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jas88 - 13 Apr 2024 10:13 AM
another worldie from Irankunda lol... its becoming a joke now our best australian player aint playing for any of the national teams its fucking insane.

he's not far off Kewell in my opinion. 

Where do you reckon his best position is? Left or right? 
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jas88 - 13 Apr 2024 10:13 AM
another worldie from Irankunda lol... its becoming a joke now our best australian player aint playing for any of the national teams its fucking insane.

he's not far off Kewell in my opinion. 

Harry was the closest we had to a world class outfield player. Unfortunately his career was marred by injury. 

I would put him in more of the Garang Kuol class. They both have heaps to do. I hope they both have a career as good as Harry's (without the injuries). Then we may start asking who is the next Nestory or who is the next Garang rather than who is the next Harry  

 
  Games Goals Assists Minutes Mins per goal  Mins per goal contribution  Birth Date  Leaving Leaving date  Age When leaving 
Nestory 57 15 8 2243 150 98 9/02/2006 26/05/2024 18 years 3.5 months
Garang  17 6 4 531 89 53 15/09/2004 1/01/2023 18 years 2.5 months



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grazorblade - 12 Apr 2024 8:35 PM
Barca4Life - 12 Apr 2024 8:01 PM

Indeed the dark ages of youth development are finally ending

Based on what I have seen in recent youth teams the average technical level should close to being on par with most Asian and European nations from now on. 

I think the purpose of the NC was to improve the technical and tactical base which caused confusion and misunderstanding in the early years, their will always be outliners of course but it at least from now on we should compete more technically whilst maintaining the other strong attributes which we are good at. 

But indeed the dark days are probably over. 

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Quicky - 13 Apr 2024 11:46 AM
jas88 - 13 Apr 2024 10:13 AM

Where do you reckon his best position is? Left or right? 

I dont know part of his game is his ability to play on either side, I just think its insane. Every time he touch's the ball even if it looks like going no where he draws in 3 or 4 players and creates space/chances for other. The asian teams in our qualifying would panic every time he touched the ball and when beating a packed defense this extra movement makes it so much easier.

I just think we genuinely have a weapon that other teams would be scared to play against this opens space for our other guys to shine too. 

Its just hit shooting that reminds me of kewell so much not the finesse type finish but just the power not many aussie strikers can hit it like they do.
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All starts tomorrow. Time to get going. 
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johnszasz - 14 Apr 2024 11:18 PM
All starts tomorrow. Time to get going. 

Can't believe it. Waited for this for 2 years. 
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bbouy - 15 Apr 2024 2:31 AM
johnszasz - 14 Apr 2024 11:18 PM

Can't believe it. Waited for this for 2 years. 

The wait just makes the stakes higher. Havent felt like this nervous since the south korea semi in the asian cup. Football has that ability to turn fans into a nervous wreck doesnt it
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grazorblade - 15 Apr 2024 2:34 AM
bbouy - 15 Apr 2024 2:31 AM

The wait just makes the stakes higher. Havent felt like this nervous since the south korea semi in the asian cup. Football has that ability to turn fans into a nervous wreck doesnt it

The last 2 WC qualifying saw me running numbers through my head every time I went for a walk. If Saudi stuff that and we win or maybe Oman can beat Japan. If only we hadn't drawn in Thailand....
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Predictions for lineups?

I'm thinking 
................................Hall...........................................
Italiano..........Girdwood-Reich........Natta.........Farrell
...............................Teague..............................
.............Segecic.........................Hollman.......
......Brook.............................................Milanovic
................................Alou..................................

Will be something along the lines of this. Personally, I wouldn't choose this lineup but I think this is what they'll do.

I prefer: Jelacic over Segecic, Toure over Alou and maybe Garang over Brook.  I just think Segecic, Alou and Brook are all defensive lineups as they're all really good at pressing and tracking back, but I think against a likely more defensive side in Jordan we need to be more explosive from the get-go. 




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bbouy - 15 Apr 2024 3:42 AM
Predictions for lineups?

I'm thinking 
................................Hall...........................................
Italiano..........Girdwood-Reich........Natta.........Farrell
...............................Teague..............................
.............Segecic.........................Hollman.......
......Brook.............................................Milanovic
................................Alou..................................

Will be something along the lines of this. Personally, I wouldn't choose this lineup but I think this is what they'll do.

I prefer: Jelacic over Segecic, Toure over Alou and maybe Garang over Brook.  I just think Segecic, Alou and Brook are all defensive lineups as they're all really good at pressing and tracking back, but I think against a likely more defensive side in Jordan we need to be more explosive from the get-go. 




Tricky thing about lineups is we dont know when, how and how much rotation there will be.

If we make the quarters my side is

--------------------hall---------------
Talbot----jgr----popa--farrel-
-------------teague-hollman-
------------------jelacic/segecic-
-milanovic-toure-kuol------
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bbouy - 15 Apr 2024 3:42 AM
Predictions for lineups?

I'm thinking 
................................Hall...........................................
Italiano..........Girdwood-Reich........Natta.........Farrell
...............................Teague..............................
.............Segecic.........................Hollman.......
......Brook.............................................Milanovic
................................Alou..................................

Will be something along the lines of this. Personally, I wouldn't choose this lineup but I think this is what they'll do.

I prefer: Jelacic over Segecic, Toure over Alou and maybe Garang over Brook.  I just think Segecic, Alou and Brook are all defensive lineups as they're all really good at pressing and tracking back, but I think against a likely more defensive side in Jordan we need to be more explosive from the get-go. 




Feel like segecic is a more aggressive choice as his best qualities are on the ball
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johnszasz - 15 Apr 2024 2:36 AM
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The last 2 WC qualifying saw me running numbers through my head every time I went for a walk. If Saudi stuff that and we win or maybe Oman can beat Japan. If only we hadn't drawn in Thailand....

Peru gave me that 2006 feeling

Started each game feeling depressed there was no way would make it, belief grew more with each minute passing, a big player bottling a penalty making me think here we go again then the sheer joy of qualifying

Mooy was absolutely immense with his rhythm changes. Everytime peru had momentum or the crowd got involve he would kill the game for a few minutes stroking it around then accelerate the game when we were emotionally back in control. As immense effect as guus hiddink despite being a player, to take nothing from arnie who did a very fine job
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grazorblade - 15 Apr 2024 4:03 AM
bbouy - 15 Apr 2024 3:42 AM

Feel like segecic is a more aggressive choice as his best qualities are on the ball

Yes but also I think Jelacic is better on the ball and a better passer but Segecic brings the intensity and very good pressure. He runs the whole game where Jelacic can be lazy sometimes. Both pretty good options at the 10. 
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I trust Youtube will have livestreams. Surely official ones at that. It seems Vietnam TV channel V5 is showing the game. Maybe without a login or subscription so that could be an emergency workaround. 
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johnszasz - 15 Apr 2024 5:51 PM
I trust Youtube will have livestreams. Surely official ones at that. It seems Vietnam TV channel V5 is showing the game. Maybe without a login or subscription so that could be an emergency workaround. 

On Paramount+ thankfully for me. If you can't find a stream, i'll try to find one for you guys closer to the game. 
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bbouy - 15 Apr 2024 6:54 PM
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On Paramount+ thankfully for me. If you can't find a stream, i'll try to find one for you guys closer to the game. 

so it won't be on channel 10 main channel?
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grazorblade - 15 Apr 2024 7:02 PM
bbouy - 15 Apr 2024 6:54 PM

so it won't be on channel 10 main channel?

nah it isn't.
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Team out: 

Beach
Talbot
JCP
Popovic
Farrell
Teague
Youlley
Hollman
Milanovic
Brook
Alou

Rotation is key in this type of squad and that's clearly the methodology we are using
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I finish work at kick off. Got to get off on the right foot. 
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bbouy - 15 Apr 2024 9:50 PM
Team out: 

Beach
Talbot
JCP
Popovic
Farrell
Teague
Youlley
Hollman
Milanovic
Brook
Alou

Rotation is key in this type of squad and that's clearly the methodology we are using

Lineup is alright and pretty balanced but the defence does worry me with Talbot, JCP and Popovic and especially with Beach behind them who I don't really trust.
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Lots of good players on the bench, seems like we may be saving our better team for the game against Indonesia which I think is our hardest opponent in the group.
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bbouy - 15 Apr 2024 9:56 PM
Lots of good players on the bench, seems like we may be saving our better team for the game against Indonesia which I think is our hardest opponent in the group.

6 or 7 of our best xi imo
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grazorblade - 15 Apr 2024 10:01 PM
bbouy - 15 Apr 2024 9:56 PM

6 or 7 of our best xi imo

Agreed. I think Natta, Hall, JGR, Kuol, Toure, Italiano, Jelacic/Segecic could all join that lineup. Game by game rotation is a smart move but need to be a bit more top heavy against better competition. If we come up against SK/Japan we have to use our best team because that game is literally the whole tournament and cycle in one 90 minute moment. 
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It takes me 10 to 15 games to assess a player

Those with more of an eagle eye than me, how good is youlley compared to our other midfielders?
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usual streams working

would love an english speaking stream but oh well
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our sydney 2000 olympic squad was insane. How did we struggle so much?
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Great playing surface and not overly hot like usual underage Asian tournaments. 
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I wonder how many paramount plus free trials will get me through this tournament 
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grazorblade - 15 Apr 2024 10:52 PM
usual streams working

would love an english speaking stream but oh well

Just use the free trial
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Jordan players look quick 
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