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Monoethnic Social Club - 30 Nov 2020 9:45 AM

I In the same breath though will everyone here agree that if they still haven't commenced building their stadium in say, 2 years ( a total of 4 since receiving their licence), then we agree to put pressure on the FA to dissolve the team??? 

What a fucking ridiculous statement. I don’t think CCM bring a lot to the league anymore (apart from playing in a beautiful stadium), but I will never want anyone to put pressure on the governing body to dissolve them. We need more teams, not less. 

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Feed_The_Brox - 30 Nov 2020 9:58 AM
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What a fucking ridiculous statement. I don’t think CCM bring a lot to the league anymore (apart from playing in a beautiful stadium), but I will never want anyone to put pressure on the governing body to dissolve them. We need more teams, not less. 

Ridiculous to you but not to fans of teams not allowed to progress to the highest level in this country, their spots taken by a property scam posing as a soccer club.
We don't need more teams/clubs buddy, there are 1000s of them in Australia right now. The FA just doesn't want you to care about them because they aren't part of the entertainment package you get on Foxtel.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 30 Nov 2020 10:14 AM

Ridiculous to you but not to fans of teams not allowed to progress to the highest level in this country, their spots taken by a property scam posing as a soccer club.
We don't need more teams/clubs buddy, there are 1000s of them in Australia right now. The FA just doesn't want you to care about them because they aren't part of the entertainment package you get on Foxtel.

Ah, so you're just an old bitter. that explains a lot. 
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Feed_The_Brox - 30 Nov 2020 10:44 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 30 Nov 2020 10:14 AM

Ah, so you're just an old bitter. that explains a lot. 

I thought I already admitted to that in my previous post (and plenty of others prior to that)?
Ok , Im an NSL bitter, grumpy old bastard, and I hate them because my monoethnic club full of blood curdling, rioting Greeks didnt get chosen, fair enough thats all true but it has been 24 months now and not only has 1 spadeful of earth not been turned over on the "shovel ready" site, they havent even lodged an application. How many more years are you all willing to let pass before you admit it was a scam and demand answers? 2,5 or 10 maybe? 
Instead of personal insults, why not question the ride those poor few hundred "fans" in Tarneit are being taken on?
So back to your comment about needing new clubs, what's wrong with the 1000s of existing clubs currently playing in the hundreds of leagues Australia wide? Too ethnic for you? There's plenty of "mainstream dinki di Strayan" clubs around too if that's the case cobber. They are also geographically spread if that's what your next argument is. 
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Western Utd Get Excited!!!!!!!!more sluggos!!!!!!
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Feed_The_Brox - 30 Nov 2020 10:44 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 30 Nov 2020 10:14 AM

Ah, so you're just an old bitter. that explains a lot. 

A bitter? We actually know him personally.  He's a mv fan 
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 1 Dec 2020 7:12 PM
Feed_The_Brox - 30 Nov 2020 10:44 AM

A bitter? We actually know him personally.  He's a mv fan 

"Oh I split my sides, ofcourse he is!" 
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 1 Dec 2020 7:12 PM
Feed_The_Brox - 30 Nov 2020 10:44 AM

A bitter? We actually know him personally.  He's a mv fan 

Huh? I think you must be mistaken mate. Who do you think I am?  I have only ever been to one A league game, it must have been Victory because it was about 10 years ago, and hated every minute of it, plastic shit, plastic crowd, scrawny little cock-knockers acting like UK casuals .... One of them made a smart arse remark about my Panathinaikos top so I smacked him around a little and we left before half time.... sorry if that was you or someone yoi know, I was a lot angrier back then...  funnily enough, as we were leaving the crowd started singing some gobbledook chant to the tune of "Horto Magiko" we pissed ourselves laughing at the irony.
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soccerfoo - 1 Dec 2020 8:47 PM
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"Oh I split my sides, ofcourse he is!" 

Just dont split your sluggos . BTW what are sluggos?
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Western United have sold out a friendly against north Geelong warriors at skilled stadium on Saturday. Sure there will be some smart ass comments I’m just happy the club builds some momentum off the field 
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Melbcityguy - 3 Dec 2020 11:45 AM
Western United have sold out a friendly against north Geelong warriors at skilled stadium on Saturday. Sure there will be some smart ass comments I’m just happy the club builds some momentum off the field 

they sold 200 tickets
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3500 tickets
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Melbcityguy - 3 Dec 2020 11:45 AM
Western United have sold out a friendly against north Geelong warriors at skilled stadium on Saturday. Sure there will be some smart ass comments I’m just happy the club builds some momentum off the field 

Wow, impressive if they sold out Skilled, even at reduced capacity that's what 5-10 thousand tickets for a friendly against an NPL side .... Thats more than what they where getting when they started the season! No smart ass comments here that is seriously good.
How much did the tickets cost by the way?
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Monoethnic Social Club - 3 Dec 2020 3:07 PM
Melbcityguy - 3 Dec 2020 11:45 AM

Wow, impressive if they sold out Skilled, even at reduced capacity that's what 5-10 thousand tickets for a friendly against an NPL side .... Thats more than what they where getting when they started the season! No smart ass comments here that is seriously good.
How much did the tickets cost by the way?

Not sure I just read it from their social channel it’s good to see people showing their support for football 
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Melbcityguy - 3 Dec 2020 3:22 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 3 Dec 2020 3:07 PM

Not sure I just read it from their social channel it’s good to see people showing their support for football 

I presume a majority of the spectators would be Geelong Croatia fans (having been starved of live football all year) wanting to see their team beat up on the gypsies.... They could have had the game at the Warriors ground and spread a little good will to the local community but meh .... not surprised.
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soccerfoo - 3 Dec 2020 12:28 PM
3500 tickets

The game was today, any jdea how many of the 3500 turned up?  Was it really a sellout or are they just so used to the word being associated with them? 
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Friend lives in Weribee went and It was a gala day, chuvaps stand, kids running around. many outside the ground. Looked like a crowd as was reported. Alot of Croats, music.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 5 Dec 2020 11:21 PM
soccerfoo - 3 Dec 2020 12:28 PM

The game was today, any jdea how many of the 3500 turned up?  Was it really a sellout or are they just so used to the word being associated with them? 

If western United fail how is that good for football in Australia? I don’t get your argument 
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Melbcityguy - 6 Dec 2020 9:03 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 5 Dec 2020 11:21 PM

If western United fail how is that good for football in Australia? I don’t get your argument 

To be fair he’s not alone; I’ve never seen such passionate opposition to a club as WU are getting. 
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Waz - 6 Dec 2020 9:23 AM
Melbcityguy - 6 Dec 2020 9:03 AM

To be fair he’s not alone; I’ve never seen such passionate opposition to a club as WU are getting. 

This opposition is good to build real rivalries in the domestic game. Helps legitimise WU and oh, another marginalized team that could have actually
won the GF this year if the Delbridge goal had a different interpretation to it, and that is City!
These teams came 2 & 3 last season and look even stronger this season.
Lets keep the criticism going, thats gold! 
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Waz - 6 Dec 2020 9:23 AM
Melbcityguy - 6 Dec 2020 9:03 AM

To be fair he’s not alone; I’ve never seen such passionate opposition to a club as WU are getting. 

Unfortunately yeah a lot of people have this view towards WU, but as Melbcityguy said, Australian football really cannot afford WU to fail. I don't see any logical reason for investors to be interested in our game if we keep having clubs failing/folding (NZ Knights and both Queensland clubs). We all want a proper football pyramid with hopefully soon a second division, which means hopefully more professional football clubs being introduced. Some of those would require investors for the step up, facility improvements/upgrades, transition from semi to professional environment, and importantly, for clubs to be ambitious and grow. If we have 12 successful and financially sustainable clubs in our top division, it looks more attractive for investors, as well as broadcasters/streaming companies, to be interested in football here, compared to a league with four. I don't think WU was anyone's ideal choice with expansion (outside of the FFA), but they're here and like the situation with Newcastle Jets and Central Coast, we need them to become sustainable and successful. If and when the second division comes in, they're not good enough, the football structure will sort that out. But for now, we need all clubs to be doing well.
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Waz - 6 Dec 2020 9:23 AM
Melbcityguy - 6 Dec 2020 9:03 AM

To be fair he’s not alone; I’ve never seen such passionate opposition to a club as WU are getting. 

I am sure I am not alone in saying that the whole WU bidding process now looks to have been highly suspect, not the least because their "shovel ready" stadium evaporated as soon as their bid was accepted by FFA.  

A homeless club without supporters or a stadium.   Yeah, great idea.
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CS - 6 Dec 2020 11:21 AM
Waz - 6 Dec 2020 9:23 AM

I am sure I am not alone in saying that the whole WU bidding process now looks to have been highly suspect, not the least because their "shovel ready" stadium evaporated as soon as their bid was accepted by FFA.  

A homeless club without supporters or a stadium.   Yeah, great idea.

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soccerfoo - 6 Dec 2020 8:27 AM
Friend lives in Weribee went and It was a gala day, chuvaps stand, kids running around. many outside the ground. Looked like a crowd as was reported. Alot of Croats, music.

Yeah I heard tbe same, Lots of Croatian families.... Who would have thought that the Croatian community in Geelong love soccer? Im gob smacked. Maybe the Western United faithful didnt open up their instafacebooks this week as they where noticably absent, wonder why the club was stating that they sold out the stadium when this evidently was a lie? Wonder if they lie about other things as well?
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CS - 6 Dec 2020 11:21 AM
Waz - 6 Dec 2020 9:23 AM

I am sure I am not alone in saying that the whole WU bidding process now looks to have been highly suspect, not the least because their "shovel ready" stadium evaporated as soon as their bid was accepted by FFA.  

A homeless club without supporters or a stadium.   Yeah, great idea.

Sshhh you might be branded a bitter as well....
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Waz - 6 Dec 2020 9:23 AM
Melbcityguy - 6 Dec 2020 9:03 AM

To be fair he’s not alone; I’ve never seen such passionate opposition to a club as WU are getting. 
After 15 years of being stepped over, WU is the straw that broke the camel's back for me. To lose our 3rd bid for an A league license to this scummy bullshit ... no words. To miss out to Wollongong or Canberra or even that smoke and mirrors shit Stamoulis and Belteky where trying to peddle down in Hobart, I could have lived with but this collection of crooks is too much. Aparently Andrew Zinnis' son, after being kicked out of every NPL team in Victoria is now their latest recruit.... Instead of setting up their own womens program the latest shithousery is that the have "formed an alliance" with Calder United a youngish womens only club in WNPL so that they dont have to soend any money themselves..... 
MCG, mate I actually admire your enthusiasm too budy but you are wrong. Western United failing does not affect Australian football in anyway at all, its like pulling off a bandaid. Best done sooner rather than later because when, in 3-4 years time, when the land isnt selling, there is no train station and the stadium is still a bunch of renders and Autocad drawings, the plug will be pulled and all the dirty water will drain into the sewers of Werribee. I feel sorry for that guy with the Yosemite Sam mustache and his Save Hakeem banners.


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CS - 6 Dec 2020 11:21 AM
Waz - 6 Dec 2020 9:23 AM

I am sure I am not alone in saying that the whole WU bidding process now looks to have been highly suspect, not the least because their "shovel ready" stadium evaporated as soon as their bid was accepted by FFA.  

A homeless club without supporters or a stadium.   Yeah, great idea.

It is certainly disappointing to see how things have panned out on the stadium front, but it still appears that they will have a dedicated training base and progress on stadium quicker than any other A-League club has managed to achieve. 

I do think the proponents of the Western bid certainly need lessons on their sales pitch, as the reality has in no way matched what we all heard from them over and over. This set expectations very high, and as time went on the loss of confidence in delivering on promise has really been hard to overcome. 

The news that WU had partnered with Calder United to develop their W-League team for the future is promising though. Calder have been a very strong club, and give a solid base for WU to build on.

With the Independent A-League coming though, the comments about ensuring all clubs survive is key. We need to all hope that clubs can survive and grow for the future, with continued development of the structure to include new clubs.. 

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Heart_fan - 6 Dec 2020 10:31 PM
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It is certainly disappointing to see how things have panned out on the stadium front, but it still appears that they will have a dedicated training base and progress on stadium quicker than any other A-League club has managed to achieve. 

I do think the proponents of the Western bid certainly need lessons on their sales pitch, as the reality has in no way matched what we all heard from them over and over. This set expectations very high, and as time went on the loss of confidence in delivering on promise has really been hard to overcome. 

The news that WU had partnered with Calder United to develop their W-League team for the future is promising though. Calder have been a very strong club, and give a solid base for WU to build on.

With the Independent A-League coming though, the comments about ensuring all clubs survive is key. We need to all hope that clubs can survive and grow for the future, with continued development of the structure to include new clubs.. 

I disagree mate, their sales pitch to FFA was perfect,  no need for lessons. They got the license they needed to convince the council to give them the land for free didnt they? 
Dont worry about clubs surviving for the future, most of the 1000+ clubs in Australia have been around for decades, some even going back 80 -90 years... its only some of the franchises that may not make it.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 6 Dec 2020 10:42 PM
Heart_fan - 6 Dec 2020 10:31 PM

I disagree mate, their sales pitch to FFA was perfect,  no need for lessons. They got the license they needed to convince the council to give them the land for free didnt they? 
Dont worry about clubs surviving for the future, most of the 1000+ clubs in Australia have been around for decades, some even going back 80 -90 years... its only some of the franchises that may not make it.

Sales pitch to fans, not the FFA was my main concern. 

Of course anyone can spin something in a bid, but going about it in that way just leads to disengaged fans when nothing a club promises seems to be delivered. I am hopeful they can build a good fan base once they can get their stadium and training base built though, but until then it’s going to be hard work. 

As for the comments about the franchises, the failure of clubs in the A-League is a huge issue, whether there are 1000’s of clubs in other competitions or not. Like it or not, the A-League clubs need to survive and we need to build from there, not try and hope for their demise. Too much negative talk in the game already without some pushing an agenda that suits their own narrative. 

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Heart_fan - 6 Dec 2020 11:44 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 6 Dec 2020 10:42 PM

Sales pitch to fans, not the FFA was my main concern. 

Of course anyone can spin something in a bid, but going about it in that way just leads to disengaged fans when nothing a club promises seems to be delivered. I am hopeful they can build a good fan base once they can get their stadium and training base built though, but until then it’s going to be hard work. 

As for the comments about the franchises, the failure of clubs in the A-League is a huge issue, whether there are 1000’s of clubs in other competitions or not. Like it or not, the A-League clubs need to survive and we need to build from there, not try and hope for their demise. Too much negative talk in the game already without some pushing an agenda that suits their own narrative. 

Mate their sales pitch to fans was an afterthought. It may be your concern but clearly not theirs. Name, colours, location are all irrelevant to these investors, its all a land grab. They set up a "poll" to ask their potential fan base what they should be called and then went ahead with "Western United" anyway with a colour scheme indicative of the asphalt and green nature strips of the housing development they plan to build, their logo even has a pitched roof to reflect the 1000s of houses they plan to build on the land they have been virtually gifted.... 
The failure of A-league clubs IS NOT a huge issue for the game here, just an issue for the A-League owners and the professional game. Some can't see the forest for the trees. Even if they all fold we will still have a very strong participation rate and lots of other clubs for our talented youngsters to play in and develop to hopefully represent the Socceroos and Matildas on the world stage. Yes there will be a serious lack of money in the game, like there was before, but its not as if the A-League has been focused on the national good for the sport here for 15 years anyway so what will change?
Anyway, the A-League clubs have their independence (or at least soon will)  so happy to give them the benefit of the doubt and see how much they now choose to engage with the 1000s of soccer supporters in this country that aren't existing customers. Its not negative talk that appears to be the problem, more the lack of positive action. 
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