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FIFA ‘very satisfied’ with World Cup referees

By Associated Press
Monday, June 21, 2010

PRETORIA, South Africa — FIFA’s head of refereeing says he’s "very, very satisfied" with the performance of World Cup match officials.

Jose-Marcia Garcia-Aranda says some of their decisions "are not good," but he declined to discuss individual controversies like the disallowed goal which could have given the United States a late lead against Slovenia.

He says mistakes are natural for human beings, but the referees’ overall level is very high.

He says FIFA believes referees do not have a duty to explain "every single situation" that happens in a match. Garcia-Aranda says they would be distracted from their job if they had to focus on explaining themselves to the media.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/soccer/general/view/20100621fifa_very_satisfied_with_world_cup_referees/

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FIFA clearly need wide-ranging reform, in that case.
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He can't be watching the same world cup we all are.
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afromanGT wrote:
He can't be watching the same world cup we all are.


I spose things would look quite different without Green and Gold glasses on.
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Funky Munky wrote:
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He can't be watching the same world cup we all are.


I spose things would look quite different without Green and Gold glasses on.


To be fair, there has been the Klose red, Edu no-goal call, Kaka red, Fabiano goal, both goals in NZ-Italy, and a shitload of other terrible and important decisions in games not featuring Australia...
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scouse_roar wrote:
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He can't be watching the same world cup we all are.


I spose things would look quite different without Green and Gold glasses on.


To be fair, there has been the Klose red, Edu no-goal call, Kaka red, Fabiano goal, both goals in NZ-Italy, and a shitload of other terrible and important decisions in games not featuring Australia...

This. But Funky has to blame any observation on the quality of the refs on 'whiney australians'.
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Is Funky a Scotsman?
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TBPH I refuse to blame Fabiano's goal on the referee. Both times he handballed it, it would have been hard for the referee to pick it up especially the second one(Unless he's got x-ray vision. Which would be so fucking awesome:lol: ). None of us would have picked it up in real time and only noticed it until we saw the replay so I can't really blame him there.

That being said there have been some shocking calls. The Kaka one and the Edu no goal have been the worst. The Kaka one is a disgrace and he really should have his ban wiped out.
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scouse_roar wrote:
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afromanGT wrote:
He can't be watching the same world cup we all are.


I spose things would look quite different without Green and Gold glasses on.


To be fair, there has been the Klose red, Edu no-goal call, Kaka red, Fabiano goal, both goals in NZ-Italy, and a shitload of other terrible and important decisions in games not featuring Australia...


I wouldn't call all of those 'terrible decisions'.
Klose's red I didn't see.
The Edu no goal, I'll give you.
Kaka deserved a yellow, Yes the Ivory Coast bloke dived completely, but that doesn't mean Kaka slipped a sly Elbow into his chest.
Didn't see Fabiano's goal.
You coud hardly call the Kiwi goal a terrible decision, it's only through super slow replays that we can barely pick up a touch, bit hard for a linesman. And the penalty was soft, but giveable.

Look, there has been some poor decisions yes. There's always poor decisions in any football match. I think people have been overhyping the umpiring, in part, because of apparent injustice against Australia...
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TBPH I refuse to blame Fabiano's goal on the referee.

He even ASKED Fabiano if he handled it. So there was doubt in his mind. Just not enough for him to call the foul. He really needs to do better than that.
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None of us would have picked it up in real time and only noticed it until we saw the replay so I can't really blame him there.

The referee was 10 meters away, our viewing point was over 50m away.
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Kaka deserved a yellow, Yes the Ivory Coast bloke dived completely, but that doesn't mean Kaka slipped a sly Elbow into his chest.

Kaita ran into him! What the hell do you expect him to do? He'd have been sent sprawling if he didn't do anything. Even as a yellow it's fucking soft.
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Look, there has been some poor decisions yes. There's always poor decisions in any football match. I think people have been overhyping the umpiring, in part, because of apparent injustice against Australia...

You're telling me you know better than the various players on the pitch (including the player who was tackled) in saying that should have been a straight red for Cahill?
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There's been whole games where simple foul calls, throw-in, corner/goalkick calls have been gotten wrong, too. The Serbia-Germany match sticks in my mind for that particularly.
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TBPH I refuse to blame Fabiano's goal on the referee.

He even ASKED Fabiano if he handled it. So there was doubt in his mind. Just not enough for him to call the foul. He really needs to do better than that.


The ref would have had an Ivorian complain to him and the way he was smiling at Fabiano look more like a joking kind of query.



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None of us would have picked it up in real time and only noticed it until we saw the replay so I can't really blame him there.

The referee was 10 meters away, our viewing point was over 50m away.


Doesn't matter if he's 10m away, in real time as a referee that first handball would have been incredibly difficult to pick up and the second one virtually impossible.
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Kaka deserved a yellow, Yes the Ivory Coast bloke dived completely, but that doesn't mean Kaka slipped a sly Elbow into his chest.

Kaita ran into him! What the hell do you expect him to do? He'd have been sent sprawling if he didn't do anything. Even as a yellow it's fucking soft.
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Look, there has been some poor decisions yes. There's always poor decisions in any football match. I think people have been overhyping the umpiring, in part, because of apparent injustice against Australia...

You're telling me you know better than the various players on the pitch (including the player who was tackled) in saying that should have been a straight red for Cahill?


-You can brace yourself without needing to slip the elbow in there. Kaka saw him coming, and knew exactly what he was doing. If Keita hadn't reacted like that, and Kaka had still got the yellow for the elbow, No one would have a problem with it.

-Yes I can see exactly where I said that...oh wait.
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Funky Munky wrote:
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Kaka deserved a yellow, Yes the Ivory Coast bloke dived completely, but that doesn't mean Kaka slipped a sly Elbow into his chest.

Kaita ran into him! What the hell do you expect him to do? He'd have been sent sprawling if he didn't do anything. Even as a yellow it's fucking soft.
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Look, there has been some poor decisions yes. There's always poor decisions in any football match. I think people have been overhyping the umpiring, in part, because of apparent injustice against Australia...

You're telling me you know better than the various players on the pitch (including the player who was tackled) in saying that should have been a straight red for Cahill?


-You can brace yourself without needing to slip the elbow in there. Kaka saw him coming, and knew exactly what he was doing. If Keita hadn't reacted like that, and Kaka had still got the yellow for the elbow, No one would have a problem with it.

-Yes I can see exactly where I said that...oh wait.

If Keita hadn't reacted like that, Kaka wouldn't have been booked. Keita should have also been booked for charging Kaka.

Well make up your mind then, was it an injustice to send Cahill off or not?
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-Possibly. Doesn't make what Kaka did any less worthy of yellow.

-Cahill's tackle was a yellow, and a soft red, but certainly not as big as people have made it. Kewell's was fair.
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Funky Munky wrote:
-You can brace yourself without needing to slip the elbow in there. Kaka saw him coming, and knew exactly what he was doing. If Keita hadn't reacted like that, and Kaka had still got the yellow for the elbow, No one would have a problem with it.

Can't agree with you there. It looks to me like that's exactly how anyone braces themself. It looks like Keita's lower face hits Kaka's shoulder (leading to the theatrics), indicating that Kaka's elbow was pretty much tucked in close to his body. Keita doesn't hold his chest or stomach, which was roughly where Kaka's elbow was.
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road warrior wrote:
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-You can brace yourself without needing to slip the elbow in there. Kaka saw him coming, and knew exactly what he was doing. If Keita hadn't reacted like that, and Kaka had still got the yellow for the elbow, No one would have a problem with it.

Can't agree with you there. It looks to me like that's exactly how anyone braces themself. It looks like Keita's lower face hits Kaka's shoulder (leading to the theatrics), indicating that Kaka's elbow was pretty much tucked in close to his body. Keita doesn't hold his chest or stomach, which was roughly where Kaka's elbow was.


Yeah, he braces normally, but he does shove his elbow back. Keita doesn't grab his chest or stomach coz he was play acting for the free.
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Yeah, he braces normally, but he does shove his elbow back. Keita doesn't grab his chest or stomach coz he was play acting for the free.

If I elbow you in the stomach, you're going to go down clutching your stomach, winded. Cut the bollocks.
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-Cahill's tackle was a yellow, and a soft red, but certainly not as big as people have made it. Kewell's was fair.

I've never seen that given as a red before. Probably won't again for a long time.
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Yeah, he braces normally, but he does shove his elbow back. Keita doesn't grab his chest or stomach coz he was play acting for the free.

If I elbow you in the stomach, you're going to go down clutching your stomach, winded. Cut the bollocks.


He caught him higher up, in the sternum. He obviously didn't catch him hard, but it's enough for a yellow for Unsporting Conduct. And yeah, in other circumstances I would, but if I was doing what Keita was trying to do, I'd go down clutching at my face too.
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If anything's unsporting conduct, it's Keita running over and charging into Kaka. If Keita was hurt he'd have got waht he deserved, but there was no reason to send Kaka off.

And after Behrami was sent off tonight for bullshit, FIFA can't seriously say the refereeing has been at an adequate standard.
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Doesn't matter what Keita deserved. Kaka elbowed him, deserved a yellow, and got said yellow.


I didn't realise they'd allowed players to flail at other players heads now a days...
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lol another ridiculous red against switzerland, gg refs.
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The other probably more important issue with Kaka is how the referee came to his decision. I don't know for sure, but I it's been reported that the ref didn't see it, and he didn't talk to any of the assistants. It's also been reported in the Edu incident, the ref didn't say who the foul was against.

I can accept difference in opinion of severity (ie Cahill), or something the ref can't see (ie Smeltz offside), but the Kaka incident and the Edu disallowed goal have me perplexed about what the refs were thinking and I think need an explanation from FIFA, or an investigation. Keita really should be suspended in my opinion.
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I wasn't aware that a player going to ground without having actually made contact constituted a foul, Funky. It's getting so taht defenders can't protect the ball, or themselves.

FIFA owes us an explanation for the Kaka red, Edu's goal, Behrami's sending off and why Keita wasn't sent packing as well.
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There have been some terrible decision at the World Cup, a big contributor to this is the cheating of other players.

Kaka's red card was a disgrace. He is a past World Player of the year & one of the fairest & non violent players in the top leagues at the moment. His suspension must be rescinded by FIFA before the next game. The player who ran into him should be suspended for the next game. If it was a car crash, the cops would have given the ticket to him as he ran into a stationary object, then cheated & acted it up shamefully.


FIFA must bring in a video analysis post match to identify any violent or cheating conduct that has gone undetected or unpunished by the ref.
Those players guilty of the above need to be suspended by FIFA for at least the next game or more.
This will reduce players cheating which is a blight on the game.

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I wasn't aware that a player going to ground without having actually made contact constituted a foul, Funky. It's getting so taht defenders can't protect the ball, or themselves.

FIFA owes us an explanation for the Kaka red, Edu's goal, Behrami's sending off and why Keita wasn't sent packing as well.


Behrami made contact with his face(lightly) and his neck.


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road warrior wrote:
It's also been reported in the Edu incident, the ref didn't say who the foul was against.


So. When the ref gives the foul there's nothing that says he must say who the foul was against.

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Behrami red was a red, play-acting from the Chileans doesn't disguise that fact.
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Funky Munky wrote:
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I wasn't aware that a player going to ground without having actually made contact constituted a foul, Funky. It's getting so taht defenders can't protect the ball, or themselves.

FIFA owes us an explanation for the Kaka red, Edu's goal, Behrami's sending off and why Keita wasn't sent packing as well.


Behrami made contact with his face(lightly) and his neck.


The only time Behrami made contact with him was when Behrami stopped running and Vidal headbutted his shoulder. Watch the replay again.
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So. When the ref gives the foul there's nothing that says he must say who the foul was against.

The crux of this presentation is that WE don't knwo who the foul was against, YOU don't know who the foul was against, None of the PLAYERS know who the foul was against, and not even the REFEREE knows who the foul was against.
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