Are our batsmen shit against spin, our spinners shit or both?

We don't play a lot on spinning decks. Not when players are young.

The question remains.

Mostly Batsmen don't adapt well.

Other countries have far more experienced spin bowers to pick from.

India developing quicks show how it is done, then batsmen get experience.

I loved it when the SCG and Adelaide used to spin, seam in Brisbane, bounce in Perth and a bit of a lottery in Melbourne, at shield level batsmen got tested in all conditions.

Now 20/20  is the priority, that eventually shows up a test level.

The question remains. I know all the reasons and excuses.

I said it is mainly the batters.

But my answer included what could be done about it, play regular long form cricket on pitches that spin.

And play long form on wickets with swing, bounce and seam.

The game also needs a base which is grade and district cricket. I don't know for sure, but I think that has dropped off.

For young kids, bats and other gear cost a fortune these days.

There are no quick fixes and no way of going back to the past, this is it now.

Go blues - and let Jimmy Graham visit Billy Slater 

Carn the Blues!!!…

Kidding the maroons aren't being given every opportunity. That Tino is a fcking thug.

What about the dog that held Burton while Gagai punched him? Officialdom at its worst 

How come that cvnt Tino is allowed to stay on.

NSw trying to lose. Pass by Luau then Crichton

NSW can hold their heads up  that was one of the grubbiest SOO I can remember. They had enough possession and field position to win 10 games.

Mdog, maybe too many penriff players. Now I hope Gus realises that Freddy is NOT the coach for us.

Fekking QLDers… 

Well I did say give me 17 halfbacks any day 9f the week instead of forwards....

I can't  believe they  didn't  use Burton's  kicking game more.

Can we just offer Munster and Hunt 1.2M a season and see who bites?

Third man in, holds a guy while his teamate belts the shit out of him and stays on.

As I said Mdog grubbiest SOO in ages and I am convinced too many pamfers and sucked in to freddy for ommitting the fox.

I blame Burto for that. He should have pushed his way infield. He was rattled after the punch up.

However he still tried hard and played a tough game. He is going to be one of the greatest. 

I thought he did ok, buts it's fairly clear that Luai is the better or at least more natural playmaker -  hence why Penrith chose him in the 6.

Kicking and tactical master-stroke from DCE tonight. 

He knew both teams went high on intensity in first half and with 1 rotation down, NSW would have slow forwards on kick returns, so he just kept kicking on 3rd and 4th tackle with some ripper kicks that found space or were allowed to bounce and made NSW work it for 3 or 4 tackles before their forwards were back onside.

On the other side, Ponga really stood up and along with Corey Oates and Val Holmes, got QLD sets off to a good start.

Is the lack of shoulders being used in tackles creating more exposure to head collisions ???
I've never seen anything like the start to origin 3 and allbeit unlucky would players be going in with the head if they could draw on side on?
It was whiplash that was the main characteristic to prevent shoulder charges being used..
It really does make you think about the amount of head contact that has been made through friendly fire..
I guess the brute force involved takes the shoulder charge out of the game these days but at least you used to be able to brace and tense..
It's quite sickening to see these kids out to it

The difference was execution in attack and a few misses in defence.

Most NSW plsyers played well and deserve tomkeep their spots.

But if Turbo and Latrell are fit they should be the first choice NSW centres. Assuming Teddy is playing.

Wighton or Burton for 5/8, if Burto then Wighton on the bench.

NSW did revert to too much ball movement.

Cook hasn't had much impact in this series, Appi a way better option.

Burto rarely got an opportunity to run the ball and he rarely got an opportunity to kick. If he is in the team then he needs more ball.

The problem is urgency to make the tackle, lots of bodies moving fast at the collision point, defenders not having the time to check what other defenders are doing.

The best bet is the first 2 defenders always tackle above the waist, players might be bumped off or pushed off.

Only go, low when you think it is a one-on-one.

Defenders don't have a lot of time to think , mostly reactions are instincts.

Trying to hit hard with the shoulder could hit the attacker or a defender in the head. Players using their shoulder need control and a good aim.

I am sure coaches and players will work on this, but it is a tough problem.

I think going high with the priority of locking the ball up is a contributor

Though Mdog that is partially the refs fault for lettig a tackle go on forever and tempting the attacking player to try and offload.

It's the 10 metres mate. They slow it all up to let the defenders get back the 10. As the coaches worked it out the time became inhabited by the wrestle. Typical RL logic. Separate them 10 metres to open up the game then slow it down by allowing PTB hold downs 

So what do you do... re-introduce the 5 metres rule and let them rip into each other... at least that will eliminate the wrestling.