besides those title you such a wanker COYS. Do you know how hard it is to win the French league? every team is techincally good. Verbeek had no success ever and he goes us to the WC be it playing boring football but he did.

you've once again shown you have no knowledge of football in europe

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Everyone knows, unless you win the Swedish national league with Shaktar Donetsk, then you are a failure as a manager :oops: :oops: :oops:

Here's the best way to descibe Le Guen from 2 friends of mine - 1 a Rangers supporter, and the other who follows Ligue 1.

"Clueless"

"Extremely lucky"

As you were Davstar :idea:

Maybe we can get a j-league coach to coach us and show europeans how to play football since its such a good league? yet the most coaches in the J-league are from europe...


You have no clue and if u did you would no there is no such thing as luck in football, good managed make their own luck.



Edited by Davstar: 22/6/2010 10:40:04 AM

Why would we hire a coach from the J.League?:-k

I'll keep campaigning for Johan Neeskens until I turn blue:lol:

He's Dutch(a big plus for the FFA). Will know a fair chunk of the Australian team pretty well after having worked with Hiddink. Workded under Rijkaard at Barcelona and was reportedly the mastermind behind their great Champions League winning team of 2006.

They guy definitely has the ability just has to be given the chance to make the step up.

According to your 'expert' opion J-league is such a good league thats why....

You have no idea about football sorry mate

Edited by Davstar: 22/6/2010 10:44:08 AM

Whoaaa Einstein, compared to our A-League it definitely is a "good league."

But the fact that you've now changed the subject shows you really have nothing left to say - case and point - Le Guen failed at Rangers, PSG and now at Cameroon. He's garnered poor opinion from Pundits and fans alike for the last 5 years and compared to the other candidates, he's one of the worst.

Stop blabbering rubbish, no one on this forum will ever forget the day you pointed out to all of us that Shaktar Donetsk had won the Swedish League. So for you to question someone else's knowledge on European football is quite comical kiddo.

Never said the A-league was a 'good league' i said it has potential to be a better league then J-league league and any league in asia i still believe that today. Mainly because we living in a English speaking nation that is western and players would rather prefer to play here then say China which is over populated. You changed the subject if you remember LMAO, go back to your job flipping Big Macs you have to be good at something?

The fact that you bring up conversations from 4 months backs proves you have no idea. This guy is the best candidate we have had to date, i never cared for opions of the media and wanna be experts like your self. Camaroon is overated, he might not be the best manager for the Socceroos position but he clearly is the best applicant we have to date, if you cant see that then you have no clue.



Edited by Davstar: 22/6/2010 11:00:02 AM

Applicant? Where in the article does it say he applied? The only thing we know is that Lowy has agreed a deal with a manager at the world cup that is currently uncontracted which brought up a shortlist of about 8 managers.

Nowhere does it say Le Guen was officially offered the job you plank, he has only been touted as a forerunner you moron.

If we were to deem all of those 8 managers as "applicants" then Le Guen would easily be one of the worst out of those 8.

Dribble dribble drible :oops:

Neill had to google Verbeek
By Tom Wald
December 07, 2007 DON"T know much about Pim Verbeek? Don't worry, neither does Lucas Neill.

The Australia skipper had to google the new Socceroos coach to have a look at his credentials after hearing he had landed the gig to guide Australia through the 2010 World Cup qualifiers.

"I only know him from googling,'' Neill told Sydney radio station 2KY.

"I know stories from the time we were together during the World Cup when (coach) Guus (Hiddink) spoke of him and he spoke highly of him.

"He is experienced in Asia and he got South Korea third in the Asia Cup and let's face it we failed (at the Asia Cup).

"What he is going to bring is an experience in Asia and how to win games in Asia.

"When we get to the World Cup it is a world thing but at the moment we just have to focus on getting through Asia and maybe he is the best man for the job in Asia.''

Neill said he was surprised by the appointment, which has come just weeks after Dick Advocaat reneged on a deal with Football Federation Australia to lead the Socceroos.

"Truthfully it surprised me, it surprised me the fact that we were bandying about Jurgen Klinsmann, Gerard Houllier and Pim Verbeek never came into the equation,'' said Neill.

"Obviously Philippe Troussier is a lot higher-profile I suppose, a better resume and came in (as) one of the strong guys in the running.

"When it was announced last night and I got the message it was like not a bad surprise, oh we have got him.''

Verbeek was Guus Hiddink's assistant for South Korea at the 2002 World Cup when the Asian team made a surprise semi-final appearance.

The 51-year-old held the reins as Korea Republic made the semi-finals of this year's Asian Cup as Australia crashed out to Japan at the quarter-final stage.

FFA chairman Frank Lowy felt taking on another Dutch coach was the way to go following the success of Hiddink at the 2006 World Cup.

"I am told this is the right way for us - we have a lot in common with the Dutch psyche, the physique - the Dutch system suits us well,'' said Lowy.

"Once we adopt that system, we are better off to continue. This is somehow fate to deliver us on this road, and maybe it will be very good for us.''

Australia have been handed a tough qualifying group for the World Cup that includes Iraq, China and Qatar.

AAP
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,22886509-23215,00.html

why would be we restrict ourselves to coaches with asian experience? our qualifying route isnt that hard...

I dont think Rajevac would want to coach the Socceroos anyway the guy is ambitious and coaching the Socceroos for him would be a let down. Hes done wonders with Ghana.

Listen to the players. They have all said they qualifying through Asia throws up different challenges to other confederations. The travel, the numerous time zones, the numerous wether condidtions. Pim may have been negative in his tactics, but he knew the challenges of Asian qualifying.
We may not need someone with previous Asian experience, but at least an understanding of these challenges is very important.
And our qualifying for the next WC may be a very different path. Look at the asian teams that did not qualify this time around. Iran, Saudi Arabia, UAE, China, all VERY tough places to go and get points.

Le Guen (Cameroon), Lars Lagerback (Nigeria), Otto Rehhagel (Greece), Raymond Domenech (France), Sven-Goran Eriksson (Cote d’Ivoire), Joachim Low (Germany), Marcelo Bielsa (Chile), Milovan Rajevac (Ghana), Javier Aguirre (Mexico)

These are the only managers eligible. So you're little pipe dream is nothing but a pipe dream.

Aguirre, Biesla, Low, Eriksson, Rehhagel all have better CV's than this walking accident of a manager and have won things and have had relative success in multiple countries. Even Largeback was able to qualify Sweden to 5 international competitions in 9 years. Rajevac is the only person on that shortlist that has less experience than De Guen and not even the FFA would be dumb enough to consider him in any case

besides "those titles" you're such a wanker COYS. Do you know how hard it is to win the French league? every team is techincally good and well balanced to win it multi-times is no fluke in retrospect he has a CV simlar to Guus had at the time. Verbeek had no success ever and he got us to the WC be it playing boring football but he did.

you've once again shown you have no knowledge of football in europe

Jog on.

A fucking monkey could have won those league titles with Lyon. They won like 7 or 8 in a row. The fact that Le Guen won 3 of those is no big deal. You say it's no fluke to win it multiple times. Lyon won it 7 times in a row FFS.

If he had won 3 titles in a row at any other major league in Europe ok that would be better but 3 league title in the era were Lyon were so good it was unfair is nothing to jump for joy about.