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LFC. - 7 Mar 2024 9:47 AM
someguyjc - 7 Mar 2024 9:34 AM

I agree but yes thats the world we live in today BUT I would never ever call a cop in his/her/it face a bastard let alone add their colour......and I brought up my kids the same, respect authority no matter the issues.
This is dumb dumb and dumber behaviour by her tbh.

Absolutely it's a dumb thing for her to do, but a criminal charge? A small on the spot fine would suffice.
If only that same law was enforced to all the people who have posted homophobic comments to Kerr on social media.

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LFC. - 7 Mar 2024 9:47 AM
someguyjc - 7 Mar 2024 9:34 AM

I agree but yes thats the world we live in today BUT I would never ever call a cop in his/her/it face a bastard let alone add their colour......and I brought up my kids the same, respect authority no matter the issues.
This is dumb dumb and dumber behaviour by her tbh.

Ive been called a wog to me face by a cop mate, quite a few times actually.... still didnt take the bait...  Sam was just pissed and who knows what this noddy said to her, still doesn't excuse here dumbness, should have just called him a dumb bastard and left it at that, this race card will see her punished as an example now..... 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 7 Mar 2024 9:57 AM
SUTHERLANDBEAR - 7 Mar 2024 9:46 AM

Gotta agree with this... People would be up in arms if anyone called her "black' "brown" "lezzo" or anything..... 

Being plastered, spewing in a cab and calling a copper a bastard would be forgivable (at least from a public opinion perspective) but throwing the "White" thing in there is just dumb. I wonder how here fiancee, her team mates and their families feel about what she really feels about them as  "whites"

And the national front, Chelsea supporters !
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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 7 Mar 2024 10:09 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 7 Mar 2024 9:57 AM

And the national front, Chelsea supporters !

Didnt wanna go down that path but yep agreed. 

Chelsea (the club) came out this morning with a statement saying they fully support her but the fans could turn feral over the coming months..... 
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I respect Sam Kerr immensely as she is an incredible ambassador for our sport, but I cant defend what she said to the police officer.

If you go in public and say something rude to a police officer you are asking for trouble especially in a foreign country.
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someguyjc - 7 Mar 2024 9:34 AM
Enzo Bearzot - 6 Mar 2024 10:24 PM

Wow, a criminal charge for that. What an age we live in.

The rules are different in each country, I'm usually conscious when I travel overseas because the rules and customs are different to here.

Ok the UK is similar to Australia but it doesn't mean its right to act or speak the same like you do here in Oz.

I still see too many Oz tourists acting the same way when I travel overseas and I cringe of their lack of awareness. 

In terms of Sam, she's been in the UK for the last couple of years so maybe a lack of awareness? 


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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-25/daniel-kerr-ex-west-coast-eagles-afl-star-jailed-for-arson/102378692#old news

old news from last year popped up elsewhere whilst looking into other news, that old saying the apples don't don't fall far from the tree.


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Certainly what Kerr has allegedly said is just not on in this day and age, and she should rightly be pulled up on it. Apparently the charge though is that Kerr is accused of "using insulting, threatening or abusive words that caused alarm or distress to the officer". The words are insulting and abusive, but would they really cause the (apparently male) officer alarm or distress?
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Keeper66 - 7 Mar 2024 11:53 AM
Certainly what Kerr has allegedly said is just not on in this day and age, and she should rightly be pulled up on it. Apparently the charge though is that Kerr is accused of "using insulting, threatening or abusive words that caused alarm or distress to the officer". The words are insulting and abusive, but would they really cause the (apparently male) officer alarm or distress?

I agree but we are in a whole new world as some have mentioned.
Put it this way, IF it were similar words towards another colour imagine the usual outrage, maybe its white power standing up in this day and age as a first.
Maybe thats what the copper/s feel as such, lord knows.


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It's either OK to use colour as an epithet or it's not.

Weird watching people saying 'this is great, she spewed in a cab and called a copper a white bastard'.

Big fan of the Matildas and Kerr but pretty much dumb behaviour by her. As my mum would say, disappointing.

Having said that these 2 articles made me laugh.

https://theshovel.com.au/2024/03/07/sam-kerr-named-australian-of-the-year/
https://theshovel.com.au/2024/03/07/sam-kerr-expresses-regret-at-calling-english-cop-bastard/



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lol....

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You're all wrong: Sam Kerr is the victim here, not the cop.

As Lucy Zelic tells us the real issue here is that  a white, male police officer is accusing a lesbian, female footballer of Indian heritage of racism

Therefore its the police officer who is the racist, not Sam Kerr.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/if-sam-kerr-was-a-straight-white-housewife-would-she-stand-accused-of-racism-20240306-p5faf7.html?js-chunk-not-found-refresh=true

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Enzo Bearzot - 7 Mar 2024 12:32 PM
You're all wrong: Sam Kerr is the victim here, not the cop.

As Lucy Zelic tells us the real issue here is that  a white, male police officer is accusing a lesbian, female footballer of Indian heritage of racism

Therefore its the police officer who is the racist, not Sam Kerr.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/if-sam-kerr-was-a-straight-white-housewife-would-she-stand-accused-of-racism-20240306-p5faf7.html?js-chunk-not-found-refresh=true

Yeah but do you know what she knows?


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Enzo Bearzot - 7 Mar 2024 12:32 PM
You're all wrong: Sam Kerr is the victim here, not the cop.

As Lucy Zelic tells us the real issue here is that  a white, male police officer is accusing a lesbian, female footballer of Indian heritage of racism

Therefore its the police officer who is the racist, not Sam Kerr.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/if-sam-kerr-was-a-straight-white-housewife-would-she-stand-accused-of-racism-20240306-p5faf7.html?js-chunk-not-found-refresh=true

I can only see the headline, but just based on that I would say that if the words "straight white" were left out then the headline may be closer to the mark.
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Keeper66 - 7 Mar 2024 12:56 PM
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I can only see the headline, but just based on that I would say that if the words "straight white" were left out then the headline may be closer to the mark.

Drop the link into this.  https://12ft.io/


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That is not how racism works in the 21st century. Nigger is not a race, but is racist if anyone except a black person says it.

That’s a complete contradiction to what I said. 
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Enzo Bearzot - 7 Mar 2024 12:32 PM
You're all wrong: Sam Kerr is the victim here, not the cop.

As Lucy Zelic tells us the real issue here is that  a white, male police officer is accusing a lesbian, female footballer of Indian heritage of racism

Therefore its the police officer who is the racist, not Sam Kerr.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/if-sam-kerr-was-a-straight-white-housewife-would-she-stand-accused-of-racism-20240306-p5faf7.html?js-chunk-not-found-refresh=true

zelic is embarrassing 
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Keeper66 - 7 Mar 2024 12:56 PM

Drop the link into this.  https://12ft.io/

Thanks mate
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Keeper66 - 7 Mar 2024 11:53 AM
Certainly what Kerr has allegedly said is just not on in this day and age, and she should rightly be pulled up on it. Apparently the charge though is that Kerr is accused of "using insulting, threatening or abusive words that caused alarm or distress to the officer". The words are insulting and abusive, but would they really cause the (apparently male) officer alarm or distress?

I can almost guarantee you we aren't getting the full quote. It was probably more likely "ill fucking smash your face in you stupid white bastard"

She has threatened violence in the WSL multiple times. Violent people are violent people yo u cant change em - https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/09/sam-kerr-knocks-pitch-invader-to-ground-during-champions-league-match
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jas88 - 7 Mar 2024 4:00 PM
Keeper66 - 7 Mar 2024 11:53 AM

I can almost guarantee you we aren't getting the full quote. It was probably more likely "ill fucking smash your face in you stupid white bastard"

She has threatened violence in the WSL multiple times. Violent people are violent people yo u cant change em - https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/09/sam-kerr-knocks-pitch-invader-to-ground-during-champions-league-match

And if those allegations from DeVanna are true then yeah, maybe... 
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jas88 - 7 Mar 2024 4:00 PM
Keeper66 - 7 Mar 2024 11:53 AM

I can almost guarantee you we aren't getting the full quote. It was probably more likely "ill fucking smash your face in you stupid white bastard"

She has threatened violence in the WSL multiple times. Violent people are violent people yo u cant change em - https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/09/sam-kerr-knocks-pitch-invader-to-ground-during-champions-league-match

Fuck me you have an axe to grind by the sounds of it. That shoulder bump was a thing of beauty. If that's 'violent' what do you think of Andrew Symonds ironing out this bloke?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ctp8JXWs4 

And if you think Kerr's competitiveness is equivalent to 'violence' wait until you find out about Katie McCabe. https://twitter.com/yellows4KM15


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Monoethnic Social Club - 7 Mar 2024 4:42 PM
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And if those allegations from DeVanna are true then yeah, maybe... 

I've seen this trotted out heaps of times but is it true?

Devanna is 9 years older than Kerr. Devanna's comments were about grooming. Can someone 9 years your junior 'groom' you?

Devanna was a fixture in the NT for 4 years before Kerr made her debut.

I'm not saying it didn't happen and I'm sure Devanna has valid grievances but circumstantially at least it doesn't add up.

Yes I realise younger people can bully older people. 


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Who the F. she thinks she is!

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NSW premier, has come out and said that this is a nonsense, and that he has been called worse. One of his ministers has said in NO WAY is this racism. 

Fuck me , where do you start with shite like this. We all know what it means the other way about.
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And out comes the gender card:  https://www.theage.com.au/sport/is-white-bastard-racist-the-divided-reactions-to-sam-kerr-racism-allegation-20240307-p5fajg.html

Sports diversity expert Rana Hussain believes the reaction to the alleged incident has been intensified because of the way the public perceives women’s sports.....“It’s also how the culture views women – I think it is says something about our expectations of women, and the freedom we do or don’t give them to be who they are.


I guess she means we dont give the freedom for women to be their racist selves, like we do men? 

Because if a drunk Matt Ryan called a black police officer a "stupid black bitch",  everyone would be ok with that.


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I've seen this trotted out heaps of times but is it true?

Devanna is 9 years older than Kerr. Devanna's comments were about grooming. Can someone 9 years your junior 'groom' you?

Devanna was a fixture in the NT for 4 years before Kerr made her debut.

I'm not saying it didn't happen and I'm sure Devanna has valid grievances but circumstantially at least it doesn't add up.

Yes I realise younger people can bully older people. 


Australia's second-highest goalscorer in senior internationals, De Vanna says the incidents date back to 2001 when she joined the Young Matildas squad as a 17-year-old.

- 'Heartbroken' Lisa De Vanna walks away from football

"I was pulled down from behind and dry-h-----d by a few of my teammates," De Vanna told News Corp.

"I fought my way off the floor kicking and screaming.

"They thought it was funny. I was just a young kid from Perth, I didn't know any different. I lost my shit and wanted to punch them.

"Have I been sexually harassed? Yes. Have I been bullied? Yes. Ostracised? Yes. Have I seen things that have made me uncomfortable? Yes.

"In any sporting organisation and in any environment, grooming, preying and unprofessional behaviour makes me sick.

"As a youngster and a player I didn't know how to address this ... but it is still happening across all levels and it's time to speak up."

https://www.espn.com.au/football/story/_/id/37621344/football-australia-responds-lisa-de-vanna-allegations-sexual-abuse


In a statement released on Thursday afternoon, Sports Integrity Australia confirmed it was looking into two matters from the 27 submissions it had received, while a further three cases have been referred to police because they included information that could warrant criminal investigation, but will not be explored further by Sports Integrity Australia because they fell outside the scope of the process.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/sports-integrity-australia-to-investigate-two-claims-from-process-sparked-by-de-vanna-20220526-p5aosu.html





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Australia's second-highest goalscorer in senior internationals, De Vanna says the incidents date back to 2001 when she joined the Young Matildas squad as a 17-year-old.

- 'Heartbroken' Lisa De Vanna walks away from football

"I was pulled down from behind and dry-h-----d by a few of my teammates," De Vanna told News Corp.

"I fought my way off the floor kicking and screaming.

"They thought it was funny. I was just a young kid from Perth, I didn't know any different. I lost my shit and wanted to punch them.

"Have I been sexually harassed? Yes. Have I been bullied? Yes. Ostracised? Yes. Have I seen things that have made me uncomfortable? Yes.

"In any sporting organisation and in any environment, grooming, preying and unprofessional behaviour makes me sick.

"As a youngster and a player I didn't know how to address this ... but it is still happening across all levels and it's time to speak up."

https://www.espn.com.au/football/story/_/id/37621344/football-australia-responds-lisa-de-vanna-allegations-sexual-abuse


In a statement released on Thursday afternoon, Sports Integrity Australia confirmed it was looking into two matters from the 27 submissions it had received, while a further three cases have been referred to police because they included information that could warrant criminal investigation, but will not be explored further by Sports Integrity Australia because they fell outside the scope of the process.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/sports-integrity-australia-to-investigate-two-claims-from-process-sparked-by-de-vanna-20220526-p5aosu.html


So Kerr was 8 when that happened to Devanna. What's that got to do with Kerr?



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Munrubenmuz - 7 Mar 2024 10:36 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 7 Mar 2024 9:45 PM

So Kerr was 8 when that happened to Devanna. What's that got to do with Kerr?


I thought you were replying to the allegations that De Vanna made and they were untrue

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White's can't be victims of racism..tell that to us wogs, mate :

First, calling a white person a “stupid white bastard” is not the same as calling a black person a “stupid black bastard”. As the Alberta Civil Liberties Research Centre explains, racial prejudice may be directed towards white people (e.g. as in “white people can’t dance” or “all white people are racists”) but it is not racism because the comment is not ingrained with a systematic abuse of power


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Enzo Bearzot - 8 Mar 2024 8:15 AM
Munrubenmuz - 7 Mar 2024 10:36 PM


I thought you were replying to the allegations that De Vanna made and they were untrue

All good. I said this.

I'm not saying it didn't happen and I'm sure Devanna has valid grievances but circumstantially at least it doesn't add up.



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