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patjennings
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Trump even though he is being in the polls is still a 50/50 chance.
Biden will win 224 votes
Trump will win 125 votes
Trump however will win a large swathe of other 189 electoral college votes. He is likely to get 133 and Biden is likely to get 56. This would mean a small Biden victory. However For instance Trump would only have to hold Pennsylvania (which he won last times) to win the presidency
The other thing in Trump's favour is that his base will vote. Not all dems are that fanatical for Biden. What will hurt Trump is that the independents, who swung to him heavily last time, have deserted him in droves.
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paulbagzFC
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Covid gonna undo Trump after all maybe -PB
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Burztur
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+x+xeven if trump lost he would refuse to accept the outcome How would you describe Hillary supporters over the last four years? What supporters?
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ErogenousZone
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+x+x+xWelp Biden wins the M's finalising the closing of ranks by the DNC to freeze out Bernie. Four more years of Trump incoming along with the DNC losing more in the Congress/Senate in due time. Won't see a Democrat President for a long time. -PB Bernie Derangement Syndrome. :hehe::laugh: Not saying he would have beaten Trump, but you need an extremist to beat an extremist. Biden will get slaughtered. -PB At least would have made it a fair election. Democracy doesn't work when their is only one effective candidate.
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Aljay
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+xeven if trump lost he would refuse to accept the outcome How would you describe Hillary supporters over the last four years?
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paulbagzFC
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+x+xWelp Biden wins the M's finalising the closing of ranks by the DNC to freeze out Bernie. Four more years of Trump incoming along with the DNC losing more in the Congress/Senate in due time. Won't see a Democrat President for a long time. -PB Bernie Derangement Syndrome. :hehe::laugh: Not saying he would have beaten Trump, but you need an extremist to beat an extremist. Biden will get slaughtered. -PB
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ErogenousZone
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+xWelp Biden wins the M's finalising the closing of ranks by the DNC to freeze out Bernie. Four more years of Trump incoming along with the DNC losing more in the Congress/Senate in due time. Won't see a Democrat President for a long time. -PB Bernie Derangement Syndrome. :hehe::laugh:
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ErogenousZone
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+xeven if trump lost he would refuse to accept the outcome The Democrats & the entire political & media establishment still haven't accepted 2016 & have been whining like little bitches ever since. :hehe::laugh:
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even if trump lost he would refuse to accept the outcome
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Bundoora B
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+xWelp Biden wins the M's finalising the closing of ranks by the DNC to freeze out Bernie. Four more years of Trump incoming along with the DNC losing more in the Congress/Senate in due time. Won't see a Democrat President for a long time. -PB i doubt any of the dem nominees could win it. it's stacked against them and no one other than bernie really cut through the media landscape. and frankly he's too old and only doing because there's no one better. biden is a terrible candidate. if they are lucky he will get the virus so they get another choice.
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paulbagzFC
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Welp Biden wins the M's finalising the closing of ranks by the DNC to freeze out Bernie. Four more years of Trump incoming along with the DNC losing more in the Congress/Senate in due time. Won't see a Democrat President for a long time. -PB
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paulbagzFC
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Irony that Joe is calling for there to not be mud flinging. -PB
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ErogenousZone
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+x+xShows where the Democrats are at when they are so terrified of Bernie that they have to play three wise monkeys & back a fucking loser like Biden. They're going to get smashed. Trump is not doubt the incumbent favourite. However, if you think 'pinko' Bernie would do better than Biden then you are seriously mistaken. Bernie would lose by more. Republicans obviously won't vote for him and 60% of the Democratic Party are more centrist or conservative and will not be jumping at the chance to vote for Bernie. By the time Trump is finished with him Trump will not only increase his elecotoral college win but alos win the popular vote this time. Florida will be on the table with Biden which would have no hope with Bernie as the candidate.North Carolina will be in play and if he picks O'Rourke as VP Texas will also be a shot. The majority of the Democratic Party is basically conservative. The loud minority is very liberal. Have you seen bumbling Uncle Joe, seriously if people think Donald Trump is kind of out there as a President can you imagine this guy? Bernie is passionate & eloquent & can present a persuasive argument, he's not my cup of tea politically but if anyone can mobilise younger voters he can.
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patjennings
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+xShows where the Democrats are at when they are so terrified of Bernie that they have to play three wise monkeys & back a fucking loser like Biden. They're going to get smashed. Trump is not doubt the incumbent favourite. However, if you think 'pinko' Bernie would do better than Biden then you are seriously mistaken. Bernie would lose by more. Republicans obviously won't vote for him and 60% of the Democratic Party are more centrist or conservative and will not be jumping at the chance to vote for Bernie. By the time Trump is finished with him Trump will not only increase his elecotoral college win but alos win the popular vote this time. Florida will be on the table with Biden which would have no hope with Bernie as the candidate.North Carolina will be in play and if he picks O'Rourke as VP Texas will also be a shot. The majority of the Democratic Party is basically conservative. The loud minority is very liberal.
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+x+xShows where the Democrats are at when they are so terrified of Bernie that they have to play three wise monkeys & back a fucking loser like Biden. They're going to get smashed. Bingo. Then again, it's also on Bernie to fucking up the ante and stop being a nice guy about shit either. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk7LDzqPAwc-PB That's one of the reasons people like him though.
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paulbagzFC
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+xShows where the Democrats are at when they are so terrified of Bernie that they have to play three wise monkeys & back a fucking loser like Biden. They're going to get smashed. Bingo. Then again, it's also on Bernie to fucking up the ante and stop being a nice guy about shit either. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk7LDzqPAwc-PB
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ErogenousZone
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Shows where the Democrats are at when they are so terrified of Bernie that they have to play three wise monkeys & back a fucking loser like Biden.
They're going to get smashed.
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Aljay
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+x'Uncle Joe' Biden? Good lord.. You'd think they want to lose the election with his history, especially his crimes in Ukraine including providing his loser drug addict son a highly paid role at a Ukrainian gas company. We could also mention his 'questionable' behaviour around little girls and women captured on camera, but maybe he's just a friendly bear. I mean, guy. Not saying that Bernie is the answer (and there are big question marks), but the worst thing I've heard about him is that he was apparently something of a freeloader when living in a hippie commune in the 70s. Poor form socially, but hardly a criminal act. The biggest knocks against Bernie as far as I can tell, other than the unaffordable policies are 1) his lack of successfully implementing anything in decades in the senate 2) his support for Castro and USSR when they were the USA’s biggest enemies 3) the p.ornographic fiction he published (as a 30yr old adult) 4) he’s not actually a Democrat
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Aljay
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I’ll be stunned if Warren backs Biden. Will be interesting to see. The thing that gets me about Biden is that he first ran for President in 1988.
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Burztur
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+xLol Warren bailing out, watch her back Biden now The DNC wheeling and dealing is complete, successfully pissing off the youth voter base of the Democrats for a generation. -PB Warren supporters won’t necessarily back Bernie anyway.
But agree that Bernie supporters are gonna be pissed and probably won’t bother during the general election now.
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paulbagzFC
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Lol Warren bailing out, watch her back Biden now The DNC wheeling and dealing is complete, successfully pissing off the youth voter base of the Democrats for a generation. -PB
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Burztur
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Yeah, I can't see Biden beating Trump. Best shot was for Sanders and he was far from certain.
To be honest, coronavirus will dictate how some of this plays out.
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'Uncle Joe' Biden? Good lord..
You'd think they want to lose the election with his history, especially his crimes in Ukraine including providing his loser drug addict son a highly paid role at a Ukrainian gas company. We could also mention his 'questionable' behaviour around little girls and women captured on camera, but maybe he's just a friendly bear. I mean, guy.
Not saying that Bernie is the answer (and there are big question marks), but the worst thing I've heard about him is that he was apparently something of a freeloader when living in a hippie commune in the 70s. Poor form socially, but hardly a criminal act.
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Hilarious watching DNC closing ranks and doing deals to pile against Bernie. Biden will get steamrolled against Trump, Democrats won't win an election for another decade. -PB
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Aljay
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Biden bounces back big time on Super Tuesday. The establishment machine must have promised a lot to Klobuchar and Buttigieg to drop out when they did, so their votes would swing to Biden.
Trump will beat Biden in a canter.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYou could love the Democrats and the Left. Only 15% care about jobs and the economy, but damn, if you attack their diversity quota awards , watch out because only the edoocated wach dem films wif riting... Did you even read the article you posted lol? The people were surveyed were small business owners. Also the question they were asked was “What matters to them the most” not whether they care about those issues or not. The article also says that most dem leaning small business owners care about healthcare the most. This doesn’t mean they don’t care about jobs or the economy at all. “This is a high watermark for President Trump’s job approval, both among small business owners in our survey and among the general public,” said SurveyMonkey senior research scientist Laura Wronski https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/20/trumps-approval-rating-among-small-biz-owners-hits-64percent-survey-shows.html What does that have to do with your original point which was “only 15% of the left cares about job and and the economy?” If you can read that wasn't the point. The point is tDemocrats care more about the diversity quotas than they do their about people's jobs and the economy, and FFS DEMOCRAT BUSINESS OWNERS not caring about jobs and the economy. That;s like saying 15% of dentists care about teeth. I can read and I quoted you for word for word lol. Wherw in the article did it mention that the dems care about diversity quotas? All I saw in the article is that dem-leaning business owners care about healthcare more which is fair enough as the American for-profit health care system literally kills 10’s of thousands of people every year. Its liking talking to wall. Go overt whatI said a few more times until you get. And FFS a business owner not having jobs and the economy as his number concern- how woul you fund this free health care for all if people if the nations don't have jobs and the economy is tanking? It just typifies the Loony Left- "we want all these free things but someone else to pay for them" Medicare for all is actually significantly cheaper than the current system not to mention that it will save 10’s of thousands of lives every year. https://www.salon.com/2020/02/22/multiple-studies-show-medicare-for-all-would-be-cheaper-than-public-option-pushed-by-moderates/ I repeat. How would you fund it people didn't have jobs and the economy tanked? Can you answer that? It’s honestly a stupid question but I’ll answer it anyway M4A is significantly cheaper so people will be spending LESS money on healthcare than they were before. The study mentioned in the article said M4A will save $2 trillion over a 10 year period and would save each family over $2400 each year. Look past your ideology tinted world view. The number one concern for a business owner is jobs and the economy. Without those, none of your social equity and spending on free health care is possible. Jobs and a strong economy are the two pillars upon which government and personal spending rests Only a left wing socialis st ideologue who thinks taxation or a Magic Money Theory is the way forward You can have multiple priorities as a business owner. Of course they would care about jobs and the economy but healthcare is probably the more important issue until M4A is implemented. Healthcare is currently a cost for a business. If that was resolved via M4A, then they can use the money on wages and other areas. This was where the Andrew Yang proposition was most compelling for me. 30% of American retail jobs (i.e small businesses) are getting sucked up due to Amazon. What happens then?
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Burztur
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+x+xSanders is probably the only legitimate chance the Dems have against Trump but the establishment will backdoor their way in with Bloomberg. If that happens, Trump will most likely get 4 more years. Trump will get 4 more years no matter who they put up. He's $1.50 with the bookies at the moment. Trump is most likely but Sanders has the best shot of all the Dems. None of the 'moderates' are viable imo.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYou could love the Democrats and the Left. Only 15% care about jobs and the economy, but damn, if you attack their diversity quota awards , watch out because only the edoocated wach dem films wif riting... Did you even read the article you posted lol? The people were surveyed were small business owners. Also the question they were asked was “What matters to them the most” not whether they care about those issues or not. The article also says that most dem leaning small business owners care about healthcare the most. This doesn’t mean they don’t care about jobs or the economy at all. “This is a high watermark for President Trump’s job approval, both among small business owners in our survey and among the general public,” said SurveyMonkey senior research scientist Laura Wronski https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/20/trumps-approval-rating-among-small-biz-owners-hits-64percent-survey-shows.html What does that have to do with your original point which was “only 15% of the left cares about job and and the economy?” If you can read that wasn't the point. The point is tDemocrats care more about the diversity quotas than they do their about people's jobs and the economy, and FFS DEMOCRAT BUSINESS OWNERS not caring about jobs and the economy. That;s like saying 15% of dentists care about teeth. I can read and I quoted you for word for word lol. Wherw in the article did it mention that the dems care about diversity quotas? All I saw in the article is that dem-leaning business owners care about healthcare more which is fair enough as the American for-profit health care system literally kills 10’s of thousands of people every year. Its liking talking to wall. Go overt whatI said a few more times until you get. And FFS a business owner not having jobs and the economy as his number concern- how woul you fund this free health care for all if people if the nations don't have jobs and the economy is tanking? It just typifies the Loony Left- "we want all these free things but someone else to pay for them" Medicare for all is actually significantly cheaper than the current system not to mention that it will save 10’s of thousands of lives every year. https://www.salon.com/2020/02/22/multiple-studies-show-medicare-for-all-would-be-cheaper-than-public-option-pushed-by-moderates/ I repeat. How would you fund it people didn't have jobs and the economy tanked? Can you answer that? It’s honestly a stupid question but I’ll answer it anyway M4A is significantly cheaper so people will be spending LESS money on healthcare than they were before. The study mentioned in the article said M4A will save $2 trillion over a 10 year period and would save each family over $2400 each year. Look past your ideology tinted world view. The number one concern for a business owner is jobs and the economy. Without those, none of your social equity and spending on free health care is possible. Jobs and a strong economy are the two pillars upon which government and personal spending rests Only a left wing socialis st ideologue who thinks taxation or a Magic Money Theory is the way forward Gets schooled, shifts goalposts.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYou could love the Democrats and the Left. Only 15% care about jobs and the economy, but damn, if you attack their diversity quota awards , watch out because only the edoocated wach dem films wif riting... Did you even read the article you posted lol? The people were surveyed were small business owners. Also the question they were asked was “What matters to them the most” not whether they care about those issues or not. The article also says that most dem leaning small business owners care about healthcare the most. This doesn’t mean they don’t care about jobs or the economy at all. “This is a high watermark for President Trump’s job approval, both among small business owners in our survey and among the general public,” said SurveyMonkey senior research scientist Laura Wronski https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/20/trumps-approval-rating-among-small-biz-owners-hits-64percent-survey-shows.html What does that have to do with your original point which was “only 15% of the left cares about job and and the economy?” If you can read that wasn't the point. The point is tDemocrats care more about the diversity quotas than they do their about people's jobs and the economy, and FFS DEMOCRAT BUSINESS OWNERS not caring about jobs and the economy. That;s like saying 15% of dentists care about teeth. I can read and I quoted you for word for word lol. Wherw in the article did it mention that the dems care about diversity quotas? All I saw in the article is that dem-leaning business owners care about healthcare more which is fair enough as the American for-profit health care system literally kills 10’s of thousands of people every year. Its liking talking to wall. Go overt whatI said a few more times until you get. And FFS a business owner not having jobs and the economy as his number concern- how woul you fund this free health care for all if people if the nations don't have jobs and the economy is tanking? It just typifies the Loony Left- "we want all these free things but someone else to pay for them" Medicare for all is actually significantly cheaper than the current system not to mention that it will save 10’s of thousands of lives every year. https://www.salon.com/2020/02/22/multiple-studies-show-medicare-for-all-would-be-cheaper-than-public-option-pushed-by-moderates/ I repeat. How would you fund it people didn't have jobs and the economy tanked? Can you answer that? It’s honestly a stupid question but I’ll answer it anyway M4A is significantly cheaper so people will be spending LESS money on healthcare than they were before. The study mentioned in the article said M4A will save $2 trillion over a 10 year period and would save each family over $2400 each year. Look past your ideology tinted world view. The number one concern for a business owner is jobs and the economy. Without those, none of your social equity and spending on free health care is possible. Jobs and a strong economy are the two pillars upon which government and personal spending rests Only a left wing socialis st ideologue who thinks taxation or a Magic Money Theory is the way forward You can have multiple priorities as a business owner. Of course they would care about jobs and the economy but healthcare is probably the more important issue until M4A is implemented.
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