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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think that our recruitment and retention is going to be similar to Penrith from now on,. Mostly we will be promoting players from the lower grades to the top 30. From now on the squad should remain fairly stable. A lot of the experienced players Gus recruited are on 2 year contacts, I think that most see out the full 2 years, but only 50% of them may be extended. Key players are given longer deals. So it will mostly be experienced older off contract players being replaced by new inexperienced lower grade players each season. But not all at once, young guys will be added when they are ready. Usually a season of reserve grade after Flegg for most players. If we have the junior talent it’s a great strategy. Unfortunately our junior base is small and doesn’t have much talent. Unlike Penrith who consistently have great juniors pushing through.
To fix this. We really should expand our junior area further south. Having my a good presence all the way to Cambletown would be ideal. Just keep putting money into junior clubs. The goal being to take most of the South West. We are scouting juniors outside our district, QLD, NSW north coast, NZ. Even Penrith scout playes. Our Flegg side made the GF, some good players in that side and a few in reserve grade that didn't get a run this year. The only position where I am not 100% sure we have good players coming through is hooker. Of course if we can get a talented and experienced player for a good price, we should sign them. I think that no one has signed RCG yet, out of the sides that made the semis Dogs are one of the few that might have the cap space. Eels are probably reluctant to tip in some money, but other clubs are reluctant to pay full freight. In our case if we sack JAC we have money to spend, and don't need to worry how much his next contract is for. I am simply repeating what Gus has said about recruitment this year and our general approach to recruitment. I know. But Gus lies all the time. I’m confident he is looking at signing a number of players with experience.
RCG would be a great start. Maybe another centre/winger/fullback type. And another prop. Keep the spine settled and add a little and we make top four with a good run with no injuries and a decent draw. Names that have been mentioned are RCG and Karapani from the Broncos. If Fox goes I can see us signing both. The longer it goes without RCG signing elsewhere the more chance we are of signing him. Talley-ho was also mentioned and he was mentioned this time last year. I lot of these signing rumours don't come true, I think c,ubs and player managers are talking but they talk to others and take the best option. If we sack Fox that apparently is 500K of salary freed up, RCG is rumoured to be on 700K at Parra. Parra paying 200-300K next year for RCG to play for the Dogs and RCG having a big game when we beat them, I would love to see that. The Parra are probably on the hook for needing to chip in foe RCG next season, it is important not to let them off. The fact that it is taking a while to get a deal done shows most clubs are thinking along similar lines. Souths or the Dragons might contenders to sign RCG and might be prepared to pay more... Talley-ho was a great player in his prime, but that was years ago. If RCG is on 700k at Parra, i cant see them paying more than 150-200max to play elsewhere.... You have to remember that if they pay him 200k to play elsewhere and then fork out another 200-300k on a replacement player, they'll be spending around 500k for a prop position which is only 200k relief of their cap to spend on someone else. Do you think saving 200k but losing a forward of RCG status is worth it? Theyd better have high prospects of the 300k forward they replace him with. Or they better have good use of that 200k SC relief. Otherwise its abit of a silly move on their part. I expect Parra to be in the bottom 4 clubs next year and if Moses misses more than 8 games, mark them down as wooden spoon favourites. Another poor season from Parra and i wouldn't be surprised if Moses wants out. A club like Parra only tries to offload a player like RCG when they have made a mess of thier Salary Cap. I think that the issue is too much money tied up in middle forwards when they are lacking depth in the outside backs. Moses, Brown and Gutho all on good money. Lomax probably demanded a salary that reflects his status as a SOO player. When some of the Parra forwards were signed/extended, they were SOO players. Aside from outside backs, Parra also need a hooker. I think their SC issues are from paying big on middles and then realising they need to spend big on outside backs. I dont think its a big deal to pay goid money on 2 of your 4 spine players....but you cant expect to do well if those 2 are out for any significant amount of time. Parras problem is the length of the Moses contract. Not are they paying him big money, any half in reserves has his career path blocked, so he wont hang around. And if Moses is out, the next man up is a nobody with hardly the ability to fill the role properly. They really needed to keep Moses' contract to 3 years so any decent junior under him can bide his time. If Moses hasnt missed a third of the last 2 seasons, they wouldnt be having such poor seasons Yes injuries to Moses and Brown are an issue... But when we beat them Moses and Brown both played, it was close to their full strength side, but they had a weakness at centre which we exploited. Long term contracts are a gamble. Manly has done something similar with DCE and that worked out. I definitely would have given Thurston a 10 year deal at the Dogs in 2004. If we did that, we probably have 2 more premierships in the bank. If Woods lives up to the hype then I don't mind a 10 year deal. It has to be for the best player and 1-2 players at the most. Halfback, fullback and prop are the only positions I would consider. Reserve 5/8 for young guys to start out in the NRL. Not prop. Never. In fact, never a forward. Maybe a hooker. Maybe. Half and FB are the only positions but even then, it has to be for a decent saving per year, averaged over 10 years, or unless there is a massive shortage of talent in that position. Props, second rowers, centres, wingers.....theres 2 or 3 or 4 in every team. There's no shortage. You want the best player, pay your 800-1M and hes yours. Top FB and halves are not thst common. There's only 1 spot in the team for them and are the only positions you can reasonably think about a long term deal, and even then, you should dismiss it. DCE has proven to be the exception. Worth it IMO. (Could be a few more) Props - Taumalolo, Tapine Halves :-Johns, Locker, Thurston, Cleary, Walker. DCE Fullback - Teddy, Slater, Edwards, Walsh, Turbo, Ponga Hooker- Api, Smith, probably Grant. Melbourne tends to keep key players without needing long term contracts. Absolutely essential for the Cows and Canberra to lock up key players on long term contracts.. Cows locking up Thurston and Taumalolo was the smartest thing they ever did. Most of their success including the premiership stems from that decision. I do agree that very few props are worth it, back in the day Artie Beatson is another. The prop has to have a big impact both sides of the ball, but particularly in attack, play long minutes and provide leadership that inspires their teammates. A lot if fans are sleeping on just how good Tapine is, if he leaves, Canberra will drop to the bottom of the table. In contrast a guy like Payne Hass is overrated IMO, good player but he doesn't change the result of games often, just plays his role well and races up impressive stats. Mostly I would sign a halfback and a Fullback before a prop, very few clubs will have a prop who is good enough or sufficiently unique. And the club has to do the deal early before the player has hit their peak, it is always a gamble. Tigers could gamble on Galvin and perhaps their fullback. The only risk is that the player on the long-term deal gets lazy. If the guy loves winning and hates losing, the risk is small. Injuries are another risk factor.
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+x+x+x+x+xAlways a laugh at this time of year hearing the daylight savings debate on the east coast... The birds had me up up at 501 this morning... And then there's those fekkers with wings... No DS in WA makes sense having spent plenty of time there .. that sun stays reflects for ever across that flat ocean... 😉 We need to put WA in our time zone for summer, but only on days when cricket is played. Other days the can be on UK time GMT. I like the final ball at 9pm thing... Or 11pm with Indias over rates... 6 day tests is the odvious solution... You dont need 5 days if you bowl first or declare early on day 1..... Just pick 10 fast bowlers and a wicket keeper batsman... 6 or out every shot, no need to bat for long.... Then bowl the out twice for less, book a function room at a club for the afternoon of the second day.
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Its a dark day for the Bulldogs.......
.....Hayze Perham is leaving and has signed for the Broncos....
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+xIts a dark day for the Bulldogs....... .....Hayze Perham is leaving and has signed for the Broncos.... Christmas in September!!!
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+xIts a dark day for the Bulldogs....... .....Hayze Perham is leaving and has signed for the Broncos.... Is this where I'm supposed to say "terrible decision by his and the assistant, watch him go on to play FB for Australia at a good club"???...
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+x+xIts a dark day for the Bulldogs....... .....Hayze Perham is leaving and has signed for the Broncos.... Is this where I'm supposed to say "terrible decision by his and the assistant, watch him go on to play FB for Australia at a good club"???... Well as long as we got Patty Cardigan in return, I am only slightly gutted. Perham is ok as a winger / centre, but shouldn't make the Broncos top 17.
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Next people will be saying Topine is leaving....
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+x+x+xIts a dark day for the Bulldogs....... .....Hayze Perham is leaving and has signed for the Broncos.... Is this where I'm supposed to say "terrible decision by his and the assistant, watch him go on to play FB for Australia at a good club"???... Well as long as we got Patty Cardigan in return, I am only slightly gutted. Perham is ok as a winger / centre, but shouldn't make the Broncos top 17. If you are in need of forced regurgitation, instead of shoving 2 fingers down your throat, just shove a video of Hayze in a sweeping backline movement from early 2023..... Around about the time he tries to cut back in, just let it all out..... (Insert vomit emoji)
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+x+x+x+xIts a dark day for the Bulldogs....... .....Hayze Perham is leaving and has signed for the Broncos.... Is this where I'm supposed to say "terrible decision by his and the assistant, watch him go on to play FB for Australia at a good club"???... Well as long as we got Patty Cardigan in return, I am only slightly gutted. Perham is ok as a winger / centre, but shouldn't make the Broncos top 17. If you are in need of forced regurgitation, instead of shoving 2 fingers down your throat, just shove a video of Hayze in a sweeping backline movement from early 2023..... Around about the time he tries to cut back in, just let it all out..... (Insert vomit emoji) Sounds like 'white party' I went to... and left early...
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Should I take the Broncos coaching job?
I'm thinking Hass to fullback and Walsh to prop and a $1 million early payout might be worth it?
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My prese conferences will feature why XXXX is a crap beer.
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+xShould I take the Broncos coaching job? I'm thinking Hass to fullback and Walsh to prop and a $1 million early payout might be worth it? Amazing how well TBaz positions himself for interim head coach gigs ..
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+x+xShould I take the Broncos coaching job? I'm thinking Hass to fullback and Walsh to prop and a $1 million early payout might be worth it? Amazing how well TBaz positions himself for interim head coach gigs .. Was thinking the same thing. Is it no coincidence Hayze Perham signed with them? I reckon they consulted TBaz who advised the board that Hayze would make a very good FB. They then asked Kevvie for his opinion who replied negatively and so they sacked him.
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+x+x+xShould I take the Broncos coaching job? I'm thinking Hass to fullback and Walsh to prop and a $1 million early payout might be worth it? Amazing how well TBaz positions himself for interim head coach gigs .. Was thinking the same thing. Is it no coincidence Hayze Perham signed with them? I reckon they consulted TBaz who advised the board that Hayze would make a very good FB. They then asked Kevvie for his opinion who replied negatively and so they sacked him. A lot of the Dogs 2022 side would be available Averillo at halfback, Duffy at fullback....Okunbor at prop. Just what the Broncos need.
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I wonder who we will be pushing for the fullback spot eventually. Connor Tracey is 28 and as much as I like him it’s only a matter of time before the next big thing comes through for us.
Papalii has been talked about for a long time. He certainly has some talent but he is not destroying them in reserve grade. And dropped back behind Taafe.
We don’t need to spend big yet but we might soon
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+xI wonder who we will be pushing for the fullback spot eventually. Connor Tracey is 28 and as much as I like him it’s only a matter of time before the next big thing comes through for us.
Papalii has been talked about for a long time. He certainly has some talent but he is not destroying them in reserve grade. And dropped back behind Taafe.
We don’t need to spend big yet but we might soon There is a young kid who shouldl be playing junior reps next season who is very good. Wilson has also played a lot of fullback so 3-4 candidates at the club. Next season we should have better props, Karl O will be a contender for lock. If we can create time and space for him Tracey is a skilful fullback. I am think that we can finish top 4 and make a GF qualifier next year. The key is improving our ability to score points when we are on top, so we can ease off in defence at the backend of some games. Also more squad rotation or a bye late in the season, so we are fresh for the semis with fewer injured players. The young fullback is called Glen, the vibe is that we will all get to see how he plays.
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+x+xI wonder who we will be pushing for the fullback spot eventually. Connor Tracey is 28 and as much as I like him it’s only a matter of time before the next big thing comes through for us.
Papalii has been talked about for a long time. He certainly has some talent but he is not destroying them in reserve grade. And dropped back behind Taafe.
We don’t need to spend big yet but we might soon There is a young kid who shouldl be playing junior reps next season who is very good. Wilson has also played a lot of fullback so 3-4 candidates at the club. Next season we should have better props, Karl O will be a contender for lock. If we can create time and space for him Tracey is a skilful fullback. I am think that we can finish top 4 and make a GF qualifier next year. The key is improving our ability to score points when we are on top, so we can ease off in defence at the backend of some games. Also more squad rotation or a bye late in the season, so we are fresh for the semis with fewer injured players. The young fullback is called Glen, the vibe is that we will all get to see how he plays. I have always been a fan of Pappenhuyzen. He was sublime last night and along with Hughes setup the win. His footy snarts are off the charts and they are much needed in this team. If we want to improve and make a fist of our premiership window in the coming years, we need someone like him. Best of all, he is Bulldogs supporter. He'll easily become one of the most favourite players of all time if he was to spend 3 or 4 years here.
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+x+x+xI wonder who we will be pushing for the fullback spot eventually. Connor Tracey is 28 and as much as I like him it’s only a matter of time before the next big thing comes through for us.
Papalii has been talked about for a long time. He certainly has some talent but he is not destroying them in reserve grade. And dropped back behind Taafe.
We don’t need to spend big yet but we might soon There is a young kid who shouldl be playing junior reps next season who is very good. Wilson has also played a lot of fullback so 3-4 candidates at the club. Next season we should have better props, Karl O will be a contender for lock. If we can create time and space for him Tracey is a skilful fullback. I am think that we can finish top 4 and make a GF qualifier next year. The key is improving our ability to score points when we are on top, so we can ease off in defence at the backend of some games. Also more squad rotation or a bye late in the season, so we are fresh for the semis with fewer injured players. The young fullback is called Glen, the vibe is that we will all get to see how he plays. I have always been a fan of Pappenhuyzen. He was sublime last night and along with Hughes setup the win. His footy snarts are off the charts and they are much needed in this team. If we want to improve and make a fist of our premiership window in the coming years, we need someone like him. Best of all, he is Bulldogs supporter. He'll easily become one of the most favourite players of all time if he was to spend 3 or 4 years here. Storm really have their key players firing at the business end of the season. The Roosters have had a lot of success in buying players. Our recent purchases of Burton, Kiks and Critter have been good. But over the years most of our really talented players have been locally developed. A big star like Pappy is such an obvious recruit, often the chances are better with an equally talented young kid who is behind the NRL star at that c,ub. An ex-NRL player doesn't rate Woods but does rate the young fullback I am talking about. There are some good young players playing in the Flegg GF including the halfback. I think our next premiership might have Woods at halfback, Glen at fullback, Karl O at lock and some of the young guys from the Flegg side in the line up. The difference is we already have all of these players in our system, no need to get into a bidding war.
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My I didn't mind losing this year was that I think that many of the players were running close to empty.
Next season I think that we can win games with less effort have more squad rotation.
Top 4 is possible and a GF qualifier.
But I don't expect to make the GF next year, this year we slightly overachieved my expectations, but only because the played gave far more than I though they could and players like Tracey and Mann exceeded my expectations.
From here we should be able to climb one rung every season.
Make the GF in 2026 and win it in 2027
If we do win it in 2027 with a young team then we are in the mix for the next decade and might win a couple more. If it is going to be thst good, I can wait until 2027.
In 2025, if we have Amone, Talley-ho, RCG, Fifita, Sutton, Patolo, Todd, Underhill, King, Curran, Hayes and Hopoi all on deck at the start of the season. I prepared to estimate making the GF in 2025 and winning it in 2026.
That is a lot of depth and quality in the middle the complete opposite to 2024.
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Pathetic how Shark fans dont turn up to games outside shire. Imagine if Doggies playing.
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Some sweet third party agreements with Fox made by some clubs???.. or are Fox terrible at identifying talent???.. only Blocka is a worse commentator than Cronk and Parker...
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+xPathetic how Shark fans dont turn up to games outside shire. Imagine if Doggies playing. The entire community don't go over the bridges... It's not exclusive to the Sharks fans... Who are almost as fair weather as Swans fans...
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Does there come a point this decade where Penrith are penalised for third efforts in the ruck after held is called???...
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+x+xPathetic how Shark fans dont turn up to games outside shire. Imagine if Doggies playing. The entire community don't go over the bridges... It's not exclusive to the Sharks fans... Who are almost as fair weather as Swans fans... Swans losing means that the Roosters will have at least 1,000 fans per game next year, Sharks v Roosters at Acor could be a record low crowd for a semi.
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Storm v Penrith is a reasonable GF, it might be a close game.
Sharks actually improved, but I am not confident that they can take the next step.
I left Hughes out of my list of props.
The point is with plenty of middles Curran, Hayes and Toups can play some second row.
We have good depth in all forwards positions and I think outside backs.
Should we get in the position that the Sharks were in we have more X-Factor in attack and we have the fitness to go set-for-set with the Panthers.
Depending on how Uncle Nick's cheque book performs, the Storm may be the side that we find hard to beat in 2025.
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Flegg GF is live on 9 Now app.
We won 14-12 .
Best Halfback Tia, especially first half. Underhill and centre Afualo who made a lot of yards carrying the ball. Centre Gabriel defended well and shut-down his brother.
Leading 14-0 at half-time and should have lead by more, Sharks second half trys individual brilliance and Dogs making a few errors.
Fair result in the end 3 trys to 2, game management is an issue for young dudes.
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+x+x+xPathetic how Shark fans dont turn up to games outside shire. Imagine if Doggies playing. The entire community don't go over the bridges... It's not exclusive to the Sharks fans... Who are almost as fair weather as Swans fans... Swans losing means that the Roosters will have at least 1,000 fans per game next year, Sharks v Roosters at Acor could be a record low crowd for a semi. Lol. There would be more neutral fans at the game than supporters of each team!!
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+x+x+x+xPathetic how Shark fans dont turn up to games outside shire. Imagine if Doggies playing. The entire community don't go over the bridges... It's not exclusive to the Sharks fans... Who are almost as fair weather as Swans fans... Swans losing means that the Roosters will have at least 1,000 fans per game next year, Sharks v Roosters at Acor could be a record low crowd for a semi. Lol. There would be more neutral fans at the game than supporters of each team!! Neutral fans... possibly the greatest oxymoron since 'responsible government'.... That random bloke in the Souths jersey at every game will outnumber em all...
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+xFlegg GF is live on 9 Now app. We won 14-12 . Best Halfback Tia, especially first half. Underhill and centre Afualo who made a lot of yards carrying the ball. Centre Gabriel defended well and shut-down his brother. Leading 14-0 at half-time and should have lead by more, Sharks second half trys individual brilliance and Dogs making a few errors. Fair result in the end 3 trys to 2, game management is an issue for young dudes. A club on the up...
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+x+x+xPathetic how Shark fans dont turn up to games outside shire. Imagine if Doggies playing. The entire community don't go over the bridges... It's not exclusive to the Sharks fans... Who are almost as fair weather as Swans fans... Swans losing means that the Roosters will have at least 1,000 fans per game next year, Sharks v Roosters at Acor could be a record low crowd for a semi. If theyd played it at shark park they'd have filled the bar... at Northies...
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