Let Warner get the record, then disappear from the pitch. 

We should win this Test. 
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Loving the day/ night cricket. 

Easier to see the pink ball. 
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Babar batting well against us under pressure. 

36 off 49 balls is good going chasing 500 plus. 
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A rubbish declaration. Should have told Wade to keep him on strike and let him go the tonk. A 401* was in the offing. If he got out, declare then. Not very likely to be the difference in the match.
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baggygreenmania - 30 Nov 2019 4:30 PM
Paddles - 30 Nov 2019 12:49 PM

Their glory days when they had kids the calibre of Imran, Wasim and Waqar.
Talking purely of  bowling. Yes Amir looked to be special but he shot himself and his career in the foot. Reliving glory days by choosing kids not ready for FC cricket let alone Test. and hoping they are the next Imran, Wasim or Waqar.

I didnt say Amir, I said Asif :P

Asif never bowled real pace - he bowled a McGrath clone at low pace, nothing like Waqar, Wasim or Imran. 

I understand - you have no idea who I am talking about.

Imran was barely bowling much post Waqar debuting besides taking the new ball in Aus in late 1989/90, but he only took the new ball. By then his bowling was winding down. By 1990/91 - Imran was a batting allrounder. Imran and Mudussar (soon dropped or retired - cos he aint in the 1992 teams at all) were batting allrounders and Aaqib Javed was the number 3 seamer tbh. Imran and Waqar DO NOT SIGNIFICANTLY OVERLAP as bowlers at all.

Imran wasnt even good as  a kid. He was awful. And slow.  And dropped. He went to England learnt to bowl fast. A kiwi batsman taught him how to do it in league cricket. Then he learned reverse from Nawaz. Akram was found in a net session. Younis was from the system. And earnt his call up. Now - Akram you could say was lucky etc. But he is the only non system selection. And Imran saw something in him. 7 FC games for 17 wickets isn't anything. At all.
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Disagree on the glory days cos they were number 1 as late as 2016. And they were more than useful in 2010 before that spot fixing scandal. Asif is one of the best test bowlers ever. He averaged 24 with the ball at sr 48 between 2005 and 2010, when it was a batting era and then some.

They had a great run between that scandal till the retirements of YK, on of the world's best test batsmen ever and the every Misbah, a great captain, and excellent batsman, retired. Even with no Asif.

But this team is a farce of selections now. It really is. Its one thing for Inzi to pick his nephew, but why wreck the bowling unit.

I totally blame the selectors here. This is blatant and obvious to any cricket fan. It is a farce. They're not even close to selecting the best players in Pakistan and eligible - and ready - to play.

Their glory days when they had kids the calibre of Imran, Wasim and Waqar.
Talking purely of  bowling. Yes Amir looked to be special but he shot himself and his career in the foot. Reliving glory days by choosing kids not ready for FC cricket let alone Test. and hoping they are the next Imran, Wasim or Waqar.

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baggygreenmania - 30 Nov 2019 10:50 AM
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He said the ball seamed and swung around dusk with batting not all that easy. Looked composed to me. Some of his wristwork with those on side clips looked very sub continental..ala Steve Smith to be honest.

Fair enough, he would know better than I would. It wasn't obvious to me though. A little bit of swing and maybe a hint of seam very early on as you would expect, then "straight as", is what I watched. Very good batting conditions. Aided by some average bowling.
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only saw the first session. Ball was probably as difficult as it was in england but a bit less accurate which let the pressure off
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baggygreenmania - 30 Nov 2019 8:48 AM
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Totally agree. Pakistan are living in the past. Their glory days when they had kids the calibre of Imran, Wasim and Waqar.

Disagree on the glory days cos they were number 1 as late as 2016. And they were more than useful in 2010 before that spot fixing scandal. Asif is one of the best test bowlers ever. He averaged 24 with the ball at sr 48 between 2005 and 2010, when it was a batting era and then some.

They had a great run between that scandal till the retirements of YK, on of the world's best test batsmen ever and the every Misbah, a great captain, and excellent batsman, retired. Even with no Asif.

But this team is a farce of selections now. It really is. Its one thing for Inzi to pick his nephew, but why wreck the bowling unit.

I totally blame the selectors here. This is blatant and obvious to any cricket fan. It is a farce. They're not even close to selecting the best players in Pakistan and eligible - and ready - to play.
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flyslip - 30 Nov 2019 10:19 AM
They had a graphic illustrating what Labuschagne chose to play/leave for balls around off stump. You could basically have drawn a line around fifth stump for the balls he left. Anything inside this he played. The sign of a top order batsman in form, though the ball wasn't moving much to cause him any doubts.

He said the ball seamed and swung around dusk with batting not all that easy. Looked composed to me. Some of his wristwork with those on side clips looked very sub continental..ala Steve Smith to be honest.
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baggygreenmania - 30 Nov 2019 9:14 AM
Musa.. specially looks way out of this league. He gave far too many runs to Warner specially to get him started after a cautious start. 

Sending them through chest high on the leg side wasn't much of a plan to Marnus either. Their other young bowler appears way better at this stage.Not much of a sample size though.
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They had a graphic illustrating what Labuschagne chose to play/leave for balls around off stump. You could basically have drawn a line around fifth stump for the balls he left. Anything inside this he played. The sign of a top order batsman in form, though the ball wasn't moving much to cause him any doubts.
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Musa and Shah copped a real hammering. Musa.. specially looks way out of this league. He gave far too many runs to Warner specially to get him started after a cautious start. Shah probed away but Marnus and Warner had his measure. I liked their use of feet and crease to blunt his attack.
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The pair has posted a new second wicket partnership record for Adelaide Oval, breaking the 275 added by Lindsay Hassett and Colin McDonald against South Africa in 1953. I understand they too now hold the new 2nd wicket partnership record against Pakistan beating Taylor/Langer.
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flyslip - 29 Nov 2019 10:09 PM
Go Marnus. What a find he has been.

In a short 14 months he has gone from a struggling state player to the top Test scorer for 2019. I stand corrected on that as it has yet to be confirmed. If so that is quite a jump. From just 10 matches he is now pushing @47. His FC average has gone from low @30s to almost @40. 
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Paddles - 29 Nov 2019 4:44 PM
,http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/player/1072472.html


How on earth is this kid a test debutant? At all?

7 fc games, 17 wickets, at an appalling;y bad average of 37. Tail end bat. With a terrible tail end batting average.

Seriously. This is ridiculous. And a farce. Total farce.

Hasan Ali, Imran Khan, Naseem Shah, Wahab Riaz if you must.... how on earth this person playing test cricket.

Totally agree. Pakistan are living in the past. Their glory days when they had kids the calibre of Imran, Wasim and Waqar.
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Hope this was just a really off day for Pakistan. Would like to see some sort of contest.
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